OldTimer1960

Please not Franklin unless it’s late round 2.

I don’t really have a guess other than that they didn’t really like the WRs as much as the general consensus does. I think if they liked Mitchell they would have picked him already. I would take McConkey here, but I have a sinking feeling that they are going to take Franklin.

Top of 5th round pick for 1 spot down. Is that 4 5th round picks now?

Bills out

Wow

I can believe that and would kind of like that, depending how far down they would go.

There will be a trade up or two in coming rounds.

That lit the fuse here on the board. Wait until we see who they take at 32

Really no idea what they will do. Trade down?

People should watch a bit of him. Phenomenal speed and quickness, but raw. He did create a lot of disruption against some top level opponents including Ohio State and Michigan. There is some risk with him, but he is an exceptional athlete for a DE.

Awesome job Gunner! Do you see the diabetes or concerns about effort/coachability as the reason AD Mitchell isn’t in round 1?

Agree, but what I was trying to say even without regard to salary cap ramifications is: can you find any proven WR in the league that you would pay two firsts and two seconds for? I don’t think there is any 1 receiver that turns this roster into a Super Bowl winner if you trade all of those picks away that could otherwise be used to help the remainder of the team.

I am aligned with that, I just don’t think it’s smart to trade next year’s 1 to move up this year. I am fine if they pick almost all offense if those are better players in each round than any defenders available there.

If you could trade for any receiver in the league now, would you trade what it takes to get Odunze or higher?

I understand the sarcasm, but it isn’t rational to say “they had a good defense and fell just short, so defense doesn’t matter “. I would note that the two Super Bowl teams had outstanding defenses and the winner didn’t exactly have the best group of receivers.

I’m talking about not trading two 1st plus for 1 WR. I don’t disagree that receivers have become more important, but I still don’t agree that defense doesn’t matter - especially pass rush and DBs

And Hill is 20lbs heavier than Worthy and 2 inches shorter.

Disagree - they have been good enough to win, they just didn’t. It is very hard to win 3-4 playoff games in a row and sometimes it’s very little things that are the difference. Even if you’re right, how are they going to win with 1 hotshot WR and a crumbling D? I just don’t think 1 WR is going to make that difference and the cost to trade for one will hamstring any hope to address other holes. Further, if all it took was a great WR, then Miami would be SB champ and SF would have beaten KC last year.

But not all that much cap space.

For several years if they trade future picks.

I think Worthy’s floor is as a dangerous deep threat and someone who you can scheme touches for. I don’t know that he is ever going to be a high volume receiver. His ceiling is moderately high constrained mostly by his size and durability concerns. At one time I was against Worthy in the first, but I think he is as good as the other receivers likely to be there around 28.

I would not give up that much for the 165lb Worthy and I guess OK for Thomas Jr, but none of these guys are sure things.

I’m getting the feeling that Franklin could be around near pick 60. Daniel Jeremiah seems to have some connections to teams and in his last top 150 he has Moved Franklin way down to 76. I know that doesn’t make him right, but he had him a lot higher before - it seems like he got some intel that teams were less enamored with him.

That’s what they need, but I don’t see a prospects that is in reasonable trade range that is a guaranteed playoff dominator.

I think Baker will very likely be available at 60.