NoSaint

we all agree to terms, it’s the 2025 pick and we wait until June 1 for paperwork? also gives some runway for other cap maneuvering

we all agree to terms, it’s the 2025 pick and we wait until June 1 for paperwork?

the redundancy being that they are pretty flexible as opposed to one trick ponies doing the same thing does help though

At which position?!?

im not racing to trade for deebo but swap 2s and draft Polk or similar late in the round is a path to getting back to 4 viable wrs samuel-samuel-kincaid-cook with Knox/Shakir would give Brady a ton to play with

none of those top ten picks 6 weeks after joining the team that’s a 2026 play

or much more reasonably you could just trade him to another suitor as clearly the chiefs thought someone wanted him before they could get him

Yea but that’s just a player evaluation difference and those happen if we like Mitchell more and flip flopped, so be it, right? Conceptually it’s not catastrophic unless you are really into the option year if we decide to go defense and wait til 60 for WR I’m right there with you

if the narrative becomes the bills built the chiefs core it’s bad for beane, bad for the locker room, bad for league wide perception if leggette becomes moss it sucks but life happens if the bills traded the chiefs a hall of fame qb and a pro bowl wr to continue their dynasty - that’s a catastrophe

Ultimately trading back is fine it’s just 1) what do we do now drastically impacts the evaluation of whether the strategy was smart 2) like it or not, if worthy blossoms it could really tattoo this regime/era in a different way than the Carolina trade which was also for a wr. The risk/reward equation is wildly different on a human psych level based on it being the chiefs taking a guy at a position of need for us to use against us in the biggest moments

this year it may be both, unless you are putting a lot of weight on Josh early in the season It is a challenging crossroads

he’s saying they likely have 2-3 similar ranked guys and not someone head and shoulders above that they wouldn’t want to risk losing some of you act like a trade up is just a button you push and not a human negotiation though

no I’m not assuming he is but if he does become an impact player there’s a pretty hefty weight added now

history shows the misses become far more frequent the deeper you go and you are certainly overstating situation if we get our guy at 33 I’m decent. If we go defense then wait til 60 for WR I’m not in on that plan

someone more jaded might point out those were late second rounders in the mid 50s and we are edging towards jumping in that very challenging pool

i think loosely my stance. My posts this morning are skewing towards certain topics but globally this is about where I sit.

it would be catastrophic for the teams psyche if it happens imagine if we get dejean and he dials it up on him!

can you imagine if reporters start asking Josh if he had worthy down the line if the dudes playing well he could tank and beane could get a better player tonight but it’s a HELL of a risk compared to almost any other trade partner

While I don’t agree with the last sentence… it’s an all time risky trade. if worthy pans out that we gave them mahomes and worthy is a blistering narrative - the type of which will be repeated a million times and define this era if Josh gets hurt playing hero ball it really becomes something. Hopefully we land a couple pieces and feel better fast. I have to assume they have like 3 guys graded similarly and are all good sliding til 1-2 get picked and I like that philosophy but if we are tied to kc getting a star it becomes not a little flub but something that changes this groups identity and that won’t be worth the picks to try to overcome

you say this but apparently the chiefs thought there was risk

Yea, if worthy ends up a star it’s going to be an all time historic blunder to keep feeding Kansas City key pieces at our own needs

I would hope he could get a better deal than the Carolina trade

If he accepts it immediately? If not for his ego? He’s on a 45m a year paycheck with huge guarantees. It’s not ego to say he’s not waking up as Ryan Fitzpatrick today. he will play this out and retire with a quarter billion dollars

also I think a flyer on toney is a completely different conversation

I don’t think that is the message