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Banged up Bob says Ed looked his gif horse in the mouth and got a sole clap for his insolence.

It might take him that long to get into football shape. He looked like a bowl of mashed potatoes at his PC a couple weeks ago.

Yeah they were.....until the last few drives. And I agree the Bernard extension was dumb. Made no sense. This is not a guy who is likely to start in the NFL for the length of his extension even.......he is almost inevitably going to get hurt enough times from bouncing around in that traffic and then the nose for the ball won't matter because he will become physically limited, IMO. Even if he repeated his historic splash play season from a couple years ago not many teams were going to sign up for a MLB that size with a history of being too banged up late in the season. The Bills weren't going to have to pay him more than they did, IMO so Beane just took a bad risk there like he did when he foolishly extended Eric Wood for 2018 back in summer of 2017 when there was basically ZERO chance he would leave Buffalo for numerous reasons..........and then ended up eating $10M when he failed a physical in January.

Yeah, that was him. Fina was one of those guys who gave off the impression he really didn't like football and did not appreciate the fans one bit. Surprising how many of those guys get out of the league and then decide they want to become analysts and podcasters talking about the game they didn't enjoy for the people they didn't like.

It's crazy that they gave the disinterested Star Lotulelei a 5 year $50M contract to protect the DE-sized Edmunds but are trying to get by with smaller 1 techs with the narrow shouldered, safety-sized Bernard. I greatly prefer what he brings to what Edmunds brought because turnovers and splash plays are so important in the game now. With Poyer and Hyde gone he is really their only guy with a nose for the ball. And LONG gone are the days when the Steelers and Rams met in a SB while being 1-2 in turnovers lost. Those possessions are so critical now. And it's always going to be hard to get him thru a potential 20 game season intact if he isn't clean.

Yeah I was going to edit my post to include that. John Fina said it as well. That may be the case but John Fina in particular was one of the greatest "wasn't my fault" players in Bills history so I'm not inclined to trust his opinions on assignments.

They've been doing these for many years now.

In Houston. Coming off a season where he had more sacks, more tackles and more TFL than Ed Oliver.

Well they played very little football this summer because McBeane were trying to get to opening day healthy. And that's what it looks like when a talented, vengeance-fueled opponent brings it to a team that isn't anywhere near physically prepared for that level of intensity. But late in the game they both came up with big plays recovering a fumble and stopping Zay Flowers for no gain. Unfortunately, the Bills have been the primary offseason fixation of their next two vengeful opponents as well. They don't have the luxury of easing into their schedule. That's why they were playing football at practice yesterday instead of the usual.

I am in the middle on this argument. I think @HappyDays is right that they need a dominant 1 tech if they want to play base nickel with 2 less-than-physical LB's. It was different when they had 250# 1st round pick Tremaine Edmunds, having to sacrifice pass rush to protect that no-play-making SOB was a ridiculous state of affairs. Bernard NEEDS protection. That MF'er is a turnover magnet and you need those kind of players opposite a high powered offense. Bernard also might be their best pass rusher(aside from Ed if he plays like this) and you can't use Bernard on the blitz if you can't control the middle of the LOS. And I do somewhat excuse the LB's and safeties some for being in preseason form because they basically didn't play behind this line in game action until Sunday and the Ravens clearly put a lot of thought into this game plan. The Bills were reacting. Whatever they might have drawn up they weren't able to get to it because Monken beat them to the punch. That said, the huge, untouched run gains by the Ravens weren't appreciably different than getting gashed by a few huge pass plays. So by late in the game the Bills defense was still fresh. Even Ed Oliver only played 35 snaps and it seemed like he was not coming off the field in the second half.

He may be finally reaching his potential. He's been better in his career than some give him credit for but his potential has always been to be a poor man's Aaron Donald. He's never been that. Even in those two big Thanksgiving games he had you couldn't say he was the difference in the game. Sunday night he was. They were hanging on for dear life defensively and those TFL's, the sack and the forced fumble made it just possible for the offense work the body on the Ravens and then turn the tables in the 4th. If that becomes an every week thing he could become that difference maker they've lacked and really elevate the Bills roster a notch. I'm not holding my breath on that until he strings a long stretch of great play together and manages to stay healthy......but I think we are seeing some players reach the intersection of know how and can do. Even Josh Allen looks significantly more in command of the game than a year ago this time.

Basically the Bills offense just exhausted the Ravens defense with small gains and clock control and by the 4th quarter it became exponentially easier for the Bills WR's to get open. IMO the Bills WR corps is still the weakest part of the team. If the offense can roll up nearly 80 offensive plays and 35-40 minutes time of possession every week like they just did against the Ravens the WR have the potential to look a lot better in those last 20 or so plays. I mean, give me the front 7 equivalent to the dominant impact that Josh Allen has for these receivers and Taylor Rapp, Cole Bishop and Damar Hamlin would look like world beaters. They are closer to the norm than the WR corps. That said.....I am bullish on Keon. I've said all along that he has the physical talent to reach Davante Adams level. He went into the offseason needing to show the focus, work ethic and want-to to be great. He seems to be doing that. The next and most important step is exhibiting the intelligence to become a great technician so he doesn't have to be schemed open against quicker/faster CB's. That's the hardest part. And when you have a truly great QB like Coleman has with Allen.........like Adams had with Rodgers.........that can create a ton of momentum. He should be able to see that the full commitment should yield maximum results.

The kicking team was ready after the first timeout. They were all gathered along the sideline ready to go on. Didn't help Deone Walker much as he blew his blocking assignment on the kick.......but they were ready. I would think he won't be on that team next week after giving Hamilton a free run at that kick.

I have nothing against stay-at-home-fans like yourself but like McDermott says.........know your role. You have no business talking sh!t about the fans who pay the Bills while you are farting into your couch in California on game days. Lead, follow or shaddup.

Just in general, you should learn to say less about fans. Complaining about the people who have made it possible for Buffalo to have Bills seems to be a habit with you.

I am the 1% of 1% of Bills fans who participate in the game..........I literally never take a play off from making as much noise as I can when the Bills are on defense or in a kick block situation...........but I disagree wholeheartedly with your take. The reality is that it's a long season and some people already had to take off work at least part of next Thursday and Friday for the Dolphins night game. The defense was making business decisions most of the night so you can't expect anything different from the fans who have responsibilities to be mindful of. It's not news that the group of hardcore fans......those who do whatever it takes to be there and support the team.......would fill less than half of the stadium. It's unlikely that any NFL fan base has anymore than that. And if you know enough, the stadium is plenty loud when it's just the die-hards left. Most of the people who left don't make any noise anyway.

Yep, he 100% tapped out on the 2024 season when he decided the toe sprain was going to be too much for him to play with in 2024 and possibly all the way until recently. I didn't say he "quit". That's where you've lied again. Just like you probably lied about knowing he was a standout in camp last year. Saying he just quit implies that no compelling reason was given as to why he couldn't continue. He offered a compelling reason. But he still tapped out. The question is if anyone in the NFL believes anything he says and if any of it is even worth answering his phone call after what he's BEEN. A non-factor for the last 3 years. You think teams should believe in him and give him a 4th chance or whatever he's on. You also believed him when he said he had a good camp......which wasn't true. I guess we could debate the definition of gullible next.

Josh Allen is the most O-Line friendly QB in the league. Even Mahomes and Lamar leave their O-lines more exposed to negative statistical outcomes. The Bills have very good tackles.......average-ish guards.......and a solid center. No elite performers. Allen, a commitment to the run game and the frequent use of a 6th OL make them perform at an elite level though.

Show me where I said Claypool quit on the Bills? He missed the entire season with an injury they called day-to-day until they abruptly IR'd him. You've misremembered something again and this time you could have just referenced it directly from this thread. He quit on the Bears. https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/chase-claypool-reveals-the-stupid-reason-he-basically-quit-in-chicago/ He was a malcontent "at best" in Pittsburgh. It got much worse in Chicago. And he then ended the Dolphins season with what sure looked like a no-f#cks given effort as @GunnerBill mentioned. This dude's career went south in the aftermath of that Steelers loss in Minnesota on November 27, 2021. That was a LONG time ago.

Oh so you are going to avoid your false claim that he was having an "outstanding camp"? 😂 OTA's. 😂

A lot of people have responded to this thread not reading the part where Barnwell explained that he adds more weight to the WR position than others. Which is how it should be. Of these 3 skill positions WR's are more able to impact the game individually. That's why they are the only one's who get paid premium level pay. And even then it's really just the boundary receivers who get that money.

As with MOST player criticism, the criticism is ultimately directed at the people who selected or paid or kept playing that player when they failed etc.. He was a reach for need. Day 3 talent but they needed a body at NT so Nix very carelessly used a borderline premium pick on him. Even though the pick of an under-sized NT was likely to look incredibly stupid regardless in an NFL landscape where good NT's were signing 1 year $4M type FA deals. Unburdened by the need to be proven right, the Bills then spoke in hushed tones about how good he would have been. He became a mythical beast. Hence, the nickname associated with the draft pick.

What reality is that? He was literally injured early in the first morning practice of camp. He missed the rest of the day. The toe injury "reportedly" happened just a few practices later, though it likely is what happened in that first practice. He didn't have an outstanding camp. He was on the sideline nursing an injury the team listed as "day to day" for 3 weeks then he got IR'd on August 16.

Injuries most definitely aren't why he went from being dealt for a high second round pick in 2022 to being a street free agent reaching for a life-line in the span of about 15 months. Very little injury in his NFL history really. He was a head-case in 2022 but should have lost any benefit of the doubt when he ghosted the Bears in-season in 2023. That was crazy. Typically only see something like that when a player is about to appear in a string of arrest/lawsuit stories. The Dolphins gave him another shot and he just went thru the motions. Only months later the Bills pick him up and fans expect him to be someone entirely different.

Again, the big issue with Dalton Kincaid was just that he was HORRENDOUS in the playoffs. Yeah he hasn't played up to expectations but his regular season play was pretty innocuous. They barely needed him in the regular season. I keep hearing the sob stories about his knee injuries.......well he must have been playing with two sprained hands in the playoffs because the issue wasn't his running it was that he couldn't catch the damn ball.