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I agree and with the Giants holding the #2 pick he could do exactly that. I'm wishy-washy on kids going back to school when they have a 2nd or 3rd round grade. This is different, he will be picked in the top 5 and likely top 2. There isn't much improvement to be done on his stock so imo he should come out. He will be one of the top 2 picks. Why not develop AND get paid? There is way more risk than benefit imo for him to return. The college game is so different from the pros I think he might develop better under a pro teams watch, add in a lost year of earnings for an already too short career, and a year with a "good franchise" holding the 2 pick and the stars have aligned for him. I don't personally care for his game and don't see what others do but I'm also not a professional scout. Big market, big money, get to sit behind Eli for a year, get paid to improve your skills. Perfect scenario for him and he'd be dumb imo to return.

I'm pumped. Problem is everyone is looking at the off-season already. Nobody is used to being alive week 17 so nobody knows how to act lol. I'd love to be talking about how excited I am but lately there are too many cheerio pissers here to do so. Luckily non-bills fan friends (especially giants fans) are pumped too so I've had a lot fun talking with people this week. Go Bills! Squish the fish! Let's get over the hump today!

It's gonna be a great day today I can feel it. Let's go Bills!

I give you credit for actually answering. (serious no sarcasm) I take issue with Flacco (worse than TT since 15), Dalton (worse that TT since 2015), Palmer (old), Cutler, Brissett (what? please explain), Bradford (can't stay healthy), Mariota (bad this year), Bridgewater (TT light coming off of major injury another I'd like you to tell me why), Eli (it's all over for him) So that puts him around 20th for me give or take. Same place he was at the beginning of the year. I appreciate the discussion. I'd be happy to debate the guys I've listed here so give it a shot. How are the guys I listed better than Tyrod? In what ways? Is there anything he is better at than them in your opinion?

Immediately thought the same thing. Please Gettleman do us a solid for your boys!

^^^will figure out how to get his seizure inducing avatar back

I feel fine. You stated that "It's not like we in a world where QB's double that in a season." Extremely rarely that it does happen. In fact I just looked it up and there are only 12 seasons EVER where qbs have passed for 40 or more. That wasn't even your original post it was double 21 or 22. There have been 8 such seasons in the history of the NFL. Your post made it try to seem like it happens all the time. Like I said use facts and people won't have issue with your takes. Exaggerate and you will be corrected. Got it little buddy? (I keed)

This is exactly the strategy I hope they employ. Keep Tyrod and hopefully the young guy beats him out. There is no need to be worse at the position. Keep Tyrod and try to get better at the position. Then you know what the floor is. Luck had 40 half of that is 20... Weird that you skipped 2015. Oh wait nobody got higher than Brady's 36 How about 2016? Oh Rodgers led the league at 40? How about in 2017? Anyone? No? hmm so in the last 3 years NOBODY has doubled 21 or 22. Prior to that 5 guys have done it in the last 6 years. We aren't asking you to change your opinion on Tyrod. We are asking you to use facts in your argument and not your overemotional overreactions. That's all. You can think Tyrod isn't the answer and you can think the teams needs to improve at the spot. You can't call him the 30-35th best qb when no numbers back that up. You can't call him a backup at best when there aren't 32 better players than him at the position. Brian freaking Hoyer was a week 1 starter this year!

I want to join in on this. I know I shouldn't but I can't help it. 21 or 22 tds or less in a season in 2016: (Tyrod had 23) Cam Newton Carson Wentz Alex SMith Joe Flacco Andy Dalton Russel Wilson in 2015: (Tyrod had 24) Jameis Winston Matt Ryan Big Ben Alex Smith Marcus Mariota Tyrod is a middle of the road of the road starter. As much as you and others want to mock him that is what he is. The names i listed above are just the big names that Tyrod (gasp) finished better than in regards to tds. People are invested in the Bills emotionally so they judge Tyrod much harsher than other qbs. Mariota was very average to even sub par this year. Tyrod in his worst year as a starter outperformed him in passing tds, ints, and qb rating. Be honest did you know that before I posted or is Mariota a franchise qb in your opinion? The Bills should use their capital to try and upgrade the team at every spot including at QB. However they shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water. Tyrod is looked at around the league as a guy you can win with. Not a guy you win because of but there are only a handful of guys in the league that are like that. I get wanting a superstar at qb and want the same. Tyrod has done very well with the cards dealt to him. His # 1wr was traded in training camp, his #1 te was hurt for a good chunk of the year, there is no #2 rb. Prior to this year he led a very successful offense that scored a lot of points. He has a winning record in Buffalo. He isn't some savior and nobody in the "cot" thinks he is. He also isn't "the 30-35th best qb in the league." That's an asinine statement but I'll give you and others a shot. Name 29 better qbs than Tyrod. I'll wait...

^^^will finally file his formal request for Orton to be on the wall.

agree with teef. It depends if you are looking for a console specific game. There are only a few of those left anymore though. I own a ps4 because I owned a ps3 because I owned a ps2 because I owned a ps. If you are a hardcore gamer you might notice a difference. If you are not it really won't matter much. I started with Playstation because online gaming was free. That isn't the case anymore so there is even less of a distinction between systems. Video games for me are a social thing so most of my friends also own ps4s. Just put in a 3 hour cod session last night . Might not seem like much but that is the most I have played consecutively in a few years. Used to play all night!

Nicely put OP. I was hopeful before the Patriots game and I remain hopeful. Playoffs is on the table going into the last game of the season. How the !@#$ can you NOT be excited?!?!?! Save me the doom and gloom bull ****. Being a "realist" doesn't make you a smarter fan, being optimistic doesn't make us a better fan. I just know how I choose to view life and something as meaningless as sports fandom. I'm revved up for the most meaningful day of football in I can't remember ho long! Go Bills! Squish the Fish! Go Bengals! Let's go to the mother!@#$ing playoffs!

Just finding this but I too started on 12/4. No diagnoses just some necessary life changes. 5'9 and 225 is way more than I want to be carrying lol. No major changes on the food but I have made it a point to avoid fast food. Every morning is a smoothie with assorted fruits and veggies, morning and afternoon snack (trail mix am then almonds pm), lunch and dinner follow proper portion sizes. Lost 7 pounds before the holidays still down 4 which obviously isn't great but now that the food-centric holidays are behind us I'm back on track. How's your progress?

He even covered his mouth while saying it trying to be discreet! Where does this type of feed come from? It would be interesting to watch games after the fact with this.

You can buy skins for the system fairly cheap if the green is too much. So BBF has the xbox locked down. I'm a ps4 player if anyone wants to play send me a pm. I usually play on Friday or Saturday but can cram a day or 2 in during the week after 9 pm.

It will be interesting to see what his injuries do to his price tag. I can see a 1 year deal again with Buffalo more than we want less than he wants to prove he can stay healthy.

Yup. As soon as they started looking at it we all knew it was getting overturned.

When you graduated college did you get to pick where you worked? Also Eli kick started this trend? It happened with him almost 15 years ago and not since. Before that it was 83 and Elway. Would you prefer to go to Cleveland or NYC? Would you prefer to be part of a franchise that won 4 super bowls or arguably the worst run franchise in the league? The difference between being the NYG QB and the Browns QB could be many many millions in endorsements setting up his family even better for future generations. I won't argue against the draft process because I understand the need for it. I just won't crush kids for not wanting to put themselves in poor situations. Be honest with yourself. Would you prefer to go #1 to Cleveland or #2 to the Giants if you were in the draft? Is there anyone who would pick Cleveland?

I am in the boat with you but it is exactly why the league doesn't care. If we aren't willing to vote with our eyeballs and our dollars they will continue to operate the same as they have been.

99% probability if we win both games is a legitimate shot in my book.

I bought it after skipping last year but I'm ps4

Luckily I work in Human Resources. Nobody to get me in trouble with!

What a Christmas present it would be! That is actually what started me thinking down this path. So many of us have just chalked this up to a loss and only a Christmas miracle would save us. Well I DO believe in miracles. Let's go Bills!

This is great for you. After the Bills beat the Patriots you can rub it in your in-laws face and not lose your kids to the dark side!