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This is exactly my feeling. I think he kind of owes it both the Bills and himself to put a clear deadline. If you want me I need to know by this date. I know he wants to be a HC but there has to come a point in time where he is damaging his chances at success if he takes the job and/or damaging the Bills chances of success next season. I would hope he is keeping them in the loop but if I were them my patience would certainly be wearing thin. I was going to say the same thing. Yolo might be posting a lot more here as that classic might cost him his job! That was some of the most fun I have ever had as a Bills fan. Especially when they signed him. My wife doesn't care much about football but everyday would ask about it because I was on edge (and couldn't stay away from tbd). When they finally signed him she was as happy as I was (because then I could you know actually pay attention to her)

I can't accept Oswego as the same location as Syracuse. I wouldn't call it CNY as it is generally refered to as the north country but they have it lumped with Syracuse as the location. It is at least a 45 minute drive from Syracuse to Oswego! Yeah they edited that in. I couldn't believe Oswego wasn't on the list and have to believe someone pointed out the error. In an accumulation rating what are the chance that 2 places tie? Slim to none? For my money Oswego/Fulton gets more snow than Syracuse (but it seems very difficult to find stats to back it up)

I'm going to to flip this on it's head for a minute. At what point in time does Pettine owe it to Buffalo to pull his name out? It is already late January! How long should he keep this team on the hook for? At what point in time does he owe it to Buffalo to stop playing the Browns game? Is there a point in time where this happens? He has to have already realized he isn't there first choice. I'm thinking they are keeping his name out there for leverage.

I apologize for taking so long to answer this, I am dealing with a sick and grieving wife at hope - that's a tough combo! Professional sports isn't going through a gradual shift to look at me it has already shifted. There is a celebration where a player points 2 thumbs at his shoulder pads. That is a look at the name on the back celebration. How many wide receivers celebrate every single first down catch they make? What about Kap mocking Cam Newton's td celebration - how many pages did that thread get? Was there even one? As for Pros are role models I agree to an extent. Every moment can be a teachable one. To some parents this behavior is unacceptable so it is a conversation to be had with your kid. I have zero problem with anything he said. I ask again what is the worst thing he said? That Crabtree is a mediocre receiver? That he is the best cb in the game? What specifically did he say that is so upsetting. The worst part about that interview is I knew many would get their panties in a bunch. In the age of everyone gets a trophy Sherman might have hurt Crabtree's feelings . This is a game yes but it is so much more to these players. They many times liken it to a battle or war (their words not mine). It is a true test to them of their manhood. Who is the biggest, baddest, strongest, fastest, etc.. out there. This is their job and there are literally millions of dollars on the line. So he got a little loud and boisterous big deal. I have only responded a few times but I haven't once mentioned anything about anyone being racist. I don't think that has as much to do with the outcry as the wussification of America. A bunch of people are mad at Richard Sherman because he might have hurt Crabtree's feelings. Why are sports interviews so boring and filled with cliches? Anytime someone dares say anything the media and public jump all over them. Why are Marrone's pressers filled with obviously and you knows? So he can have time to make sure what he says won't be able to be taken the wrong way and blown out of proportion. Remember his "blowup" about the injury report in preseason?

No I have absolutely no problem with what he said or how he acted. He was excited and his emotions got the best of him. I have zero problem with that. I enjoy athletes playing with passion and honestly in the grand scheme of things what is the worst thing he said? Crabtree is a mediocre receiver? He's the best corner in the NFL?

Going by the chart the Bills could trade back to 17 with either the Ravens or Cowboys (depending on coin flip) for their 1st and 2nd. From there though trading down to 22 would (according to the chart) net us a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th! The Eagles would be stupid to make that trade imo but it would net the Bills picks 22, 41, 47, 54, 73, and 86. 6 picks in the first 3 rounds would be outstanding! All a pipe dream but wow that would definitely help transform the team. Those 6 picks could net a lb, te, rt, lg, wr, and cb (or whatever they wanted).

I don't think Deion was a douche for it. I found it to be fun. How many corners in the league today do you think grew up idolizing him? How many people idolized Michael Jordan? Tiger woods? (to cite your examples) Sure some people didn't like them but most did because they were winners. Last night Sherman was a winner.

Mj was infamous for running his mouth. Apparently you missed the entire best on earth best on Mars Nike campaign? As for those of you pining about the good old days when players didn't act like this I will present to you Deion Sanders. Neon deon, prime time, the all time showboat. His career started in the 80s! How about Tom Brady? Remember when he ran up to the steelers safety and ran his mouth after scoring a td? He had to run 40 yards to do it! Sherman was emotional and ran his mouth. BFD. He was awfully composed at the desk after getting a few minutes to cool off. How many coaches press conferences have you seen them blow up in? Talking trash in sports is not new and it sit going anywhere.

I don't know if you can get quite that much but $500 isn't out of the question. I sold 2 in 308 for 100$ easily. $500 each would be a nice chunk off of their seasons. Selling just Duke Unc and Pitt I am down to a $250 commitment for my season ticket.

Best money I ever spent!!!

That's why betting on them is win win. Either they win and you get paid or they lose and you're happy anyway. That's exactly what I did and it has removed any worry about the game whatsoever. I got it at pats +5.

I saw a stat that no team has won 4 consecutive true road games since 1966! I'm rooting for the niners today. Then I want them to lose in the Super Bowl. Then I can tell all my niner fan friends that they only know half the pain of being a bills fan! Man I'm full of haterade today!

I figured out a way to make today relatively stress free for a nominal fee. I put a flat bet on the pats* today. If they lose I'm ecstatic if they win I get paid! Since they are a dog there is no way for me to lose!

Off the top of my head so there may be more but: Mankins and veldeer were both first round picks for ne Brandon Albert was a high pick for kc Fluker went 11 overall last year to sd Bulaga was a first round pick by gb So all of the top 5 lines have high picks on their lines. I agree with taking the best player available for our strategy as for the first time in years the weaknesses on this team aren't glaring holes that require a player. Best player available should be able to help this team whether it is ot, lb, te, wr, etc... If it happens to be an ot I am okay with that.

The browns already have a very talented d coordinator. I don't know that he (Horton) is going anywhere.

No doubt Ennis would be a top 10 pick in my mind. By the end of the year he may be seen in the same group as the top "super freshmen." Wiggins, Randle, and Parker have all impressed but also had some ups and downs. Parker may even take a Mormon mission before playing the NBA. Ennis looks ready to go sadly as I would love him sticking around. Grant should stay. Hopefully Fair is a good example for him and money is definitely not an issue so the chance is there. Losing Keita and Fair after this year will be tough but not a knockout punch. Losing Ennis, Grant, Fair and Keita would be tough to overcome.

Chris :censored: :censored: White!!! Whatever happened with that? Yes and yes!!! WNY isn't the wasteland it is made out to be and August would be a great time to showcase that. I can't believe RUss hasn't jumped on this. Get the national public on the little guys side! Most people probably don't/wouldn't care if the Bills moved but if you can get a little national exposure it can't do anything but help them to stay here!

1) Peters risk reward was player based and not behavior. Bad behavior imo will get you a much quicker hook if there is potential. A problem employee has to prove that they are worth it much quicker than someone who isn't. 2) Rogers sat out as a free agent for a couple of weeks, nobody scooped him immediately off of waivers. The demand wasn't very high for him either. He got snatched up by a team that can afford to wait on developing players as well as a team with playoff experience. I agree with the sentiment that if it wasn't Marrone's first year and we weren't 14 years out from our last playoff appearance maybe the leash can be let out a bit longer for developmental projects. 3) I would think the Hilliard firing may have something to do with it as well. Maybe it wasn't laziness, maybe they decided that he can't cut it in the NFL. Maybe the light really did come on after he was cut. It is all speculation but without any info it is hard to bang the drum one way or another that this was the right or wrong decision. bolded - that was a poorly worded sentence on my part "Opportunity doesn't cost potentially put a cancer who hasn't earned his way onto the team on the roster because he dominated the SEC 2 years ago (if that is even the case)." Even reading it makes my head hurt . If that is even the case is referring to him being a cancer as we genuinely don't know. Maybe he just wasn't that good. He indeed did dominate the SEC, I won't argue that, but SEC receivers don't necessarily have the best track record of translation to the NFL. In 2011 he was the 3rd ranked receiver in the SEC behind Ryan Swope (retired/injury) and Jairus Wright who hasn't set the NFL on fire. Every year a few of the top 5 receivers are studs but they are mixed in with names like Jeff Fuller, TJ Moe, Shay Hodge, Darvin Adams, Chase Coffman, etc... Dominating the SEC at receiving (especially for only one year) doesn't guarantee anything in the NFL. edit: I would like to add in I'm appreciating this DISCUSSION because it is just that.

We can learn about the risk reward of players with potential and baggage and why the decisions are made! I keed I keed

Same as College. NFL hashmarks are 18 feet, 6 inches wide (the same as the field goal posts) versus a whopping 40 feet in NCAA football. That is almost 2.2 times wider.

I know I'm always the next day guy but anyways my thoughts: 1. The 3s BC was hoisting and making! This was almost the game where the other team stayed hot throughout. Then they went ice cold at about the 10 minute mark. I knew it was a good thing when Cuse was still hanging close even though they had started slowly in the second half. 2. The fouls in the ACC are out of control. I won't yell conspiracy against Big East teams because I don't think that is it. ACC identity has always been finesse and Big East rough and tumble. Cuse, Pitt, and ND are beating these teams up. Having the depth Cuse does is allowing that. 3. Grant, my man! Boeheim even trusted enough to stick with him when he had 4 fouls and wow what a payoff. When he is on and motivated he is scary good. 4. Fair needs to take control more. He, not Ennis, is who I wish was more demanding of the ball. I know it isn't him but sometimes it gets frustrating. He disappeared for long stretches last night. 5. Cooney. Do I need to say anything about him? Dunks?!? Thank god for his first half yesterday. It also looks like he may have finally shot his way out of his slump. 6. Ennis, Mr. Calm Cool and Collected. Baskets when needed and great at slicing through defenses. 7. The bone bruise sidelining Coleman may actually be good for all involved. IT is getting Grant more time, Rak has stepped his game up, Keita gets more time, and hopefully Coleman is soaking up some of the in game coaching. That said bone bruises hurt like h*ll and especially when they are on joints. 8. C'mon announcers. Read the Brent Axe article. These aren't even ACC announcers they were ESPN announcers last night. It is pathetic. This isn't some bottom of the barrel team it is the #2 team in the country. Shouldn't you know the name of their best shooter TREVOR Cooney?

That would be awesome!!! (not really but I would enjoy it in the Pro Bowl - maybe then I would actually watch) This!!! I can't wrap my head around college kids who aren't as good having to kick from hash marks wider than the field goal bars but the best of the best don't. This would essentially achieve the same effect as narrowing the posts as not every kick would be straight on. It would increase strategy on 3rd down as well as increasing the difficulty of the kick.

1st bolded - what question marks did Jason Peters come in with? Jasper's questions were about his weight. Neither of them had a history of trouble/getting kicked out of school in college. As I have stated several times don't you think the Bills did weigh the cost of keeping him vs. cutting him? They made their decision and it is clear you don't agree with it. 30 pages after one catch though? I don't think his 1 catch is enough proof to say it was a mistake. I also don't think his 3 drops in the next game say it wasn't. 2nd bolded - what if he doesn't develop and the Bills wasted a roster spot? That would be okay because maybe he might develop? If he never catches another ball it was the wrong decision? Are you serious? Wouldn't that prove their decision correct? Wouldn't that let you know that they knew what they were doing? 3rd bolded - many people in this thread have wondered if he was cut for attitude purposes and laziness. Yes then they are in a better place with Hogan on the roster. If you go back to page 27-29 k9 posted a comment which you quoted in which he stated the final roster spot actually came down to Hogan vs. Kaufman. That is actual insight into the team. Opportunity doesn't cost potentially put a cancer who hasn't earned his way onto the team on the roster because he dominated the SEC 2 years ago (if that is even the case). 1) Nice way to cover yourself. How does the sword not cut both ways though? If that 1 catch was such a great example of his talent, how was dropping 2 balls and then getting yanked not an example of how far he has yet to go? 2) I agree completely. Some people already have their mind made up that this was a colossal mistake. I can't get on board with that rationale. 3) As I said earlier pointing out his 3 drops is an example of why he may not end up doing anything in this league and that it was a correct decision. 4) Unless that player is lazy, aloof, above playing special teams, or a distraction. Rogers may not be any of these things or he may be all of these things. 5) Marauders Micro did a great job of debunking this point but I would like to pile on. There is much to lose. The respect of your team or the roster spot that is used for a special teams contributor. Do you not see the irony in your comment that the Bills did exactly what you are talking about? They brought him in, had him for all off-season workouts (not just tc) and decided to cut him loose. They lost nothing for doing this. It is just because we're just not some of the better posters on this board and can't grasp why 59 pages on a UDFA WR is completely necessary. There are so many examples of the Bills being an inept organization, this one isn't... yet

If indeed it was a disciplinary action which I'm still not buying. Did Mort swear on his kid like Moran?

How can you form an opinion on something you have never seen? Many NFL fans do care about and like the show. I think you should watch at least a few episodes before forming an opinion on something. My wife hates football but enjoyed this series. It personalized the players for her as well as giving some insight into all that goes into a football team/game. I want to end this distraction nonsense now. Please check out this link. Teams on Hard knocks compiled a record of 68-59-1 the season before being on the show. The season they were on the show they compiled a record of 67-61. With the volatile nature of the NFL records year to year I think a 1.5 game difference can hardly be something to be concerned about. Read the article it may calm some of the concerns people have. ( I don't mean this pointed at you but just wanted to comment on it) Exactly. What are we worried about screwing up? Why would you not want more Bills? More inside knowledge, as DC Grid said in the above quoted post, it could put butts in the seats and introduce people to the fact that Buffalo isn't much different then the rest of the country. It isn't some wasteland. Screw regionalization this could help with nationalization!