ExWNYer

Just curious. I don't think he can be fairly evaluated off of one game whether it was his best or worst.

What would your take have been had you only watched the Clemson game?

Or maybe they just let it play out in OTAs & camp and the best man/men win? No excuses for Cardale. Work, earn it, or GTFO.

Mayock did, too.

And Mayock said he was "the most pro ready QB in this class". High floor, low ceiling type.

The Peking Ducks? The Shanghai Junks?

He said no such thing. He said Kelly was a "top 5 QB' if not for his off-field issues, not a top 5 pick. Meaning that Mayock would've had him in the top 5 of his QBs this year. Huge difference.

"Here you go, Coach. It's the actual 'Brady' that was thrown onto the field during the New England game last year. I want you to have it...I've been sitting on it long enough."

1. Mike Williams: Baltimore Ravens 2. Corey Davis: Philadelphia Eagles 3. Malik Hooker: Los Angeles Chargers 4. OJ Howard : Buffalo Bills 5 Mitch Trubisky: Cleveland Browns Bills Pick (bonus): OJ Howard

Sure, I see where you're coming from. Personally, I would prefer more chances to fill those spots to give the team some leeway on any misses. There is a smaller margin for error this year and next if you strikeout on any of those picks in the original trade scenario.

And therein lies the conundrum. Moving back in a deep draft and getting worthwhile value will be difficult to achieve, IMO. Not impossible but still difficult. I would agree with you. I'm not against this deal. In fact, I would welcome a trade down...but one downside is that this deal doesn't net them any additional picks. I would prefer that they find a way to finagle an additional lower round pick rather than surrendering one in this scenario. Trading next year's 6th would leave them with six picks again...or is it 5? Are they still on the hook for the conditional 7th that they sent to Green Bay for Lerentee McCray in August of 2016? If so, that would put them at 5 overall picks heading into 2018.

With two first round playoff exits in two appearances and one fired Head Coach to show for it so far. That's not making the most of your selections.

There simply are no words...

Very cool.

We have a similar story. My mom was born and raised in Mobile, AL. My dad was born and raised in Dunkirk, NY and I spent my formative years (thru middle school) in WNY. From the time I was old enough to follow sports as a small boy in the late '60s/early '70s, I have been a diehard Bills & Crimson Tide fan. I grew up cheering for OJ, Dennis Shaw, Marlin Briscoe, and Bear Bryant. It's a strange dichotomy being a Buffalo sports fan & an Alabama fan. Being an avid fan my whole life of lovable losers in the Bills, Sabres, & Mets, Alabama football (and VCU basketball) has been my oasis in the desert. Both of my teenage boys were born and bred in Virginia but are avid Bills fans, as well. I never forced it upon them but they just fell into it watching with me on the Sunday Ticket. Oddly (?), they both cheer for all of the same teams that I do (which I love!), especially my younger son who is a huge sports fan. Their first ever game at the Ralph was the first game of the Pegula era, which was very cool (although the Bills lost). I hope for their sake, more than my own, that they will be able to cheer for a fun & winning Bills (and Sabres) team soon.

I'm not disputing that but they still have to fill out their roster whether or not anyone likes how they do it. Again, they've more than earned their fair share of criticism over the last 17 years but too many on this board B word simply for the sake of bitching and you know it.

It's just like klos63 said above you. This franchise has certainly earned it's fair share of criticism but the OP is being ridiculous worrying about possible comp picks in 2018. This team had over 20 FAs but they're not supposed to sign anyone? I hear that New England* is crushing it in FA. There is probably room on their perfect bandwagon and no reason to criticize them.

DILLIGAF Jesus H...

We'll see the full details soon. From what's being reported, this seems like a great deal for the Bills. Give the FO their credit.

Apples to oranges. The Bills have no leverage with Tyrod's option. They either pick it up or cut him and they only have six days to convince a trade partner that they're keeping him but would still be willing to listen to offers. They can demand all they want but if they play a game of chicken and lose, they get nothing. The 33rd is more than fair if they don't want him or they can try to get a higher pick from Cleveland by throwing back a lower pick with Tyrod. They need to accumulate more draft choices though, not trade them away.

Nice post, well stated. I agree...time to assimilate to the style of TBD. In fairness, this thread was started by the OP to talk about the two sites. Keep that stuff in this thread. Once the newbies have had their catharsis, this thread can, hopefully, die a natural death. All of us were new at one time. You get it. The handful of posts I've observed from you seem well thought out and expressed in an intelligent manner. Welcome.

33rd is essentially a low end 1st Rounder.

In a New York minute.

Wrong. They CAN franchise him again but won't tag him a third consecutive time because it would be cost prohibitive. Cousins was tagged last year at $19.95 million. He was tagged again this year at $23.94 million (120% bump). It would cost Little Dummy Snyder and his franchise $34.47 million (144% bump) to franchise Cousins again next year. Not happening: Can a player be given the franchise tag in consecutive years? "Yes, but it's a costly move for teams. For a player to be given the tag in two straight years, a team has to pay him 120 percent of his previous salary. If a team wants to franchise a player in three straight years, it would have to pay him 144 percent of his previous salary." http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-what-does-nfl-franchise-tag-mean-20170215-story.html

You should...it suits you. BTW, looks like newbie '145B4IDIE' scooped it up. Good job, noob!