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I like it. Nice to be in a big market.

He was doomed. My wife got his jersey last season

Love this. Grades range from A- to D. Shows that if these guys knew anything they would be being overpaid by an NFL tram.

I care. Without analytics what you have is a bunch of old guys looking at paper and film and watching workouts deciding (guessing) what players will perform well in the NFL. How well has that been done for the Bills historically, and particularly in the last 15 years?

No one knows. If the Bills had taken Smith then this forum would be filled with apologists saying how he is a disappointed kid and this has no bearing on how he will perform on the field. But the Bills took Manuel, so some feel the need to piss on the pick that most of the talking heads (and hair) would have preferred. If, God forbid, in 3 years Geno is kicking ass and taking names while Manuel looks like Losman no one will remember threads like this and will demand he be cut and whoever the GM is be fired. It's just the post draft kool-aid talking, no harm done

Man the post-draft kool-aid is flowing in many threads

Yeah having a top agent to go to bat for you is vital if you want to make top dollar for sure.

Kelly, you should know by now that facts have no business in a thread created specifically to rag on one particular player (and/or his agent).

No. The Senator would have said 19-0

Without even seeing them in camp much less anything else, I'm not ready to put numbers on the upcoming season. But I expect Kolb to start, the new WRs to improve during the season, and coaching to improve on both sides of the ball. I expect this to be a rebuilding year where the team improves every week, then 2014 I want to see the baby.

WRs generally need a year to figure out the NFL as well. I expect improvement this season, but expect 2014 to be the season we see the big improvement in the offense.

No, It's just that Manuel is a Bill and Smith is not. That's all. Had the Bills taken Smith the same thread would be here only praising Smith and pissing on some other QB in the draft. Probably Nassib. More likely fall of 2014.

The trade down worked out perfectly. A+ QB, LB, and WR(2) addressed. All positions of great need. A+ I don't follow college ball at all, but based on what I have read Manuel sounds like a bit of a reach. When we play the Jets in 2014 (with Geno) I guess we will start to see first hand which FO was right. Overall I am very pleased with this draft.

I think that's probably more the 2014 season. I see Kolb playing this season while Manuel gets coached up, the coaching staff gels, and the new WRs figure out the NFL. Then in 2014 we see the improved Bills.

Yeah GFs are great. I gotta get one of those.

And 2 picks in the 2nd today I believe.

Damn, dude has been in the NFL less than 24 hours and he is a bust already. I'm always the last to get the memo.

Well, maybe a conditional 6th that turns into a 5th depending upon her performance She's a keeper based on her Vick comment alone.

In the presser after the pick Nix and Marrone both referred to Manuel as a project. Nix even used that word. I think it will be Kolb this season while Marrone works on his project.

In the presser right after Marrone looked visibly annoyed. Not sure if it was the pick or the dumbass questions being asked by the press that caused the annoyance though.

It was pretty funny in my house last night. When the Bills went on the clock at #8 my kids all threatened to renounce their Bills fandom if Nix did not take Geno. When the Bills traded back they were worried, but accepting because of the extra 2nd. When #16 came around and Geno was still on the board they were high fiving each other and singing the praises of Nix for working the draft so perfectly, sure the Bills would take him at #16. When King Roger announced Manuel they all sat down at the same time with open mouths in disbelief. I will find out tonight if my house has 3 fewer Bills fans or not, but it was interesting and fun to see them so wrapped up with a Bills draft pick

I watched a presser shortly after the pick with Nix and Marrone and they both were saying they saw Manuel as somewhat of a project. Nix even used that word once. Statements like "plenty of things to correct", but also "has all the tools". They played it perfectly. Got the guy they wanted and picked up an extra 2nd as well.

I sure do. It's one of the few guaranteed sex nights of the year (But I stall until after the Bills first pick which is all I want to see anyway )

"Let me change the channel and you will get sex later."

"Buuuuuurp". From the beer.