CodeMonkey

^^^ this ^^^ But the posters in this thread that are talking playoffs this season, did you watch that game yesterday? Neither of those teams will be in the post season if they play like that, nor should they be. But also as the saying goes ... you are what your record says you are. And right now that record is over .500.

A win is absolutely a win. And a win is always better than a loss, period. But did either of you think the Bills looked like a team that should be considered as a playoff contender yesterday? Based on Marrones presser, he didn't. And either do I. So yes I am happy the Bills won, but the way they played was a very sobering experience for the remainder of the season. At least for me.

i understand football does not award style points But watching that game yesterday, did you think either team looked like playoff contenders? I certainly did not. They both sucked. The Bills managed to gut out a win which actually is worth a few style points, but only after the Vikings sucked so bad as to give up a first down on a 4th and 20. Just a horrifically played game IMO.

Not sure I have seen a more poorly played game by 2 teams in a long time. It was simply painful to watch. The only good things I can say about it are that it is over, and the Bills ended up with the "W". Awarding two "L"'s would have been more fitting for that game though.

For a lot of people it is all about the social gathering/party, not the game. Which explains the drunken fights you saw as well as the seemingly lack of understanding when to make noise. It's not that they didn't know, they just didn't care.

Every team does when they play the Bills.

Did you see how long Darcy - worthless piece of **** - Regier lasted on the Sabres? Pegula is a solid businessman and as such is not likely to make brash emotional decisions like that until he has found someone better for the job(s). I would be shocked to see any coaches not survive this season.

The thing is, for the most part the ones "complaining" are the ones that were at the game. This is to say, the ones that already have purchased their seasons. I have a family of 5 and we all enjoy watching together. And there is no way in hell I am buying 5 seasons. Besides, I much prefer watching at home to being in the stadium for reasons discussed in other threads. So it makes little difference to me personally what percentage of away fans are there. Though I certainly understand how Bills fans in attendance as well as the Bills players would have a very different opinion.

Actually you are wrong here. They still exist after wins, just far fewer of them.

According to Nate Silvers Elo system, the biggest lock is the Pats* over the Jests at 86% chance of winning but you can't pick them. Based on the attached table, I think you would take the Cards over The Raiders at 78%.

First finish my dinner with the family. Then get ready for all the posts and threads about the zebras being the reason for the loss.

I wouldn't take the Vikings too lightly. All the analytics I've seen point to a fairly close game. The Jests maybe.

Bills 24-21. Everyone in Bills Nation holding their breath as the Vikings are moving the Ball with minutes left, only to falter and turn the ball over on downs.

CBS with spread (Bills -4.5): 5 take the Bills and 3 take the Vikings CBS straight up: All 8 and the computer take the Bills. Microsoft's Cortana says the Bills have a 64.4% chance of winning. Nate Silvers Elo has the game as the Bills as a 3.5 point favorite with a 62% chance of winning. It also shows that according to it, the Bills have a 18% chance of making the playoffs.

I don't know, but plenty here have no problem saying the officiating caused the Bills to lose with absolute certainty.

And these are exactly the stupid rules that need to be removed. Who the !@#$ cares if a WR is on the line or back a step from it.

Interviews with Whaley and Marrone have been all over the sports news here in Roch the past few days. Both of them making statements like he has not given the Bills one ounce of trouble and they want him on the team, and last Sunday was nothing more than a "numbers game". When the prospect of a trade comes up, Whaley says that they will listen to offers from other teams for any player on the roster. But they are not shopping anyone right now and have received no calls about Williams. Unless they are both lying it would seem Williams isn't going anywhere.

I remember feeling sorry for Gailey towards the end, in the pressers he always looked like such a tired and beaten old man. Marrone is starting to get that look now as well, except for the "old" part.

Exactly. Changing QBs is about as big of a "shake up" on the offensive side of the ball as there is.

Are the GB fans whining about bad calls against the small market teams? Probably not because GB has not sucked for the past 14 years.

Marrone is one too. I was watching his presser late last night and he made a comment along the lines of not wanting to say anything about the officiating that would get him in trouble or fined.

I remember that Cowher specifically, and probably most of the ones you listed as well, want a "franchise" QB already on the roster of any team they take over. Don't want to waste their time if the most important position is not adequately filled.

On TV one of the announcers commented that Hughes was beating the Pats* OL with his quickness and that the best way to negate that kind of quickness advantage was to run right at him.

They also disagreed with one that went the Bills way. Trying to look a little objectively, here are the penalty stats: Pats* 9 for 60 yards Bills 8 for 107 yards So the Cheatriats actually had more penalties called against them. The yardage difference looks huge until you remember that Duke Williams masterpiece of a PI that contributed 30 yards to the Bills total. But some will counter that it was when the penalties were called against the Bills that made the difference. You can't really argue subjective things like that. You either Billieve it or not. But if that is the argument, then you (not you specifically Dorkington, the forum software merged my posts ) are stating that the refs actively conspired against the Bills which is very different than simply being incompetent.

8 wins at this point is doable, though not a lock by any means. I will be very disappointed if the Bills don't win the next 2 against pretty bad teams which gets them to 5. So they would need 3 out of the remaining 8, with the likes of the Jests, Raiders, and Fish in those last 8.