Johnny Hammersticks
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Kyle Rudolph is this year's combo plate blocker/receiver TE. We'd probably need to trade someone for the pick, as he's likely to go in the #17-27 range. I'm willing to give McKelvin to Baltimore for their RD1.
Luke Stocker in RD3 is more do-able.Thank you for the cogent post Astrobot. I certainly would love for us to land a guy like Kyle Rudolph, but I doubt it will happen. Your probably right, he won't last until our pick in the second round, and we have to trade back into the first to nab him. We have too many needs to fill for that to happen. I would send McGee off for a pick/trade-up, but I like McLovin's potential too much to let him go.
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When Stevie Johnson dropped the game-winning TD pass, the Bills were lined up in a "power" (i.e, running) formation on first down and sent only one WR (Johnson) out on a route. He was wide open. Is that enough of a "legitimate threat" for ya?
Time to move on.
Wow...you sure set me straight buddy!!
So...you are disagreeing with my point that having legitimate, multi-dimensional (pass catching/blocking) tight ends would be beneficial to this offense? Did you happen to see how the Patriots offense dismantled the Steelers defense a couple weeks ago? Please, know what you're arguing about before you spout-off like a jerk.
+1!! Does anybody actually watch the games?
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Yeah, I did watch the game, and that play certainly was the exception to the rule. Let me ask you this, how much production has the Bills offense received from the tight end position this season? Go ahead...look it up.
No, they are just like the sports writer's out there. Let's just throw a previously determined opinion of a team's capabilities out there and comment on it without looking at the facts. Remember how god awful the Bills were in the media beginning this season? Now all of the sudden we are the "play every team hard" Bills who "fight to the end." Now you can't go anywhere without hearing THAT statement. Same thing here.
Well stated....I could almost understand what you wrote. So what exactly did I post that cannot be supported by the stats? Quote my initial post, and then site some stats which illustrate how effective our tight ends are.
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IMO, we really need to weed-out these lanky, one-dimensional tight ends all together. We need tight ends who can both block effectively and catch passes. This would add another dimension to our offense. I know, I know....we run a rootin tootin spread offense and have no need for power formations. It would be nice, however, to be able to line up in a power set and be a legitimate threat to throw the ball. Keep the defense honest in those short yardage situations.
Shawn Nelson....too one dimensional.
David Martin....below average blocker, essentially useless as a receiver.
Time to move on.
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Just to throw in another view point. Poz has been playing well. Yesterday was not one of his better games, but if you were looking at replays and singling him out on live action plays, you should have also noticed he drew a lot of attention from the Steelers' lineman, etc. This says more about the weakness of our OLB's. and DL that are supposed to help keep them off the LB's, and actually gives Poz credit as being the guy they wanted to focus on. Hate to invoke some rational thought here during a rip fest. We do agree it wasn't one of his better games though.
I'm just saying......
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It is the responsibility of the D-line, particularly in the 3-4, to "hold up" blockers at the line of scrimmage so that the linebackers are able to flow freely to the ball. Our defensive line has not been holding up their end of the bargain, and therefore, these blockers are making it to the second level and destroying our linebackers. I would refer to Poz's play as inconsistent rather than poor, as I have seen him have a few solid games here and there. That being said...I also noticed that he looked lost out there yesterday. He always seemed to be just a second behind the play...slower reaction time I suppose. I agree that we really need to upgrade the linebacker position, but I don't necessarily agree that getting rid of Poz is the answer.
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If your blaming this loss on Fitz YOUR
NUTS !! we wouldn't have been in the game if it wasn't for Fitz !! "It's obvious Fitz isn't the answer" man get off the pipe & start paying attention or take up volley ball or something !! 
Hey if you haven't heard DJ is in Philly go follow him because your living in the past !!!
I believe the person you are criticizing was being facetious.
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A bird in hand is worth two in the bush.
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I'm sure that some classless, poser Bills fans gave him a hard time after the game. He appears to feel betrayed by the fans, and with good cause. The guy has played his but off all season long; bringing tons of positive media attention to an otherwise pitiful organization. The guy has one bad game, and the fans bash him like he's some kind of piece of trash. Times like these make me embarrassed to be a Bills fan.
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It's God's fault now? Boy oh boy.
Loser...that's not what he meant.
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It happens? I dont pay game prices for "it happens." He is paid to " CATCH THE BALL!" Plain and simple. He "F"-up and he should hear about it loud and clear!
Yeah that's productive. Good attitude. Let's degrade Steve Johnson. Hopefully he will lose some self-confidence, and will be somehow a better player as a result. Classy
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You all suck. This team played their hearts out today. Offensively and defensively. Everyone who is making snide remarks about Steve Johnson, Lee Evans, or anyone on this team should be ashamed of themselves.
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I will never understand this infatuation with Robert Quinn. He's not a 3-4 DE at all at this point.
He possesses the speed and athleticism to play 3-4 rush OLB.
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CAM NEWTON is our new Bills QB
....END DEBATE! I can't believe I'm saying this, but I really think we might end up with Newton. Although the idea repulsed me at first, I am beginning to warm up to the guy. He appears to be able to make all the throws, and has the ability to take off down the field if no one is open. If he is there in the second, I say why not? He could learn under fitz for a season or two. The only way I would be opposed to taking him in round 2, would be if a worthy OT fell to us.
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No Ramen Noodles for me, but I have a similar "act of Bills devotion" going on. I haven't shaved my beard since the Detroit victory (facial hair is extremely frowned upon at work), and I do not plan on shaving until the Bills' next loss. I hope to keep it going for at least another week. Kind of a tribute to my man Fitz.
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Quinn, Fairley, Dareus, Bowers....in that order of priority. Cha-Ching!!!!!
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Its not too much of a stretch to imagine Quinn falling into the 30s or even the 2nd round. Maybe we could add him then?
I would cream my shorts if Quinn fell to our pick in the second round. It's not going to happen, but one can only hope
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Or Maybe you weren't watching other QBs, or maybe your bunny ears didn't work well.
Whatever it is I've seen Jim Kelly overthrow James Lofton who was open about 60 yards down the field and the ball sailed about 10-15 yards past him, to call him "fairy armed" is to post one of the silliest post in TBD history.
Admittedly...intimating that Jim Kelly was a "fairy armed" QB was indeed a gross exaggeration on my part. My intention, in my initial response, was to agree with the poster that people seem to place too much emphasis on arm strength when evaluating a QB's potential for success in the NFL. My mention of Jim Kelly was to illustrate that it is not essential for a QB to have elite arm strength to have a great career in the NFL.
Look...Jim Kelly was a GREAT passer, but he did not have elite arm strength. That is a fact. You're lying to yourselves if you think that he belongs in the same class as Cunningham, Favre, Elway, or Jeff George. Those guys had cannons for arms.
I'm not saying anything bad about Jim Kelly, so you all can just relax. Just being realistic.
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Or watch these clips and read this assessment which I agree with :
http://player-rater.blogspot.com/2010/09/robert-quinn-2011-draft-scouting-report.html
At first glance, his stats appear to be great; 52 tackles, 11 sacks Sophomore year. But let's take a closer look. Let's divide the stats from all of the North Carolina games last year based on the strength of the teams Quinn played against. Against The Citadel, East Carolina, Virginia, Georgia Southern, Duke, Boston College, and North Carolina State (7 games), he got ALL of his 11 sacks and 33 of his tackles; against Virginia Tech, Pittsburgh, Florida State, Miami, Connecticut, and Georgia Tech (6 games), he got a mere 19 tackles and 0 sacks! That is a staggering dispersion of stats between teams he played! He made absolutely no impact in games against good teams, yet he dominated against bad teams.
So, you're basing your opinion on an "assessment" made by a 14 year old, self-proclaimed "NFL Draft Scout." Well though out.
johnny, i know you love quinn, but you have to acknowledge that the fact that he only really played one season in college and hasn't played at all this season, is going to significantly affect his draft position/value. if we pick in top 10, no way in hell I draft a player that has 1 season of college ball under his belt.
We missed w/maybin two years ago, so far we've missed w/spiller, and we can't afford to take a high gamble on an unproven player. we need more of a "sure-thing", if there ever is one in the draft.
I acknowledge that, by general rule, it is risky to spend a high first round draft pick on a player with a "short resume." It is preferable to draft players who have demonstrated, consistently, that they are worthy of such a huge investment in money and resources. I doubt, however, that this will hurt Quinn's draft position. I suspect that after the combine he will pretty much assured himself as a top 5 draft pick.
I'm not completely sold on Quinn. I also really like Fairley and Dareus...amongst other prospects. I'm just tired of hearing some people say that we should not even consider Quinn based on his body of work. That's silly. We need to weigh all of our options.
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They're both making big plays in this game but Fairley is making bigger plays.
That excessive celebration penalty was BS.
Fairley had a dirty rep but this guy is stepping up big time.
One of these guy could be the Bills first round pick.
Also please quit the Robert Quinn talk he is too risky with too short of a resume to take in the first round.
Oh please...stop whining
about the "too risky, short resume" bull crap. Just because the front office whiffed on Maybin, a player with similar risk factors, does not mean that Quinn will also be a bust. Maybin is too small and too weak to play OLB in the 3-4, and was a TERRIBLE draft choice. Quinn is 6-5, 270 lbs., and was clocked at 4.38 seconds in the 40 yard dash!! The guy is a once-in-a-decade prospect...an absolute freak. Watch some film on Quinn, and then formulate your own opinion. Don't dismiss him as a possible draft pick just because of the Maybin debacle.
Better yet...watch the you tube video of him man-handling Anthony Castonso, one of the highest rated LT prospects in this years draft.
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I don't know why revisionist history you're working on Jim Kelly was one of the strongest armed QBs in NFL history. .
Jim Kelly...one of the strongest arms in NFL history??? The guy had adequate arm strength, but to say that he had one of the strongest in NFL History? Are you serious? Maybe I was watching a different player all those years.
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If you're gonna throw around the word "doosh" so much, you should at least spell it correctly...it's D-O-U-C-H-E
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Chan and Fitz make a great team. You have a coach who is an offensive maestro and a QB who is mentally capable of executing it. Take a moment and think back to some of the great NFL QBs. Not all of them had cannons for arms. Joe Montana didn't. Marino? JP Losman had a million dollar arm and a 10-cent head. Just saying that lacking some physical gifts does not preclude you from being a great QB.
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Great post.
People seem to put so much emphasis on arm strength, they tend to forget about the "fairy armed" QB's who have been very successful in this league. We had a pretty good one here in Buffalo by the name of Jim Kelly. I believe Jamarcus Russell could throw the ball 80 yards from his knees....what's he doing now?
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I give you a lot of credit Fitzy. Creating a thread stating that we should trade Spiller was absurd, but at least you stuck around to defend yourself. Big props
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Apparently you didn't get the memo... the NFL has enhanced the rules over the last 8 years. Clearly if Fiedler was playing in this era, he'd be putting up those kind of numbers on a weekly basis.
That's a bold and baseless assumption. Perhaps trends in overall passing statistics have improved over the past 8 years due to the rule changes, but to say that Jay Fiedler would be putting up those numbers in today's NFL is ridiculous. He was always a "game manager" type QB who rarely lit up the stat sheet with 300+ yards and 3-4 TD's.
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No
Stop the madness.
Top 10 draft prospects
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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It has been speculated that Robert Quinn, due to his speed and athleticism, can easily make the transition to 3-4 OLB. He's 6'5" 270 lbs, and has been clocked at 4.38 in the 40. Scary.