Johnny Hammersticks
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No, to the bolded part, IMO.
Great banter in this thread!
Let's take this scenario out a year. What if we have a shot at Andrew Luck? Fitz to the bench game #1?
Now that depends upon whether or not there is a 2011 season. If there is a season, and Fitz improves on his performance from last year, then no....Luck carries around a clip board until he is needed. Let's be honest though...if the Bills lose enough games to get a shot at Luck, Fitz probably wouldn't have had a good year. Consequently, Luck would be the week 1 starter in 2012.
You kind of answered your own question.
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I keep seeing posts where the Bills draft a QB at the #3 pick and then have him sit for the whole year. My question is why have them ride the bench?
If you look at the recent 1st round QB picks, you see alot that started as rookies: Big Ben, Bradford, Flacco, Ryan, Stafford, Sanchez, etc.
IMO, if you think the guy you drafted is your new franchise QB, you might as well let him start getting the experience that only playing the game can give. The Steelers won a SB with Big Ben being a rookie, the Ravens made it to the AFC conference championship with Flacco as a rookie, so its not like you would be throwing your season away by starting a rookie QB.
You make the point regarding rookie 1st round QB's staring in their first season, but for many of them there is a very good reason they are thrown to the wolves. I will use the QB's you mentioned as an example.
Ben Roethlisberger - QB before he was drafted: Tommy Maddox Stats: 3414 yds 18 TD 17 INT
Sam Bradford - QB's before he was drafted: Marc Bulger, Keith Null, Kyle Boller Combined Stats: 2060 yds 8 TD 16 INT
Joe Flacco - QB's before he was drafted: Kyle Boller, Steve McNair, Troy Smith Combined Stats: 3180 yds 13 TD 14 INT
Matt Ryan - QB's before he was drafted: Joey Harrington, Byron Leftwich, Chris Redmon Combined Stats: 3573 yds 18 TD 15 INT
Matthew Stafford - QB's before he was drafted: Dan Orlovsky, Daunte Culpepper, Drew Henson, John Kitna Combined Stats: 3180 yds 17 TD 19 INT
Mark Sanchez - QB before he was drafted: Brett Favre (We all know what happened to Brett) Stats: 3472 yds 22 TD 22 INT
My point is...there were very good reasons for all of these QB's to be thrust into the starting role in their rookie season.
2010 Stats Ryan Fitzpatrick: 3000 yds 23 TD 15 INT...in 13 games. Given Fitz's performance in 2010, do we really need to put a rookie QB on the field just because they are a 1st round pick? Furthermore, do we really need to use a 1st round pick on a QB at all?
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This might sound crazy, I know, but I say we draft kickers in rounds one and two. Lindell definitely didn't have a stellar season in 2010, so I say we just move on. Of the two kickers, one of them would definitely turn out to be a perennial pro-bowler....right? At least we would have something going for us!
I round three we will take the best punter of the bunch because clearly Moorman is on the downside of his career.
All of the projected top ten picks are going to be busts anyway....why take the risk?
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I get fanatical about the draft, but I rarely have a conviction on a player. The last one was Brian Orakpo <shudder>, but this time it is LB Bruce Miller of UCF. He's projected as a mid-round pick, but I can't figure out why. Some highlights:
- College DE that projects to 3-4 ILB
- 2009 and 2010 Conference USA Defensive Player of the Year
- Current active career sack leader in the NCAA (34.0)
- Recorded sacks in non-conference games against bigger schools like Rutgers, Kansas St, Georgia and Miami
- Recorded one sack in the East-West Shrine game
- 4.76 40 time at the combine
- 35 bench reps (most reps of all 22 DE prospects to participate in the drill. No LBs had more than him, and only 2 DTs had more)
youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=9FABW6VvkrA
Don't you guys think he'd look great in a Bills jersey?
I'd definitely take him with the later pick in round four if he was there.
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Chris Mortenson has reported that teams can trade future draft picks, but were forewarned by the NFL to trade future picks "at their own risk." It seems that no draft in 2012 could be part of Brady's antitrust litigation suit.
Sorry can't provide a link...my computer's being gay. Google it.
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I don't get the infatuation with Carimi ?? I saw some tape of him on utube & Bowers took his a** to the wood shed & taught him what it was like to play against a better player .
He couldn't stop nothin that Bowers put out !!
We don't need any more prospects for the guard position !!!
Dude, not sure what you're smokin but pass some this way. Carimi is arguably the best RT prospect in this draft, and is quite possibly the best run blocker. He is what we need on the right side of our offensive line. BTW...ask Adrian Clayborn and Cam Heyward what it's like to play against a good offensive tackle.
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i remember hearing about how dominant this guy was and the nasty disposition and mean streak that he posesses. he was surely the no. 1 overall pick. a game changer, impact player and the guy that dominated the national championship game. this was the "i'd love to have him but there is no way we can get him" guy. so my question goes out to those of you that watch a lot more college ball than i do, and that is why is this guy not in the discussion for no. 3? was he overhyped or did we talk ourselves out of it because we didn't think he would be available? just curious, thanks.
This is a really good question. I know he showed up a little light to the combine, but he looked pretty darn impressive in drills. I believe he is seen a more of an interior pass rusher than a run stuffing 3-4 DE. Probably, in most people's opinions, better suited as a 4-3 DT. After his dominant performance in the bowl game it seemed as though he was a lock to be the first player taken in the draft. Nothing since then has happened to hurt his draft stock....well nothing that i know of anyway.
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There are reports that the New England Patriots, holders of six picks in the top 92 selections of this year’s draft, could be convinced to part with their second first-round pick at 28. The Patriots also have the 17th pick in addition to the 28th and they’ve got the first pick in round 2 (33rd overall):
http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2011/03/21/pats-ready-to-deal-2nd-1st/
Depending on who is there at #28 (i.e., Gabe Carimi) it may be worthwhile to trade our 2nd and maybe a 5th rounder to move up.
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St Louis Rams in 2000.
Congrats...you found an exception to the rule. They were ranked dead last in overall defense, but 13th in overall rush defense. They also had an undrafted free agent, former Arena League player for a QB.
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Rothlisburger won a superbowl behind a bad O line. Manning gets it done.
It's a QB driven league, you have to have a franchise QB to win in this league. If the QB is there you take him. You can get tackles in mid rounds, not the case with QB. Accurate, quick decision making takes the pressure off of the O line.
Name the last team to make the playoffs with arguably the worst defense in the NFL? Teams can win with an average QB...win the super bowl even (Yes, I know it's the exception to the rule), but teams cannot be successful with a horrible defense.
I don't agree with the OP in that I think we need to address the QB position at some point during this draft. Reason being...if Fitz goes down, our back-ups are Brohm and Brown. That is really scary to me. Drafting a "second-tier" QB in rounds 2 or 3 not only gives us some depth behind Fitz, but there is a chance that that player could be our long-term answer at QB.
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2. Miller Mock With Huge Run Defense Emphasis, Take a Smart, Midround QB
1 3 Buffalo Von Miller OLB34 Texas A&M
2 34 Buffalo Stephen Paea DT43 Oregon State
3 68 Buffalo K.J. Wright ILB Mississippi State
4 99 Buffalo Pernell McPhee DE34 Mississippi State
4 121 Buffalo Kenrick Ellis DT34 Hampton
5 130 Buffalo Greg McElroy QB Alabama
6 164 Buffalo Charlie Gantt TE Michigan State
7 195 Buffalo Derek Hall RT Stanford
COMMENT: This would IMHO be an 'A' draft for us. You take two kinds of DT's and a DE who wreaked havoc at the Senior Bowl. McElroy isn't flashy but he's smart and with winning teams since HS.
I like this draft the best. Not a huge fan of Von Miller (I'd rather have Quinn), but I like the emphasis on run defense. Given that we are likely to use multiple defensive fronts, I like the diversity of D-Line talent in this draft. I think Kendrick Ellis is going to be a beastly NT. McElroy does not upgrade our QB position, but he provides a decent backup QB who is smart enough to quickly learn the playbook and could be a decent "game managing" QB if Fitz got hurt.
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Green's poor score on the Wonderlic (not sure if I spelled that right) in my book lowers his draft position to the 15 -20 area. You can have all natural talent in the world but what good is it if you can understand a NFL play book?
Green, IMO, is one of the most polished WR prospects to come out in a long time. Don't put too much stock in his Wonderlic score. He is an incredible route runner, has tremendous hands, pretty good speed, and has produced against top competition in the NCAA. He will be just fine.
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"Either-Or" BPA Draft: Top 2 BPA's When We Pick (left out RB's and later WR's)
I'm looking at Top players available when we pick in each round. Some good forced choices here.
Astro
1 Patrick Peterson CB or Nick Fairley DE34 or Von Miller OLB34
2 Stephen Paea DT43 or Justin Houston OLB34 or Ryan Mallett QB
3 Colin Kaepernick QB or KJ Wright ILB or Jerrell Powe DT34
4 Lance Kendricks TE or Pernell McPhee DE34
4 Kenrick Ellis DT34 or Orlando Franklin RT
5 Greg McElroy QB or James Brewer RT
6 Charlie Gantt TE or Shiloh Keo SS
7 Derek Hall RT or Lee Smith TE
Nick Fairley
Justin Houston
KJ Wright
Lance Kendricks
Kendrick Ellis
Greg McElroy
Shiloh Keo
Lee Smith
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What is everyone's fascination with Casey Matthews? I feel like I see him in the 4th round of every single mock draft. I have watched him play several times this past season, and I have been underwhelmed with his performance. Please, someone explain to me what is so great about this guy (besides his last name).
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I simulated my proposed San Fran trade again re-prioritizing 3-4 OLB as P-1
7. Robert Quinn OLB UNC
34. Kyle Rudolph TE ND
45. Adrian Clayborne DE Iowa
68. Chris Hairston OT Clemson
99. Chris White ILB Mississippi St.
107. Ricky Stanzi QB Iowa
130. Chykie Brown CB Texas
164. Shiloh Keo SS Idaho
195. D. Johnson-Koulianos WR Iowa
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Casey Matthews 6'1" 232 lbs at the combine....aren't we trying to get bigger at the linebacker position?
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LSU CB Patrick Peterson and UGA WR AJ Green, both scored very low on the wonderlic. "Peterson plays like a low test guy" is one scout's assessment.
Defensive Back and Wide Receiver, IMO, are not positions that require a "cerebral" type of player. I'm not worried about guys like Peterson and Green scoring below average on the Wonderlic.
Darelle Revis scored a 10 on the Wonderlic.
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Not so fast my friend.... If the players win their injunction law suit then the NFL operates under the current existing CBA. It is conceivable with the time it could take to play out in the courts that the 2011 season is actually played using the current CBA.
Give up the chance to take a franchise QB at 3 and instead pick a JC kid one year wonder at 7 and a project QB in the the third round?
Now Cam Jordan at 7 and Ponder, Mallet, or Locker in the third - that would work.
I agree with you except I would take JJ Watt at #7 and then Mallett/Ponder/Kaepernick in the 3rd. Locker just seems like a trainwreck to me...in the NFL.
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need pick 45
I re-simulated including the #45 pick from San Francisco.
7. Nick Fairley DT Auburn
34. Nate Solder OT Colorado
45. Jabaal Sheard OLB Pittsburgh
68. Colin Kaepernick QB Nevada
99. Owen Marecic ILB Stanford
107. Edmund Gates WR Abilene Christian
130. Julius Thomas TE Portland St.
164. Quinton Carter SS Oklahoma
195. Harold Ayodele DT Emporia St.
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I thought the same thing when I say Harris. He had zero chance @ the NBa because of his size. But he look like he could be an animal on the football field. I don't think he is up too much right now. I would make sense to kick the tires to see if there is anything there.
Looked it up....he currently plays for the Tropane "Texters" of the Philippine Basketball Association. I can't believe he declared for the draft as a junior. He just might be willing to come on for a try out
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Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too...
Do they ever say you're a dreamer Hammersticks?
Some might say that...
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Perhaps instead, the Pat's would like to trade up to #3 (ahead of Cincinnati and Cleveland presumably) to select A.J. Green. They certainly have the draft picks to make the move, but it would likely take both of their 1st rounders (17 & 25) and likely a 2nd rounder (33) to do it
Having 17, 25, 33, & 34 would be pretty awesome!!
Imagine the possibilities...
17. Cam Jordan/JJ Watt
25. Gabe Carimi
33. Akeem Ayers
34. Martez Wilson
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I wonder what happened to former Cuse small forward, Paul Harris? He's 6'5" 240, athletic with great hands, and build like a brick outhouse. I remember watching him play and thinking, jeez....he might make a good tight end. Huh?
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I'm simulating this trade:
Round Pick Team Selection Psn School C
1 1 Carolina Da'Quan Bowers DE43 Clemson
1 2 Denver Marcell Dareus DT43 Alabama
1 3 San Francisco Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri
1 4 Cincinnati Cameron Newton QB Auburn
1 5 Arizona Patrick Peterson CB LSU
1 6 Cleveland Von Miller OLB43 Texas A&M
1 7 Buffalo Nick Fairley DE34 Auburn
2 34 Buffalo Kyle Rudolph TE Notre Dame
3 68 Buffalo K.J. Wright ILB Mississippi State
4 99 Buffalo Greg Romeus OLB34 Pittsburgh
4 107 Buffalo Korey Lindsey CB Southern Illinois
4 121 Buffalo Tim Barnes OC Missouri
5 130 Buffalo James Brewer OT Indiana
6 164 Buffalo Delone Carter RBF Syracuse
7 195 Buffalo Lee Smith TE Marshall
Thanks Astro
Love picks 1-4. I think Wright is vastly under rated, and will be a starter in this league someday (although I think Sheppard is the Bills pick if he's there). Not a big fan of Korey Lindsey or Tim Barnes. I would rather take Moffit with one of those picks. I like Delone Carter as a late-round option, and Lee Smith is a beastly run-blocking TE. He doesn't add much in the passing game, but he certainly would help out tremendously in the run game and special teams.
Official Buffalo Bills 2001 NFL Draft Hat
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Who's going to wear the 2011 "official draft hat" on the stage....Roger Goodell? Or perhaps the Bills will send a representative to hold up the #1 jersey, shake hands with Goodell, and wear official hat....I nominate the Elvis dude.