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Another brilliant thread idea. Just an outstanding effort here.

V Good overview. I agree totally. Thanks for that!

understanding this ruling was not on merits, I see absolutely no single sentence in the Constitution guaranteeing White House press access, ability to ask questions to the president, or anything similar. Also don’t see how this has anything to do with due process. He’s not being charged with a crime.

I agree with all that. Just so so pathetic what government/politics has become. I include the media in that because there are very few outlets that don’t have an obvious vested stake in politics. The country really needs Libertarians now more than ever. Only thing I think that can reverse this mess.

CNN hasn’t had any credibility for a while now, if I was trump I’d let Acosta back in and just never call on him. Tell SHS to do the same.

NOT trying to be a jerk but I read this 4 times and I don’t really get what you are saying. The first paragraph really is throwing me off.

Probably explains why this thread is barely two pages yet threads demanding firings and have “McBeane” or “McClappy” get to a dozen pages in an instant.

Yeah, I believe you are incorrect on this one. This is a legit article about Beane discussing the plan, so it’s akin to to comments under the article. Good thread, IMO. “Someone needs to be fired if someone does or doesn’t do something right now, aarrgghh” - that’s a bad thread. Just my my humble opinion.

Yikes! thats way way over the line. Should definitely see charges being filed on that one.

What does that have to do with what we are talking about. Jeez. I swear, it’s impossible to have a reasonable discussion on this board nowadays. The OP’s point was that if Zay keeps coming along, the 2017 and 2018 draft are looking good. I made add a joke/prediction that someone would try and argue that because the Bills didn’t draft Mahomes in 2017, McDermott should be fired and he’s the worst ever. The Dude/Jeffismagic bit and made that point and claimed that Mahomes was considered a “generational” talent. I proved he he was not by citing multiple predraft articles that explained how he was viewed at the time, which was very risky with lots of upside. Maybe I should have provided examples of what generational talents are right before a draft, like Andrew Luck, John Elway, Conor McDavid, Zion Williamson, LaBron James. My bad. I also made the the point that given the FO situation and the fact that McD was new, no person in their right mind could expect him to draft a QB prospect like Mahomes in the first round. Dude said, I knew. You said what you did. Now I’m going to go put a cork on the end of a fork and start sending that and eye patches to members of TBD. https://tenor.com/view/stevemartin-cork-fork-funny-gif-5689634

Agreed. Also and plus - the original point was that saying Mahomes was considered a “generational prospect” is flat out revisionist history. He flew up draft board post season during combines and was thought of as a physically gifted prospect that had poor footwork, came from a college offense that produced big numbers but not good pro QBs, and was extremely reckless with his throws. NFL GMs has him as high as mid first all the way down to a 4th rounder as late as mid-April! Expecting a new coach using lame duck GM/staff insight to take a guy like that is hilarious and shows me dude has no idea what he’s talking about and only cares to tell people he doesn’t know on a message board that he rated Mahomes as a “generational” prospect. Pathetic really.

You should send all your predraft posts from BBMB to NFL teams and get a job in the scouting departments or maybe even as a GM! Because “you knew”!

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How is Neverneverland?

You can’t rationalize with Jeffismagic. And you can’t come back from “Generational Talent”.

Thats your retort??? Jeez, at least try man. You’re either being incredibly stubborn or intellectually dishonest. Or.....you are jeffismagic.... ?

Is this a torches and pitchforks situation??? ?

Here’s another one.... mahomes was ranked 6th best QB here on April 18, 2017. https://www.google.com/amp/s/ftw.usatoday.com/2017/04/2017-nfl-draft-quarterback-rankings-scouting-reports-mitchell-trubisky-deshaun-watson-patrick-mahomes-deshone-kizer/amp

Disagree. He wasn’t generational at the time. In fact many observers thought the chiefs paid a steep price for a guy who was viewed as physically gifted but raw. Many people praised the Bills for the move down. The bottom line is that the FO was in flux and you can’t ask a brand new head coach with a lame duck GM and their lame duck college scouting to take a QB at 10. If they were picking at 1 and Andrew Luck or Peyton Manning we’re there, maybe you’d be correct. But not the situation in 2017. So if there is blame I’d put it on ownership who hired a coach first with a dead man walking GM and waited until after the draft to bring in the new GM. And just for good measure, here’s and article from April 2017 which gives a more balanced view of the kind of prospect Mahomes was in absence of 20/20 hindsight. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2017/4/17/15326962/2017-nfl-draft-quarterback-patrick-mahomes-stock-rising-texans-cardinals

It’s really not. You’re using hindsight 20/20 and not really understanding the FO situation at the time. You could reasonably blame ownership for creating that situation, but not the head coach.

Oh. I agree with you. I meant to be backing up your point. Sorry it was not very clearly written. We agree!

The GM wasn’t in place. Mahomes was not a consensus, clear cut obvious pick. In retrospect it would have been awesome to have taken him there, but I don’t think that’s on McDermott at all. You can’t take a swing at a first round QB without a GM in place and working with an outgoing GMs staff and research. Can’t do it. Ha. Surprised it took that long to come out thought.

I’m bracing for the inevitable Mahomes comment followed by fire Beane (even though he wasn’t on staff but apparently was running the draft from Carolina or something like that). ?

Ha! Frustrating I’m sure.

Joking man. Whether or not eball and gungy are BFFs or not, this is a terrible excuse for a new thread. SDS might want to focus on the overwhelming amount of absurd threads that are constantly popping up. IN is just a way for members to police it. There’s not much recourse for people who come here to try and get this board a little more tolerable.