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Well I would like to see Fitz play just as long as we have somewhat of a chance at going 8-8 or better. I think that if we get to 9 looses Brohm should have been a serious consideration to start a game or two towards the end of the year. If we honestly believe that Brohm has potential why not just throw him out there and let him get his feet wet in what is otherwise garbage time?
I think Brohm has potential but is he the answer? I don't really know but I don't think it would hurt at all to have him start towards the end of a loosing season I mean Fitz has gotten plenty of starts this year and I doubt he would get hurt by taking away a start or two towards the end of a season.
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If you need a Shannahan so bad, why do most teams not hire name coaches? Do you know only 5 NFL head coaches have experience? 5 out of 32!! The Bills don't need Shannahan for credibility. They need to look like they are heading in the right direction. A good GM will do that. If you are hiring Shannahan or Cowher you are betting the farm on something that rarely works.
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If Shanny doesn't want to come here I would be all for hiring a football GM and a coordinator like Russ Grimm. However if we can get Shanny I think that he would be the best fit for the situation.
Unlike other organizations (Dallas, both New Yorks, Washington, New England, and other bigger more glamorous markets) we don't have the luxury of 1- playing in a big market, 2- Having a winning situation, and having a stable situation beyond the near future. So the Cowboys can hire a hot shot coordinator and bring in free agents to help build his system quickly. The Bills need to build with the draft and that takes years and is a crap shoot.
If we go coordinator/GM INSTEAD of Shanny I think that would be a mistake. Shanny brings creditability to this franchise and it goes beyond attention. Shanny is an offensive guy who builds teams that can be successful in Buffalo. I think that he is the opposite of DJ and unlike a coordinator like Russ Grimm we won't be sacrificing 2 or more seasons trying to build a system.
The Jets brought in Rex Ryan and they were able to sign Bart Scott, Jim Leonhard, and trade for Lito Sheppard AND they also had the draft, and as well as an in season trade for Braylon Edwards. If the Bills brought in Russ Grimm they would only be able to help him with 2nd and 3rd tier free agents and the Bills draft picks. Not saying Shanny would attract bigger names right away but he knows what players fit his system and can get his system implemented much quicker.
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That seems to be what people want...credibility. Not winning football, just having ESPN talk about us. Trust me, you want credibility with free agents? Show them some of the $50M Ralph will save not hiring Shannahan.
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If you don't have a coach who legitimizes your team you end up having to overpay for guys like Derrick Dockery. Its not about getting talked about on ESPN its just about bringing in a guy who can coach and build a team to me Shanny can do that.
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The only thing I am excited about in this Shanahan coaching circus is the idea of being in the market and the idea of trying to get top coaching in Buffalo. We need a personel guy, somebody who is proven to understand how to put a team together. Shanahan has 4 playoff appearances in 10 years without Elway, seems like mediocre results(although mediocre is better than what we have been putting up with). His reputation in Denver was of rifling through free agents, always looking for another guy. He was a mediocre when holding both GM/Coach.
With a good GM and good coordinators, HC becomes a bit less important. I would rather bring in a Holmgren, Shottenhiemer, Casserle as GM. Maybe Weiss or Bratkowski from the Bengals as OC, and maybe Bates, Frazier, Capers, or Nolan as DC, and after that Fewell can stay as HC at that point, he is an excited easy to like guy who seems pretty pumped to be running an organization. With that cast plus a new strength and conditioning coach it doesnt really matter who the HC is.
Well if you take away the last few years with a young Cutler Shanny made the playoffs 4 out of 7 years without Elway which is pretty good (Although not great) he also took the Broncos to the AFC title game with Jake Plummer at QB. So to me Shanny is the guy he plays a style conducive to working in Buffalo and beats the Pats*. Shanny brings credibility to Buffalo he can attract Free Agents and bring in a pedigree that players will buy into intimidately.
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Pass I'll take Russ Grimm if Shanny doesn't pan out
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I have an old bed frame and it keeps sinking. I am trying to see if anyone here knows of a way to make it so that the bed frame can support my weight (I weight around 190) and I do use a box spring. I will eventually buy a new frame but with Christmas coming up funds are low.
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Which is why they are making a big mistake. Just hire a good GM and let him hire a good coach. End of story. Stop chasing wannabe football czars and promising them the moon.
You can find a GM in late December I guess my point is you want to keep the option open for a Shanahan.
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I voted yes because I'm being honest. Those that vote "Not a Chance" are friggin delusional.
Having said that (/Curb), she's really not all that great. She's hot, but she's not any hotter than any chick in the background at McLaren's on "How I Met Your Mother".
Of course, hotness is subjective. So... whatever.
To be fair those chicks in the background of McLaren's are really hot and not the average chick just ask Barney Stinson. Honestly I voted yes she has a hot bod and an OK face but I would throw it in her for sure.
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'Follow the owner, follow the QUARTERBACK, and you will find out where Shanahan will go'.
Again, lets start looking for a damn good GM and let him bring in a staff and HC. I just don't see the Bills being attractive to any of the top 'name' coaches.
Now I am not saying that is a bad thing, I am just thinking it is what it is.
The money seems to be right (If that 10 million a year mark is right) and the owner seems to be willing to give up control to Shanny as well. Also Shanny is an egomaniac which means the challenge could be enticing to him. I don't know if Shanny will come here or not. BUT I do know that they are doing everything they can to land him which is an encouraging sign.
Also because we are looking for Shanny as HC and GM doesn't mean we are not looking for a GM as well.
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The reason the Bills haven't hired a GM is because they are holding out that power to give to a big name guy like Shanny. Honestly if you get declined by Shanny then that guy from the Giants sounds like a good choice. BUT they are not going to hire a GM while a guy like Shanny wants that power.
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OK if this guy was any good then wouldn't he be signed with another team? Guys who are 342 pounds and are any good would be signed by another team. Not trying to be a downer I LOVE the move from a philosophical perspective but other then the mentality of grabbing bigger players this move is pretty much a nothing move.
Don't get me wrong I like the move its just that there is a 90% possibility that this guy is nothing more then a PS player.
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I'm not so sure its a given Shanny and Bills would wait a month. If we offer what he needs (and a bit extra to not wait until January) there is a lot of benefit Shannahan could gain by being with this team and roster for the final 6 weeks.
If Shanny felt good about the Bills and the pay...he's not going to flippantly throw away the advantage that seeing his new roster up close for 6 weeks would bring. Marv Levy had this exact advantage in 1986.
Well he could still be looking at (From a far) the roster and who he wants and doesn't want. Admittedly if he just took the job (as GM then took over the head coaching job after the season) he could get a better more up close look as well as begin to build the structure that he wants.
I just think that he doesn't want to commit till he has all of his options laid out in front of him. I also think that a deal of this magnitude might not get fully ironed out till late December. But yeah I get your point that it would only benefit him to take the job asap and clean house and begin to install the structure he wants in place.
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Shanny has always had the Pats* number, he builds good offensive lines along with great ground games, even without Elway he still had success (with guy by the name of Jake Plummer they went to the AFC championship game) up until the last few seasons Denver had very good defenses with Shanny at the helm.
The guy is an offensive mind who instills a lot of passion into his team and has a winning pedigree to command respect (The opposite of DJ). I don't see what is wrong with hiring this guy.
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While a final decision on HC will not be made until January, I think this meeting was helpful for the Bills decisioin makers in that they now have a better idea on how comfortable they are on bringing a Coach who will also be GM versus hiring a GM and then a coach. It will be interesting to see if the Bills change their focus from Shanny/Cowher to hiring a GM before the end of the season and then a new coach later on.
Don't get me wrong the search has already begun and is in full swing BUT as much as Ralph, Russ, and Co want a guy like Shanny to come in now they are just going to have to be patient keep doing their due diligence until late December. While us fans are just going to have to realize that this team isn't going to get the guy until then.
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Its all posturing, the money isn't the real issue. Its that these guys all have agents who want to see what else is out there. Plus too its around the holidays and these guys don't want to have to work during Thanksgiving and Christmas. So don't take Shanny not signing here as an insult to Buffalo he is just being very calculated with his decision.
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Now I think that Shanahan will be the Bills next coach since the money and giving up of control with Ralph doesn't seem to be an issue and he is a guy who has a huge ego (Which means he thinks that he is the reason for success and wants the challenge that comes with this team) who also doesn't like big media outlets.
BUT wither it happens or not we will not know for at least another month. I don't think any big name will sign one before the end of the year or at least another month. So I wouldn't take the fact that after all these meetings if Shanny doesn't sign on as a sign that he isn't going to be the coach. All these guys have agents and they want to leverage other offers or at least see what else is out there.
Coaches have a business side to themselves that won't let them take the first job that is offered. In my opinion what happens over the next few weeks isn't a sign either way of who will and won't be coaching this team. Around Christmas is when the real stuff will go down with this team and its future. So while the meetings are a good sign I just don't see Shanny or someone else taking this job at this point in time.
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Bring in Chad Pennington to make this team look respectable for next season and to mentor Brohm or another QB you draft. Either you draft a LT to shape the O-line or a QB and then bring in a vet QB (Pennington preferably or Kerry Collins) to teach the young guys and take the hits.
Romo had Bledsoe and Vinny Testaverde to teach him how to be an NFL QB as well as 4 years to learn the system he would play in. Brady* cheated
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sheesh we better get a matt ryan or we are screwed..lol
what a pile of fesces out there in FA
Yeah Kerry Collins and Jason Campbell are only starters in the perfect situations but Chad Pennington is a good option for the Bills going into next season.
Pennington isn't a bad stop gap QB. Next year the guy will be 34 and even though he has often struggled with injury when healthy the guy is pretty good (At least midlevel NFL starting QB caliber). To me if I am the Bills I have 2 big targets for free agency going into next season. 1- Chad Pennington (Professional QB, also if you draft a QB he can be a great teacher while Chad takes the hits) 2- Derrick Johnson (Linebacking core needs help and so does the run D guys helps out on both ends).
In addition to both guys helping the team both would come at a reasonable price and both might be undervalued enough to come to Buffalo. Johnson might come here and take a similar offer we offered Mitchell while Pennington might just take a 3 million dollar with incentives offer per year for 2 years offer.
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biggest names in the QB free agent class this year are Kyle Orton and Jason Campbell.
Chad Pennington and Kerry Collins are the best that will be out there (Orton won't reach free agency while Campbell is Trent Edwards).
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Already there are news stories of the Bills contacting Gruden and Shannahan, There's a rumor of Dungy now too. We may not get these guys but it won't be for lack of trying. Some mirage.
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A lot of people forget that we might not attract free agents and big name coaches not because Ralph is cheap or because he is stupid and/or evil BUT because its hard to get guys that want to come here. I honestly think Ralph wants to hire a Gruden, Shannahan, Cower, or Dungy type of coach and is willing to pay the 5-8 million dollar a year salary as well as hand over organizational control (From a football standpoint odds are Russ and Co will handle the other duties still)
BUT even that might not be enough to lure those guys here when Dallas or Washington can offer those things plus more stability (Bills moving possibility might steer away some coaches) and glamor (Buffalo isn't exactly the job everyone wants) so Ralph might be doing everything he can and it still might not pan out.
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Don't get me wrong. I'm not at all suggesting that Chris Polian would want to come here. Let me just say that one reason he might want to come here is this:
His Dad, Bill Polian worked for the Bills from 1984 till 1993. Chris is 38 years old. That means that Chris lived here from the time he was 13 till he left for college at John Carroll University. He went to high school at St. Francis of Athol Springs. He spent many hours hanging out at Ralph Wilson Stadium in the offices and in the locker room.
There's some degree of likelihood that he has a strong affinity for the area. Coming back to Buffalo would be a homecoming of sorts for Chris Polian.
I think that he is comfortable where he is at right now. Yeah he has spent a great deal of his later childhood and teenage years in Buffalo BUT if he is married or has kids then he has already settled his family there for quite sometime. So unless he is single odds are even a childhood attachment won't steer him here.
But I get your point of if he was going to leave the Colts one of if not his first choice would be Buffalo (Assuming his dad is OK with it even though Ralph fired him) because he grew up here. Odds are he is going to stay in a much better more stable situation in Indy (New stadium so they won't move, Hall of fame QB, move talent, familiar with the organization ect) rather then go to Buffalo where he has a lot of building to do for a teams whose future (sadly) might not be in Buffalo.
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Chris Polian and sign Tony Dungy as his coach. All agreed, right!!
Been talked about a lot but the Colts want him to take over for his father once he is suppose to retire in 2011. The Colts even by 2011 are a much better situation then Buffalo. Chris Polian has also been offered other GM jobs, so even if he wanted to step out of the comfort of the Colts organization and his fathers shadow why would he come to an organization where the owner fired his father.
In the end the guy won't come here. We are better off trying to hand over the keys to the organization to someone like Shanahan in an attempt to woo a big name coach over. Don't get me wrong I would love for the guy to come over here but it just isn't going to happen.
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Pretty much middle of the pack, as far as the #'s go...the lost starters weren't "wowing" the league, so to speak, anyways.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/injuries/pup
McGee has spent too much time taking up a roster spot without being able to suit up or get on the field. I'd try to peddle him during the off-season.
Well we have the most players on IR in the NFL according to that list (15). HOWEVER only Mitchelle, Elison, Butler, McKelvin, and Schoulman were starters (Ellison and Schoulman weren't lighting it up) and 5 were put on IR before the season started. So yeah we have been hit by injuries but its not as drastic as it may seem on the surface.
To me the real issue with this team is that it wasn't deep and a high to medium amount of injuries exposed it. The D-line didn't have many quality backups on it, the linebacking core was starting a backup from the get go in Ellison and didn't have quality backups either. The secondary was the only part of the D that seemed to be at all deep.
I think that next season we need to get depth on the front 7 (As well as the offensive line). There were tons of veteran quality D-lineman available in the offseason (Vonnie Holiday, Kevin Carter types) but we were so set on salvaging guys like McCargo and Denny. Next year we need to find quality backups unless we want to keep going at this rate of failure.
We wouldn't be dead last in the league against the run if we had Stroud, Kyle Williams, Vonnie Holiday, and Kevin Carter as our DT's and had a guy like Donnie Edwards and signed Chris Draft at the beginning of the season. Parcels did this when he got to Miami and they were a lot more professional and better for it (They won the division last year as well).
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Well I think that if it is all a mirage its not really to sell tickets. Its more of Russ and Ralph trying to look like they are doing their due diligence With the whole thing. How does interviewing coaches sell tickets if they don't get tired. To me its more of a well hire Jim Haslet or a no name coordinator but we tried to get Cower and Shanny they just didn't want to come here.
The Bills SERIOUSLY need to be careful on this one!
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I agree we don't have the starter on the roster (Brohm is the only one with potential but I doubt it) but Fitz is a good backup in the NFL plays well enough to win in short stretches but isn't a long term answer.
As for TO unless he has a monster last 6 games (Like the last 2) and we get a coach like Shanny who wants him back (And TO wants to come back) then I think his stay here is over.
A 3-4 D meh too many teams are trying to get it and since most colleges run a 4-3 its already hard to find 3-4 personnel when only 5-7 teams in the league are running it let alone when 14 (15 if we were going to run it) teams in the league are going to run it.
I like to think a more physical 4-3 would work out well. Fwell seems like he could be a good guy to run a much more physical 4-3.