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  1. Farve didnt exactly have a bad receiving crew. I took the time to list most of the more well known receivers/receiving backs that Farve was privelaged to play with from 97-97 for you.

     

    Ed West

    Edgar Bennett

    Sterling Sharpe

    Robert Brooks

    Dorsey Levens

    Mark Chmura

    Mark Ingram

    Anthony Morgan

    Don Beebe

    Antonio Freeman

    Keith Jackson

    Desmond Howard

    Andre Rison

    William Henderon

     

    Would you say any of those guys were better than Emmit Smith, Michael irving and Jay novacek its not that those guys were terrible just nothing really good

  2. I hear a lot of people down on the Bills schedule this year and I have to say that after all the reasons to be down on the Bills the schedule is not one of them.

     

    Going into last season most of us played the win loss win loss loss win game when looking at the schedule and did anyone have us losing to the Dolphins twice and beating Jacksonville at Jacksonville and San Diego? The point is that our schedule may look hard now but it won't shake out that way when its all said and done.

     

    There are always sure fire losses that turn into wins and wins that turn into losses. Because of the nature of the NFL being a league where 80% of the teams are average and pretty much just hope to get lucky with in game breaks and injuries the schedule becomes pointless as a barometer for win projection.

  3. If Docket is on the block for a package similar to what we gave up for Stroud than take him. I say a third and a sixth and if they want McCargo as a throw in than take him. I think he is that good even if it took a third and Roscoe Parrish I say make the trade. Docket and Stroud gives this defense an up the middle combo that we have needed for a long time. He is young too so it is not a flashy move either it would make sense even if you had to give up a good amount to get him.

     

    I hear a lot of well lets just get Henderson for a fourth but I don't think he is on the block at this point if he was to be traded would it have already happened. Or Henderson is available but only for the right price which begs the question if we were going to give up that much for a thirty year old DT why not just go after a player who is younger and available for almost as much? I don't think Docket is available either but it sounds more likely that a player who is disgruntled and wants more money would be available. If he is the bills should pounce and add some talent up front.

     

    But yeah the bills won't go after him at all if he wants a big contract. Than again did we expect the TO signing and the front office and coaching staff has to win now plus they got money to spend now that they don't have to show Peters the money

  4. Favre is better than Aikman. No matter how many times you analyze it.

     

    I am no favre fan but yeah its true. Aikman had talent around him all thought out his prime years. Name one big name wideout favre had during his 1994-1997 run where he had his best stats and won a super bowl and played in another. When Favre had a good o-line and Amhed Green to hand the ball off to as well as a decent receiver in Donald Driver he had another stretch run where he put up great numbers and got into the playoffs in 2001-2002 as well as 2004.

     

    Aikman had a good o-line, Emmit Smith who was better than any running back that Favre had. Michale Irving who was better than any wide receiver Favre had and Aikman had a tight end in Jay Novacek that was better than anything favre had. If you put Favre on those Cowboy teams They become a even bigger dynasty getting five to seven championships as well as being a longer dynasty. Aikman was a good qb in a great situation but I wouldn't put him in my top ten all time maybe lower top 20.

  5. Well Pickett would be an upgrade. However I would not give up any picks for him. If he were cut I would offer him some decent offer around three million not much more. He and Stroud starting is solid and getting Kyle Williams in more of a pick his spots kind of role improves him. And than Spencer Johnson is added depth and McCargo is also back in a rotational role is better. If we added Pickett our roster we would be better but not better enough to go out and give up draft picks or a huge contract for him

  6. The Pats go 12-4 with Brady and the vets added from free agency plus a solid draft pats get back to the top

    The Jets go 10-6 with a good defense a ground game they keep the pats honest and get to the playoffs but with a rookie QB they pretty much get as far as they could go.

    The Bills go 8-8 TO and a few good draft picks help the bills break the trend of 7-9 but the bad news is it was only one game and the o-line is a weakness early on.

    The Dolphins go 6-10 the step back that comes after the two steps froward.

     

    A lot of people are down on the Jets and too high on the Dolphins. As much as I hate the Jets I think that their D is good and has the right guy manning it. As far as their offense goes they will just manage the game. I think that they will take the approach the Fins had last year and try not to loose games. While thats no way to win a championship you can win games and get to the playoffs doing that philosophy.

     

    As for the bills 8-8 is only with the roster they currently have I think that there will be an addition or two before camp and if they get Levi Jones or an upgrade at linebacker than I would be more willing to go on a 9-7 prediction and if they get Henderson somehow on top of that than 10-6 would be more accurate.

     

    But yeah with what they have 8-8 is my prediction.

  7. Is that true? I wouldnt have guessed that ever.

     

    Yeah it is, I live in New Jersey and I was listing to the Max Kellerman show which if you know anything about New York New Jersey sports radio should still be on and he got that stat from the Elias Sports Bureau. I looked into it and its true. Check for your self. Think about it every time Bret is about to stage a comeback he throws a big pick that pretty much kills the come back

  8. Bret Favre is a lower top ten qb all time but still the most overrated player all time in any sport. The value he has comes from two places one his ability to stay on the field and with Trent we know how valuable that is. Second he was genuinely a great qb from 1994 to 1997 and 2001 - 2002 as well as 2004 and 2007. His prime years and that record are what catapult him into that top ten status.

     

    But Favre is one guy who should not be near the top five. Since 2002 he has been overrated he was a good qb who faded into an average one and the one last good year he had in 2007 ( his last year with green bay ) was the year his team asked him to manage the game. Favre was loved by the media and for good reason up until these last few years where his dickish nature was revealed he seemed like a really nice guy.

     

    But that love was what made him overrated towards the end of his career he started to fade and balls that he would have jammed in for a TD were now being intercepted but the media would write it off saying it was the receiver's fault or that he was just trying to make things happen and it didn't pan out. He should have retired in 2004 or 2007 off of good years

     

    As for all those records for TD's and yards he had those because he hung around three to four years too many. That year the Packers went 4-12 and he threw 30 picks he was just sad and than the next year when the Packers went 8-8 he looked like a second year qb who was just average.

     

    Once again not saying bret is not a great qb but there are about nine or eight qb's that I would take before him thats all. I don't want a guy who has never at any point in a game never come back from a 14 point hole ever in his career.

  9. Well of course they are going to say that. No team is ever going to say well he sucks and we will be lucky if he is an average blocker. I think that nelson with given time to add some muscle to his frame and work at blocking could become a good blocker at best very good. but as for this year i think if he turns into a respectable blocker by the second half of the season than i will be happy

     

    So yeah a team is going to have a good maybe even inflated view of their own talent. Now if another team or scout from another team said that than thats a headline

  10. You know the vikings qb situation is bad when a 40 year old washed up bret farve who is coming off of surgery is by far a better option than all of the qb's on their roster. If i were a vikes fan i would want bret but as a game manager much like he was in his last year at green bay when they were one game away from the super bowl

  11. OK, How can a Bills fan be happy with what we see, our team is a train wreck!

    1) "O" line is a disaster.. Our center was never an NFL starter, our projected guards are both rookies.. One tackle was a guard last year and the other tackle is OK at best

    2) Our #1 pick was projected as a late first rounder.. He played 1 year of college and has a skillset of Chris Ellis.

    3) Our second round pick was a CB to be converted into a safety..

    4) Our rookie TE is a 4th rnd pick.. If he was a second rnd pick he would have been drafted in rnd 2 or maybe 3rd.. Hard to believe he'll make a difference.

     

    Other factors'; we lose an all-pro T, we have no decent left lb, we have an unproven QB, oh yes, the Bills tiks will sell and sell and we'll miss the playoffs AGAIN.. another prediction after an 0-3 start, jauron will say to be "patient" because the line is unfamiliar with each other and Trent isn't used to T.O... We finish 3-13, "changes" are made, we sell out AGAIN etc. etc. etc.

     

    I hope I'm wrong, but the above makes a lot of sense to me IMO.

     

    Yeah thats pretty much the worst case scenario. But every team in the NFL with the exception of the Pats and Steelers pretty much have a series of off season moves that can go wrong. Just look at the jets they could get old fast and their offense has a rookie qb and no targets and their o-line has a few injury risk on it with no real depth.

     

    The Dolphins have that similar doomsday scenario. What if Joey Porter gets old and the rest of the defense follows suit. They invested too much in their secondary. and their qb is a walking injury waiting to happen. and they have no wide receivers and the league catches up to the wildcat. Every team can go 3-13 or 11-5 its just what goes right and what goes wrong. Its the Nfl most teams are mid level teams who pretty much count on the luck of the draw.

  12. The DT position is a position of Concern. Stroud is a stud but he is a year older so the possibility for injury and a decline in play are higher. As for the rest of the DT's on the team they seem to be nothing to inspire confidence. Williams seems better suited for situational playing and McCargo and Johnson seem like they are average at best.

     

    I think it was just wishful thinking to think Henderson would be traded for a fourth or even a third. He would have been a real force but it looks like that rumor was just pulled out of the sky.

  13. I hate when people look at the schedule and do win loss win and than put a cap on wins. There are always two to three games you put as a sure fire win that suddenly become hard games. And than you look at two to three sure fire loses and they turn into wins.

     

    did anyone at the beginning of last season think we would have lost to Miami twice or beat Jacksonville at Jacksonville and San Diego . So I don't put much stock into using a schedule to rate wins and loses I just take a look at my roster and the division rivals and see who is the best or where the bills rank. And right now I see the bills right around the Jets and Fins but still short of the Pats

  14. Nelson seems almost to good to be true. There has to be a reason he was drafted so late. Teams don't just not draft a guy because they forgot he is on the board. Most mocks had him penciled in as high as between pick 20 and pick 30 of the second round. No one really thought he would fall past the early third round but there has to be a reason for such a fall all the way to the fourth round.

     

    Is it his blocking or his body type. Is there an injury that this kid had that we do not know about? I think there is something we are not seeing as at least a concern with Nelson.

  15. I wounder if DJ would have been fired if Gruden was fired earlier than he was. I think the reason DJ wasn't fired was a result of both his contract extension and not a whole lot of good options as head coaching candidates out there. If you look at who was hired this off season the only coach hired with head coaching experience was Mangini.

     

    I think if Gruden was available a little earlier they would have pulled the trigger and hired him he won a SB playing the D we play right now.

  16. Yeah tight ends usually have decent numbers their rookie year and than explode in their second or third year. There have been exceptions to the rule like Jeremy Shockey who had great numbers his rookie year. But a tight end is not like a WR were they take a while to develop but they are not like some positions were a rookie can come in a put up monster numbers right away.

     

    With Nelson I don't want to sound like a downer but I won't expect much form him his rookie year. I would think that if he got 25-45 receptions than I would be celebrating that. I think that he needs to be a role player for the offense as far as receiving goes and focus on blocking and running routs at a pro level. Than in his second year he needs to become an average to above average blocker and than take that step up to become a good receiving tight end. Nelson seems like by year two he will be above average and on the rise and than by year three he needs to come in and be a top flight tight end

  17. I think the o-line will be a real problem next year, but with future potential. We will miss Peters, and moving Walker to LT weakens both tackle positions. Wood and Levitre may become very good players, but it is unreasonable to assume that they both will be strong starters next year since they are inexperienced and will be learning new positions. With Peters, Dockery, Fowler/Preston and Royal all departing, there will a lot of new faces on the o-line next year, and they will need time to develop and gel. Unfortunately, our offense may be stymied while they try to do so.

     

    I think that the bills will miss Peters a lot but Guard is one of the few positions that a rookie can step in and produce. Over the years I have seen a lot of teams spend high picks on guards ( low first and early second round picks ) and those players have contributed right away. BUT this oline has two returning starters and maybe no one returning at their positions from the previous year. An oline usually takes 2 full seasons playing together to gel completely into a unit and its hard for any o line to incorporate 2 new starters let alone 3 and move around the other 2 starters to new spots.

  18. I don't think that if this team goes 7-9 again it would be an improvement at all. Last years 7-9 was an improvement over the previous year but we can't see it that way this year. The reason being TO if we go 7-9 this year than we are out a talented WR and don't forget another possible hole at corner when/if McGee leaves. Basically we can't just hope for 7-9 or 8-8 and say well this year was much harder than the year before because for once we have 2 pro bowl caliber receivers and a pro bowl caliber running back, and we invested two day one picks on the o-line and two day one picks on the defense including our first rounder.

     

    I think that its win now for the bills and if they go in with what they have now 7-9 would be a complete failure and I hope the front office sees it that way. I also think that unless the team makes the playoffs or wins 10 games than DJ should be fired and Gruden or some other coach with a SB ring should step in.

  19. Yeah every team has a bunch of ifs on it mainly if a team can stay healthy. But the big thing to consider is have we gotten better than the teams in our division? The Dolphins I think will come down to Earth a bit and the Jets D is better but their offense has gotten worse. The pats get Brady back plus draft and free agent additions. I also think you are overestimating the impact that nelson could have. There is a reason he feel to the fourth round

  20. Assuming that no major pieces get added to the roster are the bills as presently constructed a better team than last years bills team was going into last season? Overall I feel this team is better by a small margin but is that enough?

     

    I feel that the defense is better but by a little margin. Maybin should inject some help into the pass rush and Byrd and Florence added to the secondary should compensate for the loss of Greer. Mcelvin getting a year under his belt should also improve the secondary. But overall this D is just one maybe two players better than last years. You also have to factor in that Stroud our best D lineman is one year older.

     

    The offense to me has gotten better but by a moderate amount. Trent having another year under his belt is a step up but that gets negated by the fact that his injury concerns are even greater now. The addition of TO is a huge step up. Nelson at tight end right now seems like a very small step up (he is replacing a guy who pro football prospectus called one of the worst starters in the NFL at any position) but he is so unproven that you can't count him as much more than that. The running back situation is a slight step down because of Lynch's suspension.

     

    The O line is better but by a modest margin. Wood and that new center from Carolina (can't think of his name feel free to tell me) are good upgrades. Assuming Butler plays RT and Levetrie plays RG the right side is about the same as last years. Now LT is hard to judge because Peters at his best is better than Walker but last year Peters was at his worst for most of the season so I will say that Walker is a moderate step down at the most important o line position.

     

    Is upgrading a 7-9 team by a small margin enough or has the division gotten better than us. I feel that in 2007 we were a over achieving team that suffered a huge amount of injuries but feasted off two weak rivals in our division. So after that season we added people in the draft and in free agency/trades and we were 7-9 but had we would have been a whole lot worse had we not done those additions. Now after another 7-9 season have we upgraded our roster enough to make the playoffs? I think we finish 8-8 or 9-7 once again assuming there are no roster moves done.

  21. I wanted orakpo but I see the logic of this pick. Maybin looks like he is an undersized speed rusher to me but he added like 20 plus pounds to his frame before the draft. Now that is either a really good or bad sign. Its bad if it means he can't play at his usual speed and that he is at best a one tool guy which is not worth the 11th pick even if that one tool is really good.

     

    The weight gain is a really good sign if it means that he can play at his usual speed but with that weight. It also is good because that means that he has a good work ethic and can add another 15 to 25 pounds to his build over the next two or so years and become a Jason Taylor like player.

     

    Orakpo to me looks like a guy who is either a Shawn Merriman type or a Vernon Gholston. The scouts over thought the Merriman pick and San Diego who had the Giants pick thanks to that Eli Manning trade took him because he was a beast in college and his body type projected that way in the pros. Orakpo could also be a Gholston type in that he looks good but may not know how to succeed when he is challenged by players he can't simply dominate physically like he did in college. He also comes from a program where guys don't always have a good understanding of the mental dedication to the pro game.

     

    Orakpo and Maybin are boom or bust picks but I feel that the bills wanted to go with a situation they had more control over. Orakpo will be a bust because of injury or physical skills needing mental polish. Maybin is a guy who they feel they can fix his problems because his problems are more workable.

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