billsfan89

The Bills needed a nickel CB so I don't hate the pick, but I would have went with O-line, the team's big trade ups were going to lead to a roster that was compromised in certain areas. Hopefully for Buffalo they can find some veteran players to fill those needs.

In the mid to late rounds you have to just acquire the most talented players on the board. That's how you build the best team. A 4th to 7th round pick isn't likely to come in and start so reaching for a need is useless. Just take the best players on the board at that point. That's how you build a deep roster. Hopefully one of the top 3 players on your board fit a need but you shouldn't reach at all at this point in the draft.

Kelsay was a good role player, a good 3rd DE rotational type player. The hate from fans seems to stem from the fact that he got overpaid by the Bills twice for some reason. The Bills weren't getting zero production out of him but rather they weren't getting anywhere close to the production needed considering his salary.

In 2018 I am not sure the Bills will have better QB play. McCarron vs. Tyrod could go either way, I think Tyrod is proven to be a pretty capable player but McCarron has potential to work better out of the pocket. Allen is a very raw rookie and will likely need a year to grasp the offense and work on his footwork. So long term the Bills have a possible answer at QB but short term it might not work out.

Durability concerns, maybe some character issues as well? I also think that it is possible that the Bills simply liked Josh Allen more? Allen has the best are we have seen in a long time, Allen is big and durable, Allen has some speed, and Allen seems to be a bright kid with good character. Yes, his accuracy and footwork are a concern. But if you are a QB under duress constantly with bad WR's in an offense with less high percentage throws those issues do have a context.

Unless I am missing something Josh Allen's QB rating in college was 137.7 with a 44 to 21 TD to INT ratio. Completion percentage was relatively low but Allen was pretty productive for what its worth.

NFL coaches can now communicate with the QB until 10 seconds before the snap. I feel like with that new development in QB play (which helped Goff out tremendously this past season) players with big time physical tools like Allen will have a greater chance of success.

This pick to me is a sign that they like AJ McCarron more than we think. Allen can chill at least 1 year behind AJ and work on his fundamentals and grasp the system. The team gets a full look at AJ for a year and gives Allen some time to ruminate and grow. In 2019 they can reevaluate both players, see if AJ is anything more than a backup or if Allen is ready. The team will have plenty of cap space and a new draft class in 2019 to fill needs and build a complete roster. I would have preferred Rosen but I think you play to win and if Allen pans out he could be a top 10 QB, to me if Rosen pans out he is an upper mid-level QB.

The accuracy numbers on Allen are a huge concern but some of Allen's completion percentage is explained by the nature of his offense (more downfield throws less high completion percentage throws like screens and shovel passes) and the nature of Allen's receivers not being that good. I think the reason he was scouted well despite the completion percentage was these other factors. I still would have preferred Rosen but I don't hate Allen all things considered.

If Edmunds pans out who cares they gave up pick 65 (And got back a mid 5th) but just in philosophy I hate a trade up for a non-QB.

Sometimes the fans are right, hell with the Bills in the past (Esp during the Jauron era) seemed to be correct more than the people in charge. Everyone knew at the time the picks were made Maybin over Orakpo was moronic, the CJ Spllier pick was stupid, Whitner over Nagata was bad, and McCargo over Mangold was insane. But this coaching staff has seemingly made good decisions with personnel moves more often than not. People bitched at the Dawkins trade up and Dawkins had a great rookie year. People were upset Sammy was traded but most people would rather have had that 2nd round pick, EJ Gaines, and not having to pay Sammy 16+ million to keep him.

It's not dark at all, but I think that the players available at pick 22 would have been really good and they still would have had pick 65 to find another player at a position of need. I think they got the best player available but I think it was smarter to just stay where you were and keep pick 65.

It's not an exact science for sure but I think there is a lot of arrogance among fans esp with the internet where people think the information they get off of websites is as good as what professional scouting staffs have. But no matter what picks thought to be "good" will be busts and "Busts" will end up being great players.

Allen is out of central casting for a QB, but of course his accuracy is suspect which scares me. Maybe sitting a year behind AJ can polish up his mechanics and he kills it. The Bills needed a QB and they went out and got one.

I am not a fan of the trade up considering they now don't have a pick until 96. I like the position as this team had no LB's but dam this team is going to be seriously flawed.

I like the pick considering the fairly lowish cost to get him (Keeping 22 and not giving away any 2019 picks) but Allen is so risky with his accuracy. But large kid, cannon arm, and some factors in college certainly kept his completion percentage down (lower amounts of throws and bad WR's.) He also is a high character player with a smoke show of a girlfriend. I hope he works out, but man they need to find some more WR's and they only have pick 96 up next.

Get your QB, throw AJ to the wolves (Which even if the Bills trade a good amount of picks they should still have at least 2 premium picks to address other needs like grabbing a guard and a WR so it's not like there isn't other picks to address other needs) and see what happens in 2018. But if you have a QB in place you can figure out the rest of the team much easier. It's a lot harder to find a QB than it is a pair of guards, a WR, and a RT. The Bills will have a draft class in 2019 and a **** load of cap space to plug in some other needs around a QB. But if they don't find a QB they won't have any shot at sustained success.

My hope is Barkley is taken by the Giants, that puts pick 4 into play. I wouldn't hate giving up 12, 22, and a 2nd next year for pick 4 for Josh Allen, but Rosen or Darnold is worth that large commitment of picks. I think for the Browns that trade makes sense too. They take their QB at 1, Barkley isn't there at 4, so Chubb or picks 12, 22, and a 2nd next years sets the table for them with 2019's draft (they would have two second round picks and two third-round picks.) I think I would rather have picks 12 and 22 plus a 2nd in 2019 than Chubb at pick 4. The Bills need their QB badly the Browns would already have their QB and then get a chance to get another haul of picks.

Freddy by the numbers might not be eye-popping (he had 4 really good seasons and 2-3 other productive ones) but he was a true underdog who played his heart out and got the most out of his ability. In an era where there wasn't much to root for Freddy was a player that you always enjoyed watching. Fred is a beloved player for good reason and certainly worthy of the honor.

The only concern about the Bills pass rush situation is there isn't a clear-cut dominant pass rusher on the roster. It's a grab bag of players that could be good but no one you can feel confident in to be a 10 or even close to 10 sack guy. Hughes is a bit older and his QB hits and pressures were down last season. Lorax was misused in 2017 hopefully in 2018 as a pure pass rusher he rebounds, but he will also be 35 which is a concern. Shaq set the edge against the run well but has been hurt a lot and hasn't broken out as a pass rusher, hopefully he breaks out. Murphy was the big addition to help the pass rush in free agency but he is coming off a big injury. They signed that former 3rd round pick from the Giants too he is a good take a flyer type player. All of the Bills pass rushers have huge concerns but they all also have potential to be productive. I think they are likely going to see what pans out from the current players and then address it next off-season.

I feel like the Bills are going with quantity over quality on the pass rush front. They have Shaq, Hughes, Lorax, and Murphy and a few other players they seem to be taking a chance on and just hoping 1-2 of them have good seasons and they can cobble together a pass rush. Considering the resources so far this off-season I think it isn't a bad strategy.

I wouldn't mind a 12+22, and a 3rd next year for Rosen at 6. The Bills land a top QB prospect, keep most of their draft capital in 2019 (I think you can live with not having a 3rd esp considering you have 2 4th round picks), and still have picks 53, 56, 65, and 96 to fill other needs. I think for the Colts you set the table with picks 12, 22, 36, 37, 49, and 67 while having extra picks in the 2nd and 3rd next year. That's a haul of picks in 2 consecutive draft classes.

Arm strength isn't about launching the ball 60 yards down the field. Arm strength is about how quickly you can get the ball to the sideline and in the intermediate range. Any QB worthy of making an NFL roster can launch the ball 50 yards or more in the air. But what separates the best from backups is how strong a QB's arm is and how accurate their throwing is along with their decision making and footwork.

A dominant pass rushes causes all sorts of issues for offenses and makes every aspect of your defense that much better. If you have an excellent pass rushes all you need is a handful of other good defensive players to have playoff caliber defense. A WR and LT are too dependent on a QB to be successful and a RB has a short shelf life. The Browns had Joe Thomas one of the best Left Tackles of all time and because he had no one of quality to protect they never had more than 1 winning season with JT. Calvin Johnson never sustained any success until Stafford came along. A lock down corner is a weapon but has limited impact in the ground game. I think a dominant pass rushes that also sets an edge in the ground attack really is a lynchpin to any defense.

You can find the rest of the team much easier than you can find a QB. That's the bottom line. You can spend decades chasing a QB while if Left Guard is an issue you can always put a bit more resources to find much easier. Teams don't go decades looking for a good Left Guard. Get your QB, hopefully, it comes at a good cost where you have 3 or more premium picks left over to fill some other needs. But don't be stingy with picks when it comes to getting a QB. My ideal scenario is Rosen, Allen, and Darnold go top 3. Mayfield (even Rosen or Darnold would be good, just not a fan of Allen) falls to pick 4 and the Bills scoop in and get him for picks 12, 22, a late round pick, and a 2nd next year. The 2nd next year isn't easy to lose but you have to pay a premium to get a QB. 12 and 22 are OK as that amounts to filling your biggest need on the roster. Toss in a late pick to sweeten the deal and you get a top QB prospect while still having picks 53, 56, 65, and 96 to fill some other holes on the roster. The Browns would get their QB at pick 1 then have 12, 22, 33, 35, and 64 (while also adding a late round pick) to fill out the rest of their roster. Next years draft would also be set up nicely having two 3rd round picks (Danny Shelton trade) and an extra 2nd. The Browns could have a dynasty with 2 good draft classes and some of last years draft class panning out (not to mention tons of cap space.) McCarron can be an effective game manager and keep you in games if your defense is good (Which if they can find 1 good linebacker and get some luck via pass rush the defense should be solid.) I would rather have a young high potential QB in place learning the system for a year and some other hole on the roster than a roster that's better overall but lacks a coherent future at QB. As you said there is a windfall of cap space that could be used to fill 2 or more needs with high-end players if issues are that big. But finding a QB is and should be the top priority for the team.