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I don't see this great appeal for Von Miller. He seems like a merc, for one. His schtick has been and remains something of a circus and presenting more fanfare than is necessary.

outside the vacuum you are 100% correct. Kincaid is going to be a difference maker on this team. McKenzie was more valuable than Harty & Sheffield. I do not think Harty or sheffield can live up to McKenzie's contributions here and would absolutely shocked if either puts up a single 100 yard game in their buffalo career. harty - 64 catches - 793 yards - avg 16 for 198 yards/season sherfield - 67 catches - 844 yards - avg 13.5 for 169/season mckenzie - 141 catches - 1345 yards - 23 avg for 224/season ... but mckenzie in buffalo - 137 catches - 1316 yards - 27 catches for 263 yards/season why is it sherfield or harty are going to magically surpass mckenzie when he has double their catches, and accounts for 28% less than the two of them combined in yards? plus, 230 career yards rushing. harty - 4 yr career 9 fumbles mckenzie - 6 yr career 10 fumbles sherfield 0 fumbles

We peaked week 1 and were atop of the world week 2. Id even argue week 3 we were still kings. We were still solid until we got to green bay. And that's when we fell flat on our face.

I don't disagree but at least he did put up the front. Too many dudes didn't even puff up after some ***** last year. Especially against cinci No, he was a bully and a cheese puff. That other OL back a while ago, went to Dallas after I think was the same thing. Saffold, too. They're not tough or hard. But Feliciano would backup his teammates

Good. Tired of candy ass sissies. Lawson brings energy. We need some of that intensity and energy on offense. We haven't had that since feliciano

I think you're marvelous. Really. You're going to look ridiculous when he is all pro, super bowl MVP and cures cancer.

I don't think he has his best season in 2022. Likely due to poor communication and cohesiveness with non-Hyde/Poyer players

See. You're starting to get it. Good job.

He seemed to struggle later in the season

ok, for all the names you listed being at your perception of below average in a 10 year career i can say - travis kelce, kirk cousins, etc guy who is in league 10 years and kicking butt... because if we simply look at the 10 year playing average thats all we need to do - - but in this case, klein's 10 year career has been a starter for much of his career. he is respected as an nfl player, he can coach on the sideline, is a process guy, and offers a higher floor than guys offer as a ceiling. further, i didn't say that every player who's been there 10 years. we are talking about aj klein. remain focused. since you didn't like my response earlier, i tried to warm it up and be more colorful to help you understand. i went on to say that i never qualified him with a level of play saying that he is not below average, he would be above average. stats back that up because most players last 3 or 4 years. that's a simple qualifier to that data. plus, he's started. a lot. but... again, i never said what quality i offer his play. did i? please check. i forgot. all of these colors are distracting me. they're pretty. but i'm not heated. purple isn't even a hot color and here is where it gets fun. our defitinions vary by opinion. i view him as above average because - by your rule and others - spector is on the roster and therefore must be good despite being inactive many games. klein was on the roster even less of a time and active as many games and has more defensive snaps % than him. so...so your red herring defense is turned on its head and straw manned. i don't care about PFF grades, they end up having people who knows alittle baout football as my newborn rating some of these lesser known guys. and i think they're trash. and since you'll bring up that nfl teams use them - they sure do, but we do not know to what extent. i mean, if they only went off of pff then why is klein even in the league at a 46 something? i want a league ran by madden scores!!!!! my hostility isn't hostility. don't take me so serious. but if oyu're going to come at me because i differ with an opinion of yours with such a staunch stance i'm giong to refute it. klein is from wisconsin. he was a highly successful track athlete with an 11.8 100m dash. he was used a lot in his young career as a coverage backer. his speed hasn't held, and he was never as fast as other nfl LB's. a 4.66 40 out of the college combine after he continued to grow likely didn't assist here. sooo. i guess you don't know anything about that, but i'm glad i could help. facts are beautiful and today you learned klein is from wisconsin. what would you like to learn next?

The secondary is interesting because we have reinvested into injured players: Hamlin, Hyde, Poyer. I like Marlowe more than most but am happy we have Rapp as insurance. My trepidation in the secondary is the regression of Taron Johnson later in the season. We play nickel primarily. We cannot afford poor play here and while Neal could be a nickel on most teams and start - being a nickel player 60% of the time isn't for him. In Johnson we must trust. The LB unit is downgraded losing Edmunds. On paper it's major, as you noted. With better coverage on the DL adding Floyd, Puna, and Expenesa potentially breaking through will help. I think the dark horse is WR. I think it will be equal to last year. I don't see enough improvement on paper right now.

Gosh you're adorable. So, logic is something that we can work on. Grab your planet fitness card, brah, cuz we gonna get a workout on. See, by me declaring that I believe Klein is not below average it doesn't mean I think he is above average. It means I think he's not below average. He could be average, excellent, terrible, anything in my opinion. But that opinion isnt linked to the process of critical thinking I am exercising. Mutual exclusive doesn't mean it can only be one or the other. My statement is simply that he is not below average after serving 10 years in the capacity of an NFL linebacker. Now that we are warmed up, calisthenics! We gonna stretch that mind out. In the modern NFL there are very few if any complete NFL MLB. It's a demanding position to be able to stuff a run, read a QB, and cover a TE, shadow a RB, and keep up with a slot WR. So, while Klein is not able to keep up with many receiving threats he is smart and capable of not losing position. He, like many - almost all - MLB's lack the full toolbox that would be perfect. This is a major factor to consider he is above average - he's smart, he can shed blocks, he can move through traffic without getting caught up in the scrum Now that we are good and warmed up and properly stretched. Here is a big load to bare. Opinions can vary, don't have to match, and can be discussed... Then people can disagree! Novel concept! If you'd like a cool down I can further discuss how Klein started in Wisconsin and through his young career the speed he lacked was sufficient to play in the NFL in that era (7-10 years ago). Or I can explain how in this system the 1/11 of the responsibility of the player does not mean Klein has to be all pro to be a contributor. McDermott can get a lot out of LB's. He did this with Thompson, and before Milano with Davis. I can make this a master class if you'd like. I have time...

a guy playing in the nfl for 10 consecutive seasons is below average? AJ will be on the active roster because he can play all 3 linebacker positions, is a playing coach, and a leader on the team.

When you figure it out let me know. I haven't seen 1 bit of difference.

I am judging his 2022 season on his pre season play This is also true

If leodis wears one would he become a road scholar?

Let's play a game: 1) NFL staff kept him on the roster all year: fact 2) they saw him as disciplined: unknown 3) they saw he was developmental: unknown (likely.... obviously true) 4) they wouldn't have put him on the roster: unknown (see Jaquan Johnson and Bobby Hart). We do not know what the coaches thought. Perhaps because he was deemed coachable he was deemed worthwhile as a project. We don't know what they think. Zoomers don't understand empirical fact anymore. It's weird. In preseason I watched him. Some woman near us in Carolina was friends with him in college so I paid attention and rewatched some pre season games when I had nothing else to do in September.

Opinions vary

I like that you use that word patience. I think that sums up what I did not see last year, and it might be confusing to some. His hustle to the ball was genuine, but it seemed like he broke out of assignments, lost discipline on the overall scheme, and just played more like a backyard style ball that an actual piece of this defense. Is built to be a symbiotic unit. As strong as their weakest link in every sense of the term. Losing Gap integrity, tell Richard responsibility, and the vision needed to play middle linebacker in this defense is very costly. This is something that people jumped all over Edmunds about but he is truly an athletic freak that allowed him to recover with not just his size but his quickness to react. The sharper I always criticized that he was too late to react or recognize the place. Anyway, time will tell. And I hope I'm wrong. It's not like seeing preseason action of this guy last year is 100% the story but I am a pessimist in this regard

rule 34 must be imposed.

oh i get it but the uuntrained eye did not like milano and still swooned over edmunds who was routinely lost. i wish i'd have kept the comment marked when i dared say milano was going to outplay edmunds and more valuable and important than edmunds. i was raked over coals. i don't buy into a lot of preseason reports. he did not have a good preseason by my untrained eye. making plays as he did last preseason doesn't mean he was doing his assignemnts and playing well. he didn't look impressive last year

maybe i mispoke. that dotson couldn't hold his own weight last year and was not-so-good isn't a good indicator of what spector was - and i don't believe a 7th round player can have that much breakthrough talent in year two at a position like mlb. milano was an entirely different player. i remember after edmunds rookie year getting blasted that milano was going to be the better player by a mile even though edmunds and his position was more important at his position on the defense.

He just didn't move my needle. 🤷🏼‍♂️ That he couldn't handle it, and Spector didn't find time there was telling. But by those points in the game/season we were struggling. I forgot who else was out for those games. Nah, I know defense.

i didn't think so. he was making plays but while he passed the eye test he didn't pass the sniff test. he didn't seem to be diagnosing very fast, making the initial first steps, reads and routes. he was a man amongst midgets on scout team.

Spector ain't it. He looked lost last year in PS. I hope I'm wrong. Dotson is solid, has potential for a stop gap at the least but is capable of starting. Klein is capable of starting, smart, and able to mesh with the defense. Bernard ia a wildcard The rookie dude starting this year terrified me.