Magox
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Man!!
What a bunch of unreasonable, sour, bitter Babies!!!!!!
The Bottom line is his talent warrants him to be $10Million + a season.
If we don't pay him, someone else will.
And guess what? he will be at least a 5 time future probowler and a 2 time ALL Pro Tackle.
and I can just see it. We will be stuck with a mediocre LT for the next 5 years, constantly having our qb blind side sacked, searching for that precious LT that we were bitching about for close to a decade before Peters came.
What a short memory you guyz have
Get a friggin clue, some of your arguments are, he "should get a job elsewhere, work a real job, and complaining about the economy"
PALEEEEEESE!!!
Stop it!!
What world do you guyz live in?????
This is the NFL, and he is top talent, and most teams will value his talent.
I hope that the Bills don't even consider looking for a trade. Now of course, if a trade offer, that is too good to be true, is offered, then take it. But don't look to trade him.
The Bills FO has leverage on this deal. Offer him $10 Million with incentives that could make him the highest paid lineman. If he doesn't take it, then it will be his and our loss. We will get a player that MAY hold out and most likely not play as well as we would hope.
But most likely he will take the deal. Think about it.
We have the leverage. He can either take the deal, and instead of making $4Million a year he will make at least %150 more, or not take the deal and make the $4million.
He would be screwing himself by at least $13 Million over the next two years.
WE HAVE THE LEVERAGE!!
As long as we don't actively shop him.
The deal will get done!!
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the three of them should all go and get a couple of hookers together.that will bring them together real fast.
Ya, well they better do it outside of Buffalo
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I think they've hedged their bets that those players like June and Keiaho will receive little further interest (being T2 LB's) and the front office can get them for less by making them wait. Frankly, they're gambling on so much this offseason. The LB and LG positions are wide open, with no one starting quality on the roster. If they think they'll get some bargain or start a mid round player, it's not the solution.
With needs at DE, TE, interior OL, OLB, and LB depth, that's a lot heading into the wilderness of FA and the draft.
excellent point!
The LB's you named most likely are not receiving too much love in FA, and every day that passes, the lower their value becomes. As far as interior lineman are concerned, I'm hoping that they are working on a deal with KC regarding Waters.
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Whats even crazier is that the Bills are offering $8.5 Million a year. That is ridiculous!!
Some people on this board were thinking that he was demanding $13.5 Million a year.
$11.5 Million a year is a reasonable asking price from Peters. That makes his offer slightly higher than Jake Long's, who is not as accomplished.
I would imagine if they offered a deal of around $10 Million a year and add incentives to where he could receive another $1 Million they could hammer out a deal.
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God Knows that they (they being Trent, T.O and Lee Evans) will need lots of time to get that cohesion going.
I'm glad he's in town and ready to go.
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I kind of feel bad for Hardy on this one. A high draft pick coming off a disappointing rookie season with a major knee injury to boot and the media is creating this controversy. Doesn't help that they didn't, you know, ask him for his stance on the matter. Seems in the one interview I saw that he didn't really give a crap about the number. I mean, this guy has been playing football his whole life and has only worn #81 all year. Now people around the country are learning his name from the wrong reasons. It's a joke.
Hardy seems like a young kid, that is eager and willing to learn. I don't believe that he has any problems in giving up his number for a future Hall of Famer in T.O.
T.O is the best thing that could of happend to Hardy at this stage of his career. He will get to watch and observe from another Big receiver, and learn how to use his hands off the line of scrimmage, move into space and etc.
This will be a good thing for Hardy's development
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Wow, so this is what the media is like. For us Bills fan, we knew TO was getting his numbers days ago. It was no big deal, the Bills gave it to him without asking, and it was done. Maybe Hardy would get some money for the change, but once again, no big deal.
You check any media outlet today, and people are already saying how the TO Days have begun in Buffalo. How he was quoted as saying "81 is mine." Well yeah, that's what happens when we give him the number...it becomes his.
Also, while I love PTI, they came off like dullards today. They made it seem like TO was making all kinds of demands and they can't believe the drama has already started and now the Bills will have to deal with Hardy. They even said the Bills could cut him. Cut our second year WR?!?! These guys really had no idea what they were talking about and making a story just off a single half-quote.
If this is the level of research the Media is going to perform and this is the way they are going to respond to ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, then you have to wonder how many times this has happened before.
ya, it was pretty silly, i saw that too
goes to show you that they really don't know shid
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Good for Hardy
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Kiper sucks
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From most likely to least likely
1. Schobel
2. Draft
3. Ellis (even though I have no idea what he brings to the table other than hope)
4. Kelsay/Denny
5. FA
not looking to good at this point
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If I knew that there was no way that Peters would sign the contract we are offering and that he would hold out, then I'd accept their 2 1st round picks.
I would pick
#11 Pettigrew
#21 English
#28 Ebbon Britton
#42 Duke Robinson
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This was about 3 years ago right before the Eagles were about to play New England in the Super Bowl. TO was in Baltimore getting his leg checked out there so he could play.
A friend of mine's whose mom was a nurse there said she was in the room when they were running tests. He told me the doctors asked him if he "smoked" or did any drugs (standard stuff I guess)....and apparently T.O. replied ..."yeah I smoke DB's". The doctors puzzled looked at eachother and said what? T.O then clarified and said "Defensive Backs"
I have no idea if that story is true, but my buddy has never lied to me, and is a pretty honest guy.
GO BILLS!!
funny stuff
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First off I don't want him with the #11 pick.
But, I will say this about Andre Smith.
going into the combine, he was the considered by most analysts as the #1 O Lineman.
What has changed between now and then?
Well, he didn't participate at the combine, and was out of shape. Redflags
Two, we now have seen his manboobs.
Ok, I will let you guyz in on a secret. his manboobs didn't all of a sudden just grow. I'm pretty sure he has had them for a while now.
Bottom line, when he has been out on the fooball field, he's been dominant.
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With Ko Simpsons Millions and Pacman's Raining dollars, I see a party gettin started.
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Just a year ago, several of us (including me) were excited about what he will do in his first full season and boy was it under-whelming. I choose to be un-excited this time around.
underwhelming!
Your expectations obviously were unrealistic for a first full year qb.
I've done the checking, and I suggest you do the same if you want to make a fair comparative analysis. If you look back at qb's in their first full year, he has a higher qb rating, Win Loss, Yards per attempt, completion percentage and Int. % than most qb's in their first full year.
Specially considering all the awesome talents we had last year on offense. We had Jason Peters who didn't perform well. We had Josh Reed as our #2 receiver. We had Royal at TE. You expected him to do much better in his first full year with those weapons? LOL
Talk about unrealistic
Qb's in their second full year usually do much better than their first full year.
Try being realistic
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No I didn't......but I have noticed many posters claim they have.....so I thought I'd go through the games & see for myself.
I imagine most QBs will perform better in good conditions rather than bad(obviously)......the question then becomes.....does TE perform at a more reduced level in cold weather compared to other QBs?
It looks like you(and others) focus on wins rather than QB performance......I'm less inclined to do that as there are many, many factors that come into determining win/loss.....not just QB ability.
That being said.....here are the cold(and/or windy) games TE has played.
As far as I can tell.....
There have been 4 games in his career with horrendous conditions or extreme cold.
2007 CLE(L): 30 degrees with 32+mph winds. Both QBs on the day fared pretty much the same.....played very poorly.
2007 NYG(L): 52 deg. with 23+mph winds.....against the SB winning team. Edwards outperformed Manning.
2008 DEN(W): 17 deg. TE had good day & outperformed Cutler.
2008 NE(L): 39 deg. 30-40mph winds. Edwards outperformed Cassel.
In terms of cold......what is the benchmark for a cold day?
For the sake of argument I am selecting 50degrees and under.....not including SF as he did not finish that game.....or the 4 games mentioned above.
2007 WASH(W): 40 deg. TE had good day & outperformed Campbell.
2007 MIA(W): 30 deg. Big day for TE(4TDs).....outperformed Lemon.
2007 PHI(L): 42 deg. Bad day for TE.....outperformed by McNabb
2008 NYJ(L): 49 deg. Decent day for TE(79QBR)....at least on par with Favre on the day.
2008 CLE(L): 30 deg. Very bad day for TE.
2008 KC(W): 50 deg. Very good day for TE(4TDs)
In looking at his results, I can't see the argument about the weather.
In the 4 horrendous condition days, he played as well or better than his opponent QBs......as he did in most of his 'cold' games. His win/loss in the cold is basically 50/50.....as were his performances.
Maybe someone can enlighten me as to where he is worse in the cold compared to most QBs because I certainly can't see it.
Great Research!!
that must of taken some time to put together.
For someone who has had only one full season under his belt, I think he has shown that there is a lot of promise he brings to the table.
You know, I was thinking the same thing the other day about how Trent doesn't play well in these terrible conditions and I even posted something about it. I seem to remember, just as you have brought up in your research, that Trent outperformed many of the other qb's in those same games.
I mean, it is difficult for anyone to pass in 30- 40 mph winds.
I'm excited to see what Trent does in his second full season.
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I like the Buffalorumblings site as well. Guy makes a lot of sense.
Raji LOVING IT!! Maybin HATING IT!! Unger mmmm . Pettigrew LOVING IT!! Sidbury for a second round pick LOVING IT!!
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Tomorrow's DraftTek computer mock draft would have andre Smith coming to the Bills with their #11 pick. Should I Lock him out, so it has to pick OG later on? How would you feel if he was our pick at #11?
Astro
What about Duke Robinson in the second round?
Pettigrew the Robinson
Imagine the possibilities with Pettigrew, Peters and Robinson Mauling LB's for the next 5 years
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About Miami, and how they are in the decline. I live in Miami, so I get bombarded with the "U" all the time. They love their "U" over here. I can't stand them. However, they are a team I believe on the rise. Last year's recruiting class was one of the best, and this year's is expected to be better than last year. I remember last year they were starting to coin "The Swag is Back" I remember they started using that saying during the Chapel Hill game, here in Miami, I am a big Chapel Hill fan, They were winning that game, and then they lost their "swag" and Chapel Hill won.
That was a good day, specially getting to rub it everyone's face at my office.
Anyway, I don't think they are in the decline.
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Yeah but that one player makes this whole offense work.
I do believe he makes a big difference. But I sure would love to add a player like Pettigrew. He would instantly upgrade the run and pass attack for years to come. Also Duke Robinson in the second round. They say he is the best Gaurd to come through the draft in the last couple years. If he turned out to be what he is expected to be, We could have a possible, run mauling probowler at the gaurd position.
It is tempting to have Pettigrew (well above average blocker), Peters (probowl Tackle) and Robinson (highly touted Gaurd) on the left side. I would say that would be pretty frickin tough to stop, specially with Marshawn and Freddy Jackson driving through those holes.
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I share your optimism, but the fact of the matter is we have only added one player on a one year contract.
I'm just puttin things into perspective...
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Free agent Pacman Jones reportedly "made it rain (again) with dollar bills" at ex-teammate Marcus Spears' birthday party recently.
Making it rain isn't illegal of course, but it sure is funny to think about. "All the other players there thought he was a complete idiot for doing it," a source at the party told Profootballtalk. "It was a upscale bar/restaurant and he acted like it was a cheap Atlanta strip club. So, no, he hasn’t grown up."
Some people never learn...
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ASTROBOT
Hopefully you see this.
Where do you see Duke Robinson going in the draft?
He would be someone to consider in the second round if available I would think
First T.O. Contoversy?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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No more controversy regarding #81 jersy
case closed