All_Pro_Bills

Initially most Americans agreed with you but Biden's approval ratings have been in a consistent downtrend since he took office. My issue with the slick drama show production of 1/6 is the fact that not a single person or participant has been indicted for insurrection, sedition, treason, or anything resembling those actions. How can you have an "insurrection" without "insurrectionists"? Even the FBI agrees with me.

Apparently Joe was broadcasting today from the fake oval office set across the street from the actual White House. Why Biden can't use the real Oval Office in the real White House? Does he really work there? Or maybe the shadow administration actually running the Executive branch is using it? I don't know. But as of yet there's no sufficient explanation about any of this movie set Oval Office. Seems like everything about this administration is fake from fake votes to fake White House w/fake snow showers today. What a circus. The laughing stock of the world. Or as Irv says, what a mess..

Well no legitimate insurrection has ever succeeded without commitment to the cause and incurring some casualties. But seriously, a lot of posters here like me have explored the question what stopped them from carrying out their mission to the end? If their mission was insurrection and overthrow of the elected government. A logical answer has proved to be elusive. For starters. there just wasn't a security force on duty to stop the large number of protesters from occupying, attacking, damaging, or burning down the Capitol if that was their intent. Yet they did little if any harm to the building or its contents nor did they harm any members of the Congress. They had no command structure or arms or weapons or equipment to pull off such a task. Especially against the most powerful and well-armed government in the world. Its not like they're trying to take over the government of Haiti against an ill-equipped, unmotivated, and untrained Army of a couple hundred troops that don't get paid on time. If that was their plan it was a terrible plan. Who in their right mind would agree to participate in certain failure? And when asked to leave almost every person in the protest voluntarily complied with that request. Frankly it makes no sense. That's why I conclude the idea of an insurrection is more fiction than fact. its a great story but so are lots of other fairy tales.

Why did it fail? Because right now it looks like they all just decided on their own to leave and go home.

Its been all downhill for the party since then. Can they take a hint? Nobody cares about this anymore other than the hardcore kooks and neurotics that have to check under their beds before going to sleep every night to make sure Trump isn't hiding under there so he can steal their souls when they go to sleep.

Its the 1970's all over again! Where is Charles Bronson when you need him?

I've heard the same thing from friends and co-workers here. My take is Omicron has revealed the vaccine only strategy as a folly. A variant that looks to be more infectious, has shed its bio-engineered attributes, and is more or less a bad cold for the healthy. And the narrative shifts from protection from illness to minimizing the severity of the illness. Under the premise that if you are un-vaccinated the case of COVID you'll experience will be more severe than if you are vaxed. If you get infected try this. 10 days of ivermectin, dioxycyline, tylenol, vitamin c & d, zinc, and a multi-vitamin. That's what they used in India to suppress the Delta outbreak. For under $3 bucks a patient. More like $20 here I expect. Our medical community is starting to push the newest Pfizer and Merck treatments at $700 bucks a pop. With all kinds of adverse drug interactions to things like satins which a lot of people take. Good luck with that. What's the goal? To eradicate or control the pandemic or to destroy the economy, revoke all civil liberties, and kill as many people as possible? Irv is right. What a mess..

Just for reference, this is how a real insurrection looks. Please note comparison to fake 1/6 insurrection.

I saw some footage taken by cell phones a few months ago from some news clips but need to do some searching. If I find it I'll post some links.

I'd love to hear the official answer to this question. A question which I 100% expect the committee will avoid asking or seeking an answer to at all costs. Maybe their buses were leaving or the restrooms ran out of toilet paper but from what little video the government released and from video taken by participants in the demonstration it appeared that Capitol Police on duty politely asked them to leave and they complied with that request. Even the kooks "occupying" the House chamber left when asked. So the greatest threat to democracy since the Civil War was ended not with violence met with violence or force met with force but by two simple words, "please leave".

I disagree with you both that things are better than before. A handful of news monopolies control the majority of the business. Like I said maybe 7 or 8 people own most of the world's media. And while the web has provided the ability for peer-to-peer and peer-to many communication of news, ideas, and views that ability is slowing and surely being censored and blocked by government interests and big corporations. Starting in earnest in the US after the 2016 election. Most Americans don't get their news from boutique and independent news sites. And as a whole I think Americans are less informed and generally more clueless about what's going on in the country and the world at-large than ever before. Post an expert sourced story or video about vaccine safety in the US or criticize President Xi in China and see what happens to media freedom.

I don't think the fundamental issue with the media is honesty. That's just a circumstance of the situation where people's ethics have been compromised. It doesn't matter what your views, liberal, conservative, independent, socialist, communist, capitalist, religious or agnostics. Or what you believe or don't believe. The enemy of press freedom and truth, and of personal freedom and democracy is authoritarian concentration of power in the hands of one person or just a few people. In our press example maybe 7 or 8 people control 90% of the media in the country. If there were 500 people controlling media outlets it would be difficult for one voice or view to prevail and suppress and control all the others. With 7 or 8 people, a couple conference calls or zoom sessions and its done. I can't think of one brutal or ruthless dictatorship or oppressive regime or government anywhere in the world pushing its citizens around at their whim that wasn't the result of concentration of power in a central government. How much power would the CCP have if other political parties were legal and there were 15 or so competing for votes and offices? If Kim didn't control the military and the security state in North Korea you think he'd last more than 15 seconds before somebody took him out? Your want freedom and democracy, then break up the central government. Cut the budget 75%. Return power to the States and local jurisdictions. You want free and honest and truth in the press? Break up all the media monopolies and disburse control across 1,000's of individuals and organizations. You want an environment where all political views are valued and open and honest debate of the merits of all are heard? Then de-fund Washington DC. Limit the money a handful of billionaires throw at politicians. Eliminate political monopolies. Break up big corporations. De-centralize authority. You know who hates that idea? Big media, big corporations, big money, and big government. They are the enemy of honesty, truth, freedom, and democracy not what you think are fringe conservative or liberal expressing their views.

I expect over time the biggest casualty of the pandemic will be the credibility of medical profession.

For me the issue is relatively straightforward. Its got nothing to do with the rights of private entities to act with impunity. The law is clear there are limitations to private freedoms and their ability to disregard customer agreements, contracts, and regulations. So all these hypothetical comparisons are just that, hypothetical. It distracts from the real issue. Which is demanding the truth and making fact based decisions. Whatever your political, social, or economic views everybody should be demanding that decisions be made on sound facts. Not on politics. But when you mix science with politics most times you get politics. And the example I used is Dr. Robert Malone. The guy that invented mRNA technology and holds all kinds of patents against the technology. He gets banned from Twitter for spreading "mis-information" based on an almost 3 hour Joe Rogan podcast. He raises all kinds of issues and provides what sounds like clear and rational science. Whether you like Joe Rogan or not doesn't matter. Whether you like Robert Malone or not doesn't matter. What matters is the truth. And if he's not qualified to express views on the mRNA vaccines then ask yourself who is then? So how does Twitter determine this guy's views are not sound science and it's mis-information? Who are the experts employed by Twitter that decided Malone is spreading mis-information? What are their qualifications as scientists and medical experts? What are the names of these people? Does jack Dorsey see himself as an expert at mRNA technology? Does Twitter employ or consult with anyone that has these skills and knowledge? The truth once again, is that Twitter or anyone at Twitter has no qualifications to dispute anything this guy says. If they do then come out and show us. Who are your experts? They stay hidden and silent because they're full of crap. So you won't get any answer to those questions. Nor will anyone with the ability to force them to answer to this do so. The censors hide behind a cloak of unanimity. Working in the shadows. It all comes down to we don't like what you're saying so you get blocked. The truth does not matter. How can any rational person support this? Suppressing facts leads to poor and incorrect decisions and conclusions. It seems the only thing that scares people more than the virus is the truth.

And Dr. Robert Malone, the researcher that identified and developed mRNA technology in medicine provided his expert view expressing concerns about the vaccines. Rachel, a network commentator and untrained in medicine is allowed to speak about the vaccines. Robert, a distinguished and world-class expert in mRNA is not allowed to speak about the vaccines. What message does that send? That mis-information is a tool of power and control, not a weapon of dissent or objecting opinions and facts. And the establishments attempt to label dissent as mis-information is compete and total bullsheet.

I checked all the box scores for the season and the Bills are 6-0 when RB's get 20+ touches and 4-6 when they don't. I realize its one simple stat but maybe there's a lesson in that somewhere for the OC that we don't need to throw the ball 40+ times to win.

You're not answering my question.

What if a bakery refuses to make a wedding cake for a gay wedding?

Don't miss the CNN special on 1/6/22. Can't miss TV expected to draw almost zero audience in its time slot! Commemorating the one-year anniversary of the biggest threat to democracy since 25 to 30 Bills fans protested at NFL headquarters after Superbowl 25.

The real question is do you want a big powerful central government doing the bidding of special interests and fringe groups while pushing people around in one way or another? As there can be no autocracy without a powerful centralized government the answer to the poll question is C, defund Washington. No money equals no power equals democracy.

The core problem with the redistribution racket is the law of diminishing returns. As incentives to produce are eliminated, productive people decide to produce less and less to the point they provide only for their own consumption and as a result you run out of things to redistribute. One economist reminded me by pointing out that demand at zero price in infinite but supply is zero.

I expect it to be extended thru 3/1/22 because of Omicron.

Equal opportunity proved to not be enough. It failed to produce the expected results. So enter Racial Equity. The mythical belief that everyone's outcome must be equal or consistent and any variance in outcomes is the result of racial bias. I say mythical because it ignores all other factors and circumstances that impact outcomes. When this fails because of the previously mentioned ignoring of other impacts what's next? To be clear, this is not a denial of racial inequities, its merely a balanced opinion that other factors are important, quite likely more important, and ignoring them is inconsistent with an expectation of success.

The other side of the issue is Democrats doubling down on the assertion that parents should have little to no say or input into the teaching curriculum being taught to their children in schools. It should all be left to "expert" educators, academics, and administrators. Polls show that position is an epic fail across all demographic breakout from race, to income, to education levels. But yeah, the Republicans have it wrong suggesting parents should play a role in their child's education. I can't imagine there is any parent of a child in school on this message board that agrees with the Democrats position that they should just shut up and leave it to the pro's.

I'm not holding out hope of that just yet. Twitter has suspended the account of Dr. Robert Malone, founding father of mRNA technology for posting mis-information about mRNA based vaccines. You can't make it up any better. So for now the smug little fockers just won't quit. What next for the censor twits at Twitter? Suspending God for posting about religion?