billsfan714

Well I'm going bang for the buck, Green(cut)-Whitner(dont resign, start Scott), Kelsay(dont resign) Stroud(cut-start Spencer/Carrington) and of course McCargo. How much in payroll is that capologists? Would leave the Bills some coin to address positions in free agency before the draft.

This maybe the one final move that sends even the kool-aid drinking homers over the edge. Aren't linebackers supposed to be faster than DE's? So isn't making Kelsay a LBer giving us a pretty slow footed linebacker to rush the passer and now try to cover. It ain't going to work. This a a guy with a career high 5.5 sacks in a season, and ZERO probowls and hes 30, and the Bills braintrust is considering plunky down 24 million on a journeyman on the downside of his career? Sorry Buddy, if you make this move, then dementia is setting in.

I'll second that. I think we can all agree the Polian-Kelly years were the greatest and yet ended in heartache. And yes we would all take those again in a heartbeat. It was a time you wore your Bills gear proudly. But now that we've begun our second decade of futility its harder to find any enthusiasm, harder to justify the decisions, the hires, the drafts. I'm close to the same age and I'm no longer in WNY, presently in Steeler country. When I'm wearing my Bills hat I'm greeted with the same reaction of pity, or Why? or How could anybody like the Bills? And you know what, I'm running out of answers. To your point, other than the Kelly-Bruce years, my Bills memories are the suckass late 60s-early 70s Bills, mediocre 70s, a very brief Knox Bills, horrible early-mids 80s, and now the 11 year drought 00s Bills. The realist in me knows we are as far away from the playoffs as we have ever been and no amount of kool-aid is gonna change that.

After watching Bills drafts the last 10 years I just dont want the ESPN and NFL network crews to go Whhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? when we make a selection.

Wow 2 ones, a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and a 5th for RJ, JP and Trentative, gotta love the Bills front office. The worst talent evaluators in the NFL looked at these stiffs thats what happened. The same people who have brought you Maybust, the non-pro bowl safety Whitner, Hardy, McCargo and on and on it goes. Put that all together and you have 5 number 1 choices, 2 second rounders, a third and fourth and a fifth for RJ, JP, Edwards, Whitner, McCargo, Hardy and Maybust.

My condolences to Jags fans.

Anybody considering giving Kelsay 24 million should not be an NFL GM. Thats about pro-bowl money for a guy who only gets to a probowl if hes got tickets.

I wonder how many millions we would have to spend on F/A's next year if we werent paying for Whitner, Stroud, McCargo and Kelsey. Plug Scott in for Donte, start Carrington for Stroud, McCargo hasnt done anything for 5 years anyway so no loss there and just let Kelsey go. And if Maybust doesnt show anything in camp next year, hes cut and we have to eat the signing bonus so be it, but at least we arent paying millions in salary for next to zero in production. Seems like more than enough to get LT McNeil and a couple of legitimate LBs.

Or head of the Bills scouting department.

Im with you. Theres fantasy owners that are closer to their teams than Modrak. If hes in charge of ranking players and in the year of the LB and had Maybust over Orakpo, Cushing and Matthews, well that says a lot. If he had Whitner over Ngata, he shouldnt be in football.

Yeah he really contained Finley yesterday.

They got to be laughing in the defense meetings, coming up with a plan to shut down trent and this offense.

Yes fans please be patient. Weve only just begun decade 2 of our 20 year rebuilding plan.

Whitners one that doesnt get a lot of talk, but this his last year and his production hasnt matched his paycheck.

Agreed a fifth is required for any fan watching Trent.

Time to break out the paper bags with ILLS on them.

lol true dat.

This team has so many holes it will take more than drafts to get better, we're gonna need to bring in some FAs that can start. Hope Buddy doesnt sleep the first day of free agency every year.

You know thats the really sad part. The team is so hopeless we're always looking to next year and some impact players in the draft only to be disappointed year after year. I honestly believe theres draftniks on this board who watch college football, the combine and armed with a few draft magazines that could of put together a better team than the Bills front office. Draft up for Losman--what?, pass on Ngata for Donte--are u kidding me, Mcgahee when we had Henry, Spiller when we have Fred and Lynch, McCargo-are you seriuous, Maybin the project, it goes on and on. We're getting so bad at drafting, its becoming historic.

I think this team has a legitimate shot at 0-16.

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Agree last years schedule was a cakewalk and masked just how bad this football team really is.

Make sure everyone has a good college annual magazine, and watch lots of college football because looking to the draft is the only thing to do for the rest of the year. Somebody else said this but the bills and their leadership made up of the cast of cocoon cant cut in todays NFL. A team this low on talent and not one guy from this years draft is starting. You would think were redshirting guys like a college team. Between last and this year we'll have 10 million in Maybin and the result is about zero production. A 8th pick overall for a non-all pro safety. Paying Spiller 6 million to be a 3rd runningback. Paying Evans what 8-9 million and we cant get him the ball. How many millions previously wasted on Dockery and Langston Walker. McCargo, not only has he been a bust, but we kept him all 5 years of his contract. How many millions do we have into Mitchell and his one year of contribution. 4 million a year for Roscoe and his few hundred yards receiving a year. 3 million for Cornell Green, hell ya could paid someone the league minimum to be that bad. Not only can't we draft but we don't know how to manage a team. Why Modrak stays nobody knows. This team is groundhog day, a nightmare rerun with no end in sight. A revolving door of coaches come and go. QB's that never develop. With very few exceptions, drafts that fail to produce starters or difference makers. Our offense for years revolves around 1 decent drive a game or a lone bomb to Evans and the rest of the game is 3 and outs, penalties, turnovers and going backwards. We haven't used, drafted or developed a qaulity TE in I can't remember. Its a part of our offense opposing defenses never have to consider. Our 2nd receiver is either a 7th rounder or a FA with no experience. I'll tell you one thing that should be done. Next year at least 5 of the top 6 picks have to go to the offense. Improve the offense and you'll improve the defense too by not having them out on the field the majority of the game because our offense can't do anything with the ball. After all this were supposed to get pumped in the off season with the hiring of Buddy Nix and Chan Gailey, god how far have our standards have fallen. Oh yeah Buddy tried to say we wouldnt believe the coaches that wanted the job. Pfft. What we do know is the Cowher, Shanny, Shotty Jr and Harbaugh said no thanks so Chan wasnt at the top of your list either. You had to be drinking the Foolaid to think this duo was gonna be different. My fandom over that last ten years has gone from exited to apathy and to almost loathing this team and organization.

Epic win!!!!!