thebandit27

If they take Trubisky at 1, they are very unlikely to get a shot at either Fournette or McCaffrey at 12 IMO.

I appreciate the sentiment. I have scouted about 50 more guys, but they're more of the late-round/UDFA variety types, so I probably won't post a list beyond what's there. As to McMillan, he reminds me a bit of Ragland in that he's instinctive and aggressive. He's a solid downhill 'backer that can get to the ball. He's not as stout as Reggie is, but I think he's a bit more instinctual as a zone defender against the pass. He's a solid day 2 guy for me, but not necessarily a great fit for Buffalo IMO.

Drafting for need is a fool's errand Hopefully the front office is smart enough to avoid it

I would guess not. I may be something as simple as Garrett knowing he might return fire, and not wanting to say something that would hurt him at this point. I don't see how he doesn't go #1 overall

Except that the risk-reward is astronomically high if you get it right. If a guy proves himself a franchise QB, even by year 3, then you have him on a ridiculously cheap deal in years 3 and 4, and on a market-level deal in year 5.

My latest top-100...there may be some minor movement, but for the most part this is locked in: 1 Myles Garrett - EDGE/Texas A&M 2 Malik Hooker - S/Ohio State 3 Jamal Adams - S/LSU 4 Marshon Lattimore - CB/Ohio State 5 Solomon Thomas - DL/Stanford 6 Jonathan Allen - DL/Alabama 7 Leonard Fournette - RB/LSU 8 Reuben Foster - LB/Alabama 9 Christian McCaffrey - RB/Stanford 10 O.J. Howard - TE/Alabama 11 Corey Davis - WR/Western Michigan 12 Charles Harris - EDGE/Missouri 13 Gareon Conley - CB/Ohio State 14 Haason Reddick - LB/Temple 15 John Ross - WR/Washington 16 Forrest Lamp - OG/Western Kentucky 17 Budda Baker - S/Washington 18 Jarrad Davis - LB/Florida 19 Mike Williams - WR/Clemson 20 Patrick Mahomes - QB/Texas Tech 21 Derek Barnett - EDGE/Tennessee 22 Marlon Humphrey - CB/Alabama 23 Garrett Bolles - OT/Utah 24 Dalvin Cook - RB/Florida State 25 David Njoku - TE/Miami 26 Mitchell Trubisky - QB/North Carolina 27 Malik McDowell - DL/Michigan 28 Tre'Davious White - CB/LSU 29 Taco Charlton - EDGE/Michigan 30 Fabian Moreau - CB/UCLA 31 Ryan Ramczyk - OT/Wisconsin 32 Josh Jones - S/NC State 33 DeShaun Watson - QB/Clemson 34 Caleb Brantley - DL/Florida 35 Quincy Wilson - CB/Florida 36 Zach Cunningham - LB/Vanderbilt 37 Takkarist McKinley - EDGE/UCLA 38 T.J. Watt - LB/Wisconsin 39 Adam Shaheen - TE/Ashland 40 Kevin King - CB/Washington 41 Jabrill Peppers - S/Michigan 42 DeShone Kizer - QB/Notre Dame 43 Tyus Bowser - EDGE/Houston 44 Obi Melifonwu - S/UConn 45 Chidobe Awuzie - CB/Colorado 46 Zay Jones - WR/East Carolina 47 Jordan Willis - EDGE/Kansas State 48 Tim Williams - EDGE/Alabama 49 Adoree' Jackson - CB/USC 50 Desmond King - S/Iowa 51 Derek Rivers - EDGE/Youngstown State 52 Larry Ogunjobi - DT/UNC-Charlotte 53 Demarcus Walker - DL/Florida State 54 Cam Robinson - OT/Alabama 55 Cooper Kupp - WR/Eastern Washington 56 Dan Feeney - OG/Indiana 57 Davis Webb - QB/California 58 Ryan Anderson - EDGE/Alabama 59 Raekwon McMillan - LB/Ohio State 60 Alvin Kamara - RB/Tennessee 61 Marcus Williams - S/Utah 62 Howard Wilson - CB/Houston 63 Tanoh Kpassagnon - DL/Villanova 64 JuJu Smith-Schuster - WR/USC 65 Cordrea Tankersly - CB/Clemson 66 Evan Engram - TE/Ole Miss 67 Jalen Tabor - CB/Florida 68 Sidney Jones - CB/Washington 69 Alex Anzalone - LB/Florida 70 Carl Lawson - EDGE/Auburn 71 Rasul Douglas - CB/West Virginia 72 Jake Butt - TE/Michigan 73 Ahkello Witherspoon - CB/Colorado 74 Justin Evans - S/Texas A&M 75 Jourdan Lewis - CB/Michigan 76 Chris Godwin - WR/Penn State 77 Joe Mixon - RB/Oklahoma 78 Antonio Garcia - OT/Troy 79 Marcus Maye - S/Florida 80 Ethan Pocic - C/LSU 81 Curtis Samuel - RB-WR/Ohio State 82 Nate Hairston - CB/Temple 83 Cam Sutton - CB/Tennessee 84 Eddie Vanderdoes - DT/UCLA 85 Pat Elflein - C/Ohio State 86 Gerald Everett - TE/South Alabama 87 Anthony Walker - LB/Northwestern 88 Josh Reynolds - WR/Texas A&M 89 Dorian Johnson - OG/Pittsburgh 90 George Kittle - TE/Iowa 91 Jalen Robinette - WR/Air Force 92 Samaje Perine - RB/Oklahoma 93 Dion Dawkins - OG/Temple 94 D'Onta Foreman - RB/Texas 95 Bucky Hodges - TE/Virginia Tech 96 Jarron Jones - DT/Notre Dame 97 Jeremiah Ledbetter - DL/Arkansas 98 Tedric Thompson - S/Colorado 99 Kendell Beckwith - LB/LSU 100 Nathan Peterman - QB/Pittsburgh

In order: Patrick Mahomes Mitchell Trubisky Jonathan Allen Corey Davis Charles Harris

This in absolutely no way supports the assertion that he missed more time than he played, or that he missed any time save for 2015. He played the entirety of the 2014 season, and even had 2 kick return TDs that came after the injury. I don't say this to ruffle feathers: it seems like you aren't really sure what point you're making. From an onlooker's perspective, it appears that you're trying to say that you have concerns with his durability because of the knee (and now the labrum). That's fine; salient in fact. My entire point was that it shouldn't be over-stated, and that his productivity shouldn't be under-stated.

Nobody had him top-10 pre-combine; pretty much everyone has said that. As for 1st round, well, here's one from Daniel Jeremiah--a career scout--that had him at 18 overall to Tennessee: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/mock-drafts/daniel-jeremiah/335600

I was going to leave you be, but fallacies occasionally need to be corrected. http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/john-ross-1/gamelog/ Played 13 games in 2013 Played 13 games in 2014 Missed 2015 with a knee injury (http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-football/uws-john-ross-iii-to-miss-2015-season-with-knee-injury/) Played 14 games in 2016 It's fine to get something wrong (like, for example 23 TDs vs 24), but when you refuse to acknowledge any time you're shown that you're wrong, well, that's well beyond reason. As I've said before, it's fine if you don't want the guy at 10. I don't either, though I do think there's a solid chance that he goes top-10 (or at least would have if not for the labrum surgery--I had him at 16th on my board before the surgery). Just state facts about the kid, or at least live in the realm of reality when talking about him. Or, failing that, be prepared to be called out when you make a ridiculous comparison to guys whose entire college careers barely equal Ross' senior season.

Here's the one I always look at: http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/matthew-stafford?id=79860 Positives: Perhaps a bit shorter than preferred, but has excellent bulk and strength for the position. ... Durable performer who never missed a college game due to injury, despite a leaky offensive line. ... Efficient footwork and depth on his drop from center. ... Quick to scan the field and go through his progressions. ... Elite arm strength. ... Can make all the throws and shows power and toughness getting the ball deep even when defenders are closing and making contact. ... Consistent with excellent accuracy to all levels of the field. ... Consistent placing the deep out on the far shoulder of his receiver, away from the defender. ... Has good deep accuracy and trajectory. ... Lofts the ball high enough to allow his receiver to run under it. ... Aggressive, but has developed into a smarter passer over his career and will take what the defense gives him by dropping to his second and third options. ... Learning to look off the safety. ... Underrated core strength. ... Keeps his eyes downfield and will step up in the pocket and is willing to take a hit to complete the pass. ... Surprisingly nimble in the pocket and can avoid the rush. ... Underrated straight-line speed and will take what the defense gives him. ... Takes his own success and that of the team very seriously. ... Extremely competitive. ... Team captain. ... Undefeated in bowl games. Negatives: Can get fundamentally lazy... ... Though he has an efficient overall release, should be able to speed it up for underneath screens passes to take better advantage of the surprise to the defense. ... Sloppy footwork. ... Will get lazy and throw off his back foot, which could lead to turnovers in the NFL... ... Willing to throw into tight spots, though more often than not he places the ball where it needs to be... ... Not great accuracy on crossing routes. ... Too often leads his receivers too far or forces them to reach back, slowing their momentum and limiting their ability to generate yardage after the catch.

I'll toss out a name: Florida LB Jarrad Davis He checks all the McDermott boxes: Athletic Rangy Great tackler Effective blitzer Solid in coverage Outstanding character

Sorry, I should've picked up on the schtick sooner. My bad.

First you said that Ross had 1 year of mediocre production: he had 24 (thanks) TDs You then compared him to Parrish and Goodwin, when his senior season outpaced the total combined college career production of BOTH players Next was the statement that he's too small, when in fact he's the same size as Antonio Brown You continued by claiming that he faced lesser competition than Davis, who played in the MAC Lastly you're saying he's oft injured because he missed 1 season with a knee injury But tell me again about how I'm completely wrong... Or don't, since it seems we're at that all-too-familiar point where you're no longer dealing in reality (and we're straying far from the thread topic), so I'll once again bid farewell

Read the thread. I answered that I'd take Malik Hooker Since others brought up Ross, I figured--GASP--that we could discuss him When someone makes an altogether ridiculous player comparison, the fact-finder in me wants to set the record straight--as I've told you before, if you'd rather have an echo chamber, just say so in your initial post. So let me set things straight: he's not oft-injured; he tore an ACL and missed a season. He needed postseason surgery, just as many NFL players do. I don't know how much weight you want a 5'11" receiver to carry, but 188 lbs is not small for a guy is height. He's actually the same size as Antonio Brown. Lastly, lesser competition than the other 2? I truly hope that Corey Davis isn't one of those two--the PAC 12 is easily a higher level of competition than the MAC Serious question: are you even trying to make a valid argument or are you putting me on?

You're grasping at straws to knock the kid for reasons that I'll never know (though I do appreciate the stat correction--apparently he out-produced the other two by 1 TD in a single season; definitely debunks my point ) Also, just go right ahead and show me where I said he's a better receiver than Williams...I'll wait. I believe the issue I took is that he's in no way comparable to Parrish or Goodwin. Actually, by your standards, his best comparison is Shaw Lawson, since they both had a torn labrum! I'll give you this much: I did say, repeatedly, not to be surprised if Ross is the 1st WR off the board.

23 TDs and did it against guys like Adoree Jackson and Chidobe Awuzie. Honestly, it's okay to actually pay attention to facts and form your opinion around them as opposed to starting with a worldview and working from there. That's how you end up making statements like 23 TDs = mediocre production But yes, let's compare him to Goodwin and Parrish--whose entire combined college careers resulted in only 23 TDs Also, his apparent lower-body injury was so bad that he missed zero percent of his workout as planned.

Taylor does as much to cause pressure on himself than he does to elude it. He holds the ball an excessively long time (longest in the league by a decent margin), often fails to step into the pocket, and bails laterally and backward into pressure. I'm fine with upgrades, but to say that the line is a weakness or major need would be misguided IMO. PS--enjoy the draft!

His surgery was scheduled before the combine, which is why he finished his entire workout http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18663550/washington-huskies-john-ross-surgery-nfl-combine Also, if you can watch Ross play, see the 23 TDs he scored as a senior, and look at the level of competition that he faced, and still compare him to Goodwin and Parrish, then I have to ask what you're seeing to make the comparison?

This and it's not close

Ignored? This team employs the highest paid LT in the NFL, and has eleven--ELEVEN--OL under contract that have starting experience in the NFL. That they return all 5 starters from a line that's been more than adequate for two straight seasons is not a coincidence

Exactly Stock the roster with great players and worry about everything else later

It doesn't come from that at all. The simple fact is that skill position players get more money because they have greater value. That Buffalo put together the best rushing attack in the NFL for 2 consecutive years with a line comprised of 2 street FAs, a mid round pick, a 2nd round LT, and a first rounder at center is a testament to what can be done scheme-wise. Teams that prioritize OL are few and far between, and as we saw in the playoffs, they'll always lose to the teams that have a franchise QB. Anyway, to the topic at hand: yes, the team could use an upgrade at RT, but investing heavily in a position that is routinely filled by late round picks seems like a terrible idea. Case-in-point: the RTs that teams threw huge money at in FA were guys like Remmers and Wagner--late round picks.

WRs and CBS are a dime a dozen? Is that why guys like AJ Bouye--who has never been a starting corner, get as much as franchise LTs on the open market, and WRs easily get more than LTs? Is there any data to back up the idea that OLmen have longevity where other positions don't?