thebandit27

I think he'd have taken it...but then again, it was my idea, so that's obvious Not sure, but if I were brought on as GM today I would probably match it. For a team that's going to rely on the run as much as they are, they need a proven 2nd option.

My initial plan of offering him 2 years and $4.5M fully gtd doesn't look so bad right now.

Yes

Up until the labrum surgery, I would've guessed that Buffalo's choice of WR at 10 would be John Ross. He fits the mold of speed guys that Whaley likes, and he fits the style of WR that's shown to be able to have some impact with Taylor at QB. Now, considering availability, I'd guess that the only WR in play at 10 would be Williams

I think it's most likely to be one of those 2 teams, but then again, I don't think he'll be there at either 15 or 17.

Colts or Redskins?

I have no clue what point you're trying to make.

Honestly, when you attend the games and look at the All-22, if what Kirby said is an exaggeration, then it's only a slight one.

Um, dude... http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/temple-suspends-dion-dawkins-haason-reddick-following-arrests-aggravated-assault-charges-031715

Bill, most of this is simply false. Cooper is 6'1", 211 lbs http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/amari-cooper?id=2552487 Sammy is 6'1", 211 lbs. http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/sammy-watkins?id=2543457 Cooper's drop rate was 7.1% as a rookie and 2.3% last year. Sammy's drop rate was 3.1% as a rookie, 3.1% in year 2, and 3.9% last year On a per-target basis, Sammy smokes Cooper despite playing with a QB that is clearly not the passer that Carr is at the current time. And that brings me back to my point: Cooper is probably a top-10 WR in the NFL by most accounts. Sammy has 2 seasons of performing like a No. 1 WR despite a staggering lack of opportunity in comparison to his peers. The only issue with him is availability. Now, if someone places a higher level of emphasis on that than someone else, sure, that's an argument worth having. Whether or not he's as productive as other guys when given the targets is not up for debate.

Okay...theres probably 5 I'd take over Sammy when healthy

Please do post it if you find out!

What a shocker: the team is NOT stupid and plans to pick up his option as long as nothing crazy happens with his foot. I'm astonished.

Your first sentence is a testament to ChanFuego's A+ shtick game

I just...wow 😢

Why don't you provide a list of players that corroborates your stance.

IMO, not having a great QB is no reason to let a great player walk out the door. Keep the great ones!

No worries; this stuff all gets complicated

It's a false hypothetical; they need to decide on his option by May 2nd.

I think Conley is going top-20

If you are referring to a season where he starts all 16 games, check; did it his rookie year If you mean a season where he has no health issues whatsoever, forget it; it doesn't happen in the NFL.

The problem with your second paragraph is that the other WRs that you mention are starting from a baseline that consistently provides more opportunities thanks to a higher percentage of pass plays being called. I think Biscuit is talking more about getting Sammy to that baseline

No, you once again are clinging to irrelevant minutiae (via a never used loophole) to try to further a ridiculous argument (as you do every time). You don't deal in reality, you deal in tangential points at best. You also don't read my posts, or any posts that disagree with whatever diatribe you're currently on--else you wouldn't be harping on the YPT stat since it was never central to my argument. It was merely a representation that encapsulated the point I was making. You either ignored that or you don't understand it (neither would surprise me), but I explained my position quite well. The guy produces as a #1 WR despite receiving FAR fewer opportunities than other bona fide #1 WRs in the NFL. But go ahead and prattle on about a never-used loophole in the CBA that doesn't in any way apply to the situation, and while you're at it, continue to pigeon hole the argument down to "I don't like YPT as a stat!!11!11!!!"; it's definitely working So here we are again: you've abandoned reality, and so I'm abandoning you on this discussion.

You're reaching badly. What you're referring to has never happened in the history of the tag...it's a non-issue. If you can still make the Gillislee comparison, then I'm 100% sure that you didn't read what I wrote, else you wouldn't be asking if I'd pay him top-10 money when I already explained it.

If you're in Buffalo, they have it at Premier on Maple