thebandit27

I think that's a bit low for Kelly. I've become accustomed to calling him a top-15 QB. But so much of it is subjective. I think there's an unquestioned top 4 of (in no particular order) Unitas, Montana, Brady, Manning. After that there's a HUGE chasm before you get to the next tier of 10-12 that includes, IMO: Elway, Marino, Kelly, Aikman, Favre, Brees, and Graham. I can see an argument for Bradshaw based upon Super Bowl wins, so throw him in there as well. Same goes for Big Ben. I think recency-bias is weighing too much when I see names like Rodgers, Wilson, and Warner in there, but if you add those dudes in there, then there's your group of 12. So I suppose I'd say there's a top-4, a top-16, and after that it's highly debatable.

Buffalo ranked 13th in TOP per game at 30:29.

Wow...how often do you trade for a guy twice?

Hmmm...

Geez...Leonard Little part II. You'd like to think that once alcohol use results in causing the death of another person, a guy would learn to make some lifestyle changes. Apparently not.

And I'm here too!

I don't think many folks would agree with that.

When you win 9 cups across 3 organizations, I think it's okay that people call you that.

I agree with you guys, and I also think it's important that we define what results we're expecting to see. For me, it's 3 things: 1) I expect to see more decisiveness in the passing game 2) I expect to see a less rushed setup/delivery on quick throws and when things break down 3) I expect to see a greater willingness to take what the defense gives If Josh shows me those 3 things, I'll go ahead and declare him a franchise QB in the making.

Disagree with what? That people make too big of a deal out of it? Maybe, but like I said: they had that game won.

No doubt he shouldn't have been benched when he was, but for as big of a deal as people make about it, they had that game won until a special teams gaffe.

If you count "potential guarantees" (which aren't really guaranteed), then yes. Because that would factor in his 2019 option bonus and 2020 roster bonus, both of which didn't guarantee until 3/15/19, and his 2020 base salary, which doesn't become fully-guaranteed until next March. If you're talking fully-guaranteed money at signing, the number is $20M: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-angeles-rams/brandin-cooks-14429/

No, they did not pay Cooks the same money. Cooks got the same $16M AAV, but he got $20M guaranteed over 5 years, while Watkins got $30M guaranteed over 3 years. That's actually a HUGE difference.

You sicken me.

The only metric I look at in addition to the above is average number of 1st downs allowed per game.

You're welcome. I'm serious by the way--you're a good dude... who just happens to have have at least one insane opinion

I promise that it takes absolutely no football genius to know that Trent Dilfer was not a good NFL quarterback, let alone an all time great. I just think it's laughable that anyone with such an outlandish and indefensible claim would expect to be taken seriously in any QB discussion is all. I mean, you're a nice guy and all, but that take is just absurd

As long as you realize that your Dilfer-is-an-all-time-great opinion renders your opinion about all things QB-related moot, then we're good.

So Dilfer is an all time great? You know that's a laughable take, right?

What? That's like, the opposite of every impression I've ever gotten from him.

Wait, aren't you the same @reddogblitz that once called Trent Dilfer "an all time great"? The same Trent Dilfer that had the following stat line over his first 18 starts: 7 wins, 11 losses, 262/497 (52.7%), 3,207 yards (6.45 YPA), 5 TDs, 24 INTs, 55 sacks, 56.13 passer rating

I respectfully submit that the way you control the clock is to get first downs; it has nothing to do with running or passing. Buffalo's problem wasn't getting off the field too fast on offense; it was that they couldn't stop the Giants on defense. Like I said: 56% 3rd down conversion rate...that's sickening.