May Day 10

He is a Bills fan? wow. Im smitten

I saw RHCP twice last year (2012) and they were quite good.

Instruments also warp a bit in cold air. The tunings would be thrown off.

The way I see it, we need to weather the storm over the next 5-10 years. We need to get through the unprecedented transition of the Bills from Mr Wilson's ownership. Then the issue of RWS will come to the forefront. It will likely need 2-5 hundred million in renovations in order to fully "rebuild" it to provide more "modern" comfort for fans, as well as ensure structural integrity. Or they will have to build a new stadium. Any meaningful contribution from EC/NY will likely come with some sort of strong, long term lease. Additionally, the NFL may be different by 5-10 years. Maybe they will have to expand by then and all our "enemies" will have teams. Maybe (I believe so) the bubble will burst a bit and the NFL will fall back to Earth and Buffalo wont be as outgrown. Im also buying in on all the progress I see in Buffalo in the past 5 years. I think we could see things moving in the other direction here within 10 years. This transition from Wilson is a hell of a pickle. Ideally, the man remains healthy for another decade.

I think that is still a boatload of money and a positive story

I think you guys are overlooking the potential power of the symbolism of this. For both the NFL and the politicians. A grassroots effort by fans/constituents raises even close to $170 Million and the NFL is going to look very bad allowing a move, as will any politician who uses anything at their disposal to prevent a relocation.

Bruno’s bassist posted this: “All instruments at Super Bowl half time shows are prerecorded. Have been for a good many years. It isn’t feasible to soundcheck everyone in the amount of time they have and too many things can go wrong. You might be able to take two minutes to fix something at a regular concert, but two minutes at the Superbowl is millions and millions of dollars down the drain. The NFL isn’t willing to take that risk”

I know 2 people who OD'd the past 6 months. One was an old friend, who I didnt recently interact with, but one was a guy who I hung out with many weekends. When I met him, he was "recovered" and seemed to be doing well. Fit, good outlook, etc. Then you could see him fading in many ways, and eventually he would become pretty scarce. Got indebted to a few people, when he did show, he was a mess, falling asleep, etc... it was rough. Nothing we could do. Then he passed away suddenly. It was hush, hush (as was the other case), but everyone knew, and nobody was surprised. It was sad because we know this individual did not want to fall back. It was uncontrollable. Like a suicide too, we were left wondering why, and what we could have done... I lost a friend to a tragic accident a few years back. That was much, much worse (we were closer as well).

Pearl Jam would be excellent, but I do not believe they would ever agree to do a Super Bowl. Foo Fighters U2 Again, as the last time was great RHCP? Green Day seems like an obvious choice for one I do think Metallica would be good. (Lol at the totally accurate Ice Cube quote above) Bruno Mars was a good find though

After not long, heroin isn't a choice. That crap owns your soul. There is no escape or recovery. Only the strongest are able to control their past. I'm sure psh would have loved to a man be free. It isn't something that people can wake up and decide not to do. It isn't like refusing a donut. I had acl reconstruction and I had lortabs. I had to consciously stop. I really wanted my last ones and I was not really in much pain any longer. It was strange.

I never heard of Bruno Mars before this. I thought he was good. The last slow song to the troops was a bathroom break though. RHCP were awesome IMO.

That is an interesting thought

If you skim the top it looks ridiculous. But if you look at it deeper, its not so bad. The Bills are a huge form of entertainment for me. I follow them, watch games, discuss on internet, follow college (with a small factor looking at Bills prospects), attend games, etc. Without them, thats a huge hole. $1000 as a quasi PSL as an insurance they stay (or I get the $ back) is appealing. Also it should be noted that any owner committed to Buffalo will be leaving considerable money on the table as opposed to a much wealthier, bigger market. It would be a Golisano-type in more of a philanthropic purchase. If this loan can help someone like that save our team, Im all for it.

I agree on the legitimacy/figurehead. Once this gets moving, Im sure we could see various ex Bills at least chatter about it.... I also wont give a dime until I am sure there is no way fraud happens. If I am assured of that, I have a $K set aside. This is huge and something I was hoping would happen. If for nothing else, if they do leave, we can feel like we did something. Also, I think if this was successful and the fans in this smallish city raised 9 figures, it may increase pressure on the league to do what they can to keep the team in Buffalo. Or at the very least (however unlikely), pull a Browns.

My seats, you currently cant see video. Now I will be able to I expect the laughingly low price to be increased, and I really dont mind

This is what needs to be done before it is too late. Cheers to those guys and I will certainly contribute. I didn't read the entire article... what happens if an owner takes the money and later bails?

Can't really complain with that selection.

http://touch.latimes...e/p2p-79109217/

IMO, if a new owner (looks like MLSE/Rogers is getting their ducks in a row) wants Toronto, they are going to get/go for Toronto. There would be no desire/motivation to play any games in Buffalo, nor have any ties, other than a few early ceremonious ones played out for the masses to make it look like we didnt really lose our team. It appears they have a desire to build an NFL stadium, and that isnt going to be for 4 games, 6 games, or 7 games. Buffalo/NYS/Erie will likewise not make significant updates to RWS or build anew for 4 dates/year.

So a new owner would "keep" the team in Buffalo with the condition of assuming Rogers pays upwards of $300 million every 5 years for 4 home games a season? How would RWS be maintained, by whom, and for 4 games a year? And why wouldnt Rogers just buy the team and move them if that were the case? Why spend that much money on a team that isnt their own, and put on that many games for unwilling people (which I am assuming loses money at least under the last deal's terms)?

The Argonauts are notorious for historically getting no fan support (which is why the willingness for MLSE to purchase them should be VERY alarming to us). But with that said, I do not think that, nor the Bills in Toronto series is an indication on how the Toronto _________ will be supported. I would expect a decent amount of support.

sounds like they are really committed to helping the Bills regionalize

I dont know how that worked there, but it was used as the boogeyman that got stadiums up in Minnesota and San Francisco (and probably San Diego and possibly St Louis).

I disagree. The NFL wants to break the plane of the goal line in a foreign country. Toronto brings a ton to the table for the NFL, including possible further immersion into other cultures up there. Likely a secondary TV deal forged up there. Then they can also spin it like "Buffalo still has their team, but its just going to be an hour away and called the Toronto ________" The NFL will continue to use LA as a threat to leverage public money, until that well had dried a bit. Be weary of the threats the NFL doesnt make, and that is Toronto.

Isnt Toronto the 4th largest NFL market without Buffalo? to me, that would be more appealing as a buyer. Move Buffalo out of the way. In order for the team to stay, it is going to have to be a somewhat philanthropic purchase by someone with local ties. If a potential buyer wants Toronto, they are going to move to Toronto.