May Day 10

There are nearly 6 Million people in Toronto. They say 16% of ticket holders are canadian, right? That is about 11K people. I would venture a very small percentage of them live amongst the 6 million in Toronto. The 2 teams would serve a different clientele of fan. And the Bills have trouble selling out late games because they have been terrible for a decade and a half with very few meaningful games down the stretch.

why not have both?

why wouldnt the owners want Pegula and the capital he will surely invest in the team out of pocket. AND a team in Toronto, leveraged some provincial and city monies... as well as a new Franchise fee from Rogers, etc

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worst game maybe 6-3 Browns... 8-0 Browns in the Blizzard was awful too. 6-3 OT vs Giants Replacement Players in 1987 had to be the worst. Worst watching experience? Probably worse but off the top of my head is the Seattle in Toronto blowout and this season's game at Tampa Bay

This is the man's legacy. The franchise would move to Toronto and carry all the history and records, which Reed is a part of. Also, money. If the hypothetical situation happened, I wouldn't fault any ex-Bill in being involved.

Once St Louis, San Diego, and Oakland are set, it will be announced that the NFL is expanding and they will leverage that to extort what they can out of Toronto/Ontario before they announce that Bon Jovi/Tanenbaum/Rogers are being awarded a franchise

So I wonder what we will find out next week, if anything. Im dying to find out what Aecom reported with the Stadium investigation, but apparently that is being kept under wraps. You know Trump will update everyone on whether or not he submits an intention to bid. I would be we will hear Bon Jovi officially submitted one (because it seems everything leaks up there). Other than that I wonder if we get any surprises?

Thats exactly how it would go down. $1 Billion dollar stadium, with demands for the State/County to pay for it all while providing the Bills sweetheart and crippling lease terms. Cant/wont do it? Well, we tried. We feel bad for Bills fans but we will be "an hour" down the road. They are all welcome to follow us! Oh, but Bills doesnt make sense in Toronto, so we will have to alter all that... etc.

35. I feel like a kid again here. Thanks guys! old folks geriatric center up in here.

Everywhere I worked has people who at the very least fondly look back at those Bills teams and have a couple good stories from watching those Super Bowls and/or were closely connected with a Bills fan(s) at the time.

Agreed on polancarz... He seems to be very vested in the team's future here and he is outspoken against the bon jovi group. Maybe Collins would have come to bat too... but the non relocation agreement was negotiated by polancarz and he seems hell bent on not being the county executive who loses the bills. All other politics aside

the notables from Mr Wawrow's report: Polancarz still seems adamantly anti-Bon Jovi The Toronto firm who looked at sites is meeting with Buffalo next week. Possibly opinion, but purchaser may be identified by late August.

scooped the scooper in scooping his scoop

If you read between the lines, it seems like this is what KJ is saying, but its getting mis-read.

watched the video. Really a bad look. It just appears the guy stands there and pees his pants.

If Glenn is out, this season is a huge uphill climb (knowing Alonso is out)

Very early, but this is what the first mock I see has the Bills "missing out" on Cleveland Browns: Shilique Calhoun, DE/OLB, Michigan State http://walterfootball.com/draft2015.php

If you read between the lines, Kirby is agreeing with you.

I like my ticket stubs. I have 99% of my stubs over 30 years

no doubt. thats what has made this futility extra miserable though. I have little doubt that once the Bills are AFC East/AFC contenders, the ticket issue will be "primed" just like the Sabres' situation and people will be grabbing tickets for resale purposes, causing a waiting list and perpetual demand. With the futility, I feared we would never have a chance to get there I think that we do have a right to hold our heads high based on the tickets the currently do sell though. Going for the 7-peat of last place finishes.

que the early 90s comparisons. different time now 20 years later though. How ticketing/flipping is with technology, smaller venue, overall popularity of the NFL, regionalized Rochester and Southern Ontario

I certainly believe that Bon Jovi and friends plan on keeping the team here until the 2020. They will put forth a "good faith" stadium proposal that will almost certainly be shot down, allowing the relocation in 2020 and shifting the blame on us and the politicians. Just initiating that process is a big mistake for the group and the NFL. I feel stronger that the Toronto group is just in it as a courtesy and drive up fear, the bid price, and the stadium conversation... then the NFL will reward them down the line.

if the owners want/wanted the Bills relocated to Toronto, yes.

doesnt the defense normally have a huge advantage at the beginning of camp?