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Moss averaged 4.6 YPC against Dolphins. Not sure why people are saying he’s under whelmed, he’s barely had a chance to get going or find a rhythm. End of day, there is only one football. Josh leads the NFL in passing yards, hard to also have a second string RB also make a big statistical impact too. I think Moss has looked good in his limited touches.

I wouldn't really think Allen's team would be interested unless Allen accomplished something big this year like a SB birth or victory, or even an MVP year. If he extends before he's truly arrived, he won't get the value he could get if he has a big playoff run and returns Bills to the SB. That being said, its possible an extension could be reached this offseason if Allens shows Beane and McD he's officially the long term guy, which he's obviously on a pace for right now. I mean Allen seems to genuinely love being a Buffalo Bill and would think he wants to stay. Plus Josh is so competitive, I think winning is more important to him than the biggest contract possible. So I do think Allen and Beane will find common ground on a contract that is big but also not crippling to the Bills to field a championships contending team during the term of his contract. But, I do think it will solely depend on how far the Bills go and just how big Allens season is for it to make sense or not this offseason.

What is it about it that makes you "worried"? I don't get that. If you want to be cautiously optimistic, fine. But why worried? Doesnt matter the opponent, those passes Allen threw were pin point accurate and beauties. These are passes deep he missed last year. He in 2 weeks has shown a SUBSTANTIAL improvement in anticipation throws. So regardless of the opponent, he STILL hit those passes. Not to mention, Miami held NE pass attack in check, while a SB contender got lit up the next week at home by the same NE team. Nobody was calling the Miami defense terrible after week 1...but Allen lights them up, suddenly they are treated like the worst defense in the NFL. Its not like our guys were just wide open and Allen was playing catch out there. There were so many remarkable throws that only get completed with accuracy and timing and anticipation. Does it mean Allen will light every defense up every week. No, but this narrative to be worried about Allen still because the perceived opponent was weak is being exaggerated.

Is this where I get to say I told you so to all the wrong Josh meltdowns? Hehehe I took a lot of crap for constantly telling people Josh Rosen was easily the worst QB among the top 5 or 6 expected to go in the first round. Not only was I certain and thrilled the pick at 7 was going to be Allen, but I had also started a thread titled “My case for Lamar” who I was also high on and stated we could stay put without trading up and get him too. I’m thrilled I was right about Josh, but wish I was wrong about Lamar so Baltimore wouldn’t be so good haha

Huh? Milano is the one that’s a full participant. He’s obviously on track to play or he wouldn’t be practicing in full. And this game is just as important as the AFC games. Rams are tough and we need to stay ahead of NE, they are not the demised team people tried to make them out to be on the off season. In a short 16 game season, every game is very important

Me too. Imagine being TT and sitting there hearing Herbert is having a strong game while at the hospital recovering from a doctors mistake. He must have been so frustrated and pissed knowing that this probably cost him his job. And worse yet, it’s going to turn the fans on him too because the moment TT struggles all the boos will come strong as they will want the new kid.

Why do you or anyone else here care so much about who starts for the Chargers? People need to get over there anti Tyrod stuff. Happened when he was in Cleveland too. He was a total pro here and good teammate, and helped break a 17 year drought. Never understand why people can’t help themselves of just putting the guy down so much.

He did make a huge rookie mistake that was a big impact and also could have been difference in the game. Just a few steps from and easy first down while running on 3rd down, he flings the ball across his body on a deep floater easily intercepted in doin coverage by goal line. Had he just taken the gimme first down, they get another score there. They lost by a FG. It was a colossus mistake. He also got himself crushed multiple times and does not know how to avoid contact yet, so I’m sure they would like the kid to survive too. But honestly, I don’t think they want Tyrods to lose his job after missing the game because a team doctor royally messed up puncturing his lung. So my guess, if Tyrod struggles this game, Herbert starts the next one.

Was just coming here to post that...holy crap what a mistake that is. Feel bad for the guy

Yeah, Zay couldn't make those catches if he was playing himself in Madden.

You mean the post where I was right and so many were wrong? Yeah bump that S**T UP hahaha

I didnt see a lot of lack of respect. I mean if you are not a Bills fan and look at how we beat up on 2 weak teams, I wouldn't automatically pencil us in for the SB either. Most of them were pretty complimentary and predicted close scores.

No, I think it all came within the flow of each game. Allen was picking apart the Dolphins, and so were our WR's. It just wasn't needed really, we got good pass protection and WR's were coming free regularly. And Allen was dropping dimes all day.

Yup, was just coming here to say this. Without a doubt, having no preseason and limited contact has HEAVILY contributed to the injuries this year. There is a need and reason for preseason and full camps. This is a violent sport, and proper time preparing the body for the contact is absolutely necessary for the body to be able to stand up to the rigors of a long season. If there was ever a case for why a Preseason was so important, despite fans for whatever reason always whining about it, this is it. Always found it utterly stupid and absurd for fans of all people to complain about preseason. If you don't enjoy watching it, who really cares, dont turn it on, its that simple. Less preseason doesn't make the NFL regular season get here any faster, starts on the same date regardless. But the players and coaches need it to both evaluate and prepare the roster for a rigorous season. And the only reason its been talked about being shortened is for money, the league wants more regular season games that make more money. But the players don't want the added exposure to their bodies, so they have been focused on shortening the preseason in order to do that.

You know there will be some that will still complain about some pass he didn't complete still I expect both Brown, and Cole to be used a lot next week as Diggs is likely going to draw Jalen Ramsey most the day. That being said, Allen is a huge competitor and will into be afraid of Ramsey and Diggs is probably the best route runner in the league, so do think Diggs still gets his. Rams secondary is not that strong behind Ramsey IMO. I think Gabe Davis may be used more and could be a sneaky strong game for him, especially after the confidence the team is going to have in him after that insane catch. My prediction is Gabe gets 4-5 receptions and another TD against the Rams.

Only 3 other QB's in NFL history have had the start that Allen has had through 2 weeks...none of them are this year but Allen, although Wilson is quite close, so might as well lump him in and say 4 other QB's. PFF still grades him low. Its embarrassingly inaccurate system. And at some point they have to start considering credibility you would think and either stop click baiting or re-evaluate their system if they are grading out Allen as the 12th best QB this week and behind Darnolds atrocious performance for example. There is ONLY one player who has a case for a higher grade than Allen this week, and that is Wilson, and that is a negligible argument as they were both phenomenal performances. Thats it.

Its most likely gonna be Wilson, he did it on Primetime against the GOAT defensive mind in history and the reigning DPOY. I still voted for Allen, but how many people outside Bills and Dolphins fans really watched that game Sunday compared to those watching the Sunday night game? Just think Wilson will get more love as more voters witnessed his performance first hand. And honestly, Wilson prob deserves it anyway given the quality of opponent, and he did have one more TD. But its close, and just awesome that Allen is in this convo right now and probably a 1a and 1b situation on MVP for the season after 2 weeks with Wilson. Allens true first test will be this Sunday and can not wait to see how this team and Allen respond to it.

Its gonna be Wilson for sure. He did it on Primetime with everyone watching. Outside of Bills and Dolphin fans, how many people were actually watching him play Sunday. But its still great he's getting attention. And honestly, Wilson probably deserves it more given the quality of opponent was so much higher than the Dolphins. Not to take anything away from Allen, and I still voted for Allen, but Wilson had a phenomenal day himself against the GOAT defensive mind in history and one the best DB's in the game.

Yeah, one thing to remember, while Rams have the best defensive player in football, and one of the best DB's in football...the rest of the D is not exactly scary. I live in LA, Rams are my second team, and they have several areas that can be exploited. Honestly, Bills offense is a matchup nightmare for the Rams. Allens ability to move and escape the pocket already neutralizes the Rams best defensive player. Not saying Donald wont still be a force or a disruptor, but Allen's escapability helps reduce his impact. Yes, Jalen Ramsey is likely going to be on Diggs, but end of the day, Diggs may be the best route runner in football and will still get his on Jalen. But with Jalen likely shadowing Diggs, guys like Brown and Cole are going to have a lot of opportunities because the other DB's for the Rams are going to struggle hanging with those 2 as they are also great route running WRs both twitchy and fast too. Rams run defense isn't great either, so I think Allen, Moss, and Singletary will have strong outings too. For me, its going to come down to whether or not we can slow the Rams passing attack down. And that will be a 2 fold question...will we get to Goff enough and will we have at least one, if not both, of Milano and Edmunds back. Rams have talent at TE and a very smart offensive coach who is going to watch the Miami game and see gold at attacking the middle of the field and using the talented TE's they have to move the chains. Plus, they have Henderson involved in the offense now, and he's an explosive fast 2nd year RB who can be a real weapon out of the back field too in the passing game. We are going to really need to get Edmunds and Milano back out there if possible.

Ah thanks, wasn’t sure if he was on IR or not

Well we had the 2019 version of the defense week 1, we dominated all facets of that game. Week 2, we were missing 2 of our best players, both at LB, both who excel in coverage and shutting down middle of field. Miami has a very good coaching staff now, I literally think the Dolphins have their own version of McD and Beane now and are about at the same spot we were during Allens rookie year. Great staff, pieces being added each year, on their way up. So that staff literally focused on exploiting the weakness of the D Sunday, and it worked as Gesicki had a career day because of it. This put a ton more pressure on the DB's too, and allowed them to exploit and abuse Levi as well who struggled all day. So, we still have that stingy 2019 version of the defense, we have just never before been forced to play without our 2 stud LB's in the same game before, not to mention, Norman is going to be a clear upgrade over Levi. Speaking of Levi, I don't know what happened to him. There was a stretch last year where he was our highest rated DB and playing great as teams tried to attack him and avoid Tre. But as the season wore on, he got more inconsistent. He is a guy that cn go out on a Sunday and have a great game, make great plays, etc...or he can go out and be a complete liability. I don't understand what it is that makes him like that. I know Milano and Edmunds being out didn't help at all, but still, he struggled a lot yesterday again. Hopefully he shakes it off and has a bounce back game. Anyone know the status of Norman and if he has a shot to play Sunday?

I get that, but McD doesn’t want 21. He’s literally said they want to average much higher points, same with Beane. That’s my point. He has no interest in scoring just 21 points, they want to average in the high twenties, always have.

Well they aren’t talking about the defense here, the conservative claims were him from an offensive approach, not defensive. Of course he’s gonna be pissed we have up those points to Miami. But he isn’t at all going to walk off field thinking we need to slow the offense down. This is what he’s literally said he wanted out of the offense...more points, more big plays, more passing yards. Him and Beane both said that multiple times.

Agreed, just saying Allen also made excellent play in pocket to extend play and put the ball in the only place Davis had a shot. Just amazing play from both players. I am loving Davis potential

Yeah, everyone was enamored with Davis catch and over looked that was the only place that ball could be placed and it was excellent movement in the pocket that kept that play alive. Both Allen and Davis made a huge play on that