GaryPinC

Not sure I can live with him at 10. I mean, he's played in the league 4 years now and is 23 years old. How much more can we keep trotting out these age excuses when he just doesn't process the game fast enough? He improved a bit this year but is there really an explosive improvement awaiting his future?

Pretty lame attempt to swap in "Ramshouse"😅

Plus, he's no Rex Ryan. McD is a meticulous details and process guy. At a minimum, I think the fact he didn't change the defense on the second time out says it all.

I appreciate the statistical argument, there's plenty of folks here who put all their stock in statistics. But I would suggest you watch him play entire games. He's a competent MLB, but with few instincts and is more times then not fooled or slow to react to the play then uses his speed to make up for his slow mental processing. He is seldom aggressive at the point of attack and frequently jogs along waiting for others closer to the ball to make the play. I don't hate him but he hasn't improved in 4 seasons, in fact both his total and solo tackles have gone down from his rookie year. Why is it Milano gets to cover Kelce when Edmunds would seem the better fit on paper? I'm ok if the FO wants to give him his last season to see a jump but he becomes a liability against the best teams in the league and I think either he's uncomfortable in his role or maxed out already and worth considering a new direction.

Well, at least our coaches got to see what a real defense looks like and how effective the D line was against Mahomes. No excuses. Congrats to Cinci, they made Mahomes pedestrian in the second half.

Part of it also may be the league is starting to respect how this franchise has been rebuilt and the winning culture. Giants fans are hopeful and grateful that their new hires will put them on the same path.

Bills fans started this tradition and it's an amazing and classy way to show their support for things that happen in the NFL world. Do you really feel good about talking down generosity of other fan bases following our lead? That's freaking classless to me. Bills fans should take pride whenever something like this occurs. We donated to Lamar Jackson when he got injured out of that playoff game a couple years ago as a sign of respect. I believe the Chiefs fans did a similar thing because JA should have won us that game and they knew it. Yet some here tried to paint it as disrespectful. Giants fans took a good piece of our front office and coaching staff and are happily just showing their respect in a classy move. Appreciate how we've redefined Fandom for the better.

It's a gamble no matter who you choose. We also don't know what, if any, opportunities they gave Dorsey this past season to groom him for the job. We don't know what kind of coordinator Josh needs, and if Josh is going to play a larger role in calling his own plays. We do know Josh really likes Dorsey and endorses him. An experienced coordinator may be stuck in his own ways and could fail badly. I'm going to trust the FO and Josh to make the best choice for them. I think McD more then realizes the weapon he has in JA and isn't looking to go ultra conservative anymore.

I get what you're saying and I think Daq is a strong consideration but to have a rookie come back from such a serious injury and outperform his previous season (including in the playoffs) is much more impressive to me than Daq's situation. "Comeback" isn't rigorously defined nor should it be.

And perhaps they should statistically distinguish it from the performance of the O-line. There are multiple factors behind those numbers, rule out what cannot be then if all you're left with is Josh Allen you can make the case.

The optimist in me likes to think that he isn't happy in the middle role and might be happier and more aggressive if they change it. I don't know though. He's frustrating. I mean, where's the leadership to knife in there? I see him do it at times in other situations, but I don't know.

Yeah, the other thing that made me sick is on all the KC highlights watching Edmunds running along with no real aggression and closing ability. He looked so slow and uninterested. Honestly, as others have mentioned, we need speed and at least one elite player in that front seven and Edmunds is not it. I'm ok with having him next year as a stopgap, or repurposed to get more out of him. I really think Beane and McD need to take a brutally honest long look at him and if he really fits a championship caliber defense. Thanks, it's either that lack of execution or lack of coaching. Given they seemed to be locked into prevent defense, I think the latter.

A little cheesy but good. The killer for me (and I'm not going to go back and watch it again to see who it was) is the Buffalo D-lineman ran right by Kelce when he could have easily put a lick on him on that final long gain for the tying field goal. McDermott prides himself on details, he should have a field day learning.

I agree with you if it works out that way. However, there's a lot more to chance. They may hit a long return and only need 5 or 6 seconds to run a play then kick it. If they had put Tyreek Hill back there, no way do I do anything except kick it out of the EZ. Obviously they didn't put him back there but I also can cut McD some slack wanting to not take a chance on a return. On the other hand, if memory serves, McD even burned a timeout after KC's first completion and STILL didn't get them into a better defense. He should at least own that and I consider the entire prevent defense of that series the most troubling component (and most correctable) of the entire sequence.

So which was the critical mistake? Because you seem to be fixated on the kickoff while many of us feel the defensive strategy was the largest problem/blunder and the kickoff was the more minor mistake.

Well, they need to be able to recognize a good head coach first. Harbaugh got a free pass but they've been pretty bad choices since Carr.

Yah, and all the Michigan fans know it too!😂 Reminds me of when Cooper finally got canned at OSU

I think most on here know you're a huge OSU guy. Would you rather see Harbaugh stay or go? 🤔

Not sure he got them turned around or simply benefitted from the large number of seniors that stuck around this year. He has struggled with recruiting and his coaching has been weak and unimaginative. I think most UM fans feel he's not a very good coach. Due to his ties and reputation, things would have to be really bad for him to be removed, the pay cut was needed and I think both sides feel the best thing is for him to move on.

Belichick just got his ass handed to him in a historic way. If it happened to McD would you prefer he be all Dick Jauron gracious about it or so incensed he's a bit of an ahole for a while? I like a coach who takes it personal because that fire's going to burn for improvement.

Sure, definitely agree. I was addressing your original reply where you seemed to imply Beli wasn't run out of Cleveland, and while he stayed on until the team left, everyone here wanted him gone well before. I didn't realize Bernie and him had a poor relationship as the reason Kosar got cut. Makes sense as I felt Kosar was still a serviceable backup at the time. Certainly better than Philcox

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/its-nothing-personal-bill-belichicks-handling-bernie-kosar-telling "Before the game, after studying the film, Kosar pointed out that the Broncos could probably be kept off balance by throwing the ball on second and third downs. Belichick did not agree with that strategy, but in the second half, Kosar ignored him and threw those passes anyway. The Browns, who trailed 16-0, scored twice and missed a field goal in five possessions with Kosar calling the plays. He was sacked six times. They eventually lost, 29-14. And less than 24 hours later, Kosar lost his job." This was 1993. It was pretty classless, as a Bills fan who still lives in Cleveland. Definitely a tough situation with Kosar though. But I can tell you that the fans definitely wanted to run him out of Cleveland on the spot. Belli was fired after that final 1995 season as they left for Baltimore. I can't speak for Modell, but I just think Belli was so abrasive and reviled by the entire press and fans in CLE that Modell didn't want to take the same chance of it happening in Baltimore. Plus, he was still very unproven as a head coach.

There's a lot of knee-jerk garbage posters on this site, but there's also a lot of established, highly respected posters who can dissect on-field play and be right-on, sometimes more than the outside "experts" who may only take a superficial look at Edmunds. I agree with the assessment that Edmunds is a talented player who lacks good football instincts. I think you have to be blind not to see the plays he is out of position or gets fooled. It happens too frequently and his lack of game changing plays speak to this. The fact that the FO hasn't locked him in to a long term contract also speaks to it. Let's see what they do. I'm okay keeping him but not at elite prices.

Personally, I think holding the program together and going 8-4 and 7-5 with a large loss of scholarships, some transfers and a reviled image post-Sandusky was excellent. PSU was lucky to avoid the death penalty. And I think most PSU fans appreciate his work in that situation. In terms of W-L, we'll never know how good of a college coach he was, but as a PSU fan, I definitely thought his teams played hard and pretty damn well given the talent deficit and taint those 2 years. And he seemed much less of a prick back then also.

"And while Katie doesn’t disclose what sparked the tiff, she explained in the comments that she dreamt up the odiferous measure to “make him miss me.”" Oy. Somebody needs some Massengill's