QB Bills

The worst qb error they made in the last decade was selecting Jp losman. It potentially cost them Aaron Rodgers the following year.

For the last 7 years, the bills have lost (and usually convincingly) to the nfc rep in the super bowl. Therefore bet the house on the saints to win tonight and the next two weeks after that.

I remember that raiders game actually dipping down to -40 with the wind chill as there was a graphic on tv stating that was the temperature where Celsius and Fahrenheit were equal.

Sandra bullock for qb

Didn't Arizona get eliminated by sf winning on Monday?

Couldn't agree more. Listen to pettine's presser from yesterday. He sounds so much more professional and knowledgeable than Marrone it's not even funny. Marrone comes across as typical jock-turned-coach who's platitudes are better served for the college or high school game. Are you kidding? They had one blown assignment on the second play of the game. Other than that, tb rushed for 85 yards and had 81 yards passing in total. This defense has more often than not been very good.

Not for nothing, but technically ej Manuel is the more experienced nfl qb. Thad Lewis had only one start coming into this season. With even average qb play this team would have been in the playoffs this year.

You might be right. If that's the case, then Marrone isn't the type of coach the bills should want.

Cut Fred Jackson? What are you talking about? He has the most rushing TDs of his career this season, and his YPC is around his career average. Where do you see him slowing down? The only way you may be right is because the Bills have historically been shown to be incompetent when it comes to player evaluation. If they do cut him, it would be a stupid mistake. As did I. He is and always has been a better player than CJ. And Lynch, for that matter.

The Bills are like heroin to fans. They don't need to be marketed. They sell themselves. Maybe some other fans are different, but I can't think of one thing they've done marketing-wise that made me spend an extra dollar on them. Like others have posted, their efforts seem very low-rent and unprofessional. Hiring Psy as halftime entertainment last season? What an embarrassment. Not only that, but Brandon comes across as incredibly smug and unlikable. He's like a slimey used car salesman when being interviewed.

Not sure where the confusion is. Obviously Calvin Johnson is a more accomplished player than Stevie. The point is that even the best of them make mistakes. At crucial times also. What's myopic is wanting to cut SJ because he is "not a clutch player". First of all, the Bills haven't played an important game since 2004, so the term clutch is used loosely here. Secondly, the sample size is way too small. He's had two clear late drops, the last one occurring over two years ago. Yes, he should have held on to the ball tighter against the Falcons, but that was also a good play by the DB. You could easily point to him stripping the DB and recovering the fumble late against the Colts after yet another Fitzpick last year as a clutch play, but that doesn't fit the narrative, I suppose.

I had completely forgotten about the Spencer Johnson to linebacker move from a few years ago. What a horror show that was.

Calvin Johnson had a couple of key drops which may have cost them the game and now has nine on the year. So weird. I thought only Stevie dropped passes. Guess the lions should cut this bum also.

With even mediocre QB play, this would easily be a playoff team. Every team, even the elite ones, have holes in the free agency era. Top to bottom, if you exclude the most important position, this is a pretty good roster. Manuel may yet turn into a good pro down the road, but he has ranged from bad to atrocious this season. Not sure why everyone thinks we would have been better off had he not gotten injured in Cleveland. Thad Lewis of all people came in and did a better job. A cast-off with less pro experience that Manuel at the time, for the record. Another myth is that he somehow keyed the comeback win against Carolina. He threw 5 yard passes to the RBs, one of which was an uncatchable bullet to CJ that should have been intercepted after it bounced off him. Fred Jackson willed the team down the field on that drive. The lob to SJ at the end was short and had no chance of being complete had the DBs not screwed up. Also, he threw what should have been a game-ending interception right before Stevie fumbled in the Falcons game. A horrible pass that the DB should have caught. The result of the fumble was obviously the backbreaker, but this was a more egregious error in my opinion. He's thrown a couple of nice passes here and there (the TD pass to SJ in the opener among them) but they have been so few and far between that they seem more like an anomaly than anything. Again, not saying that he is or isn't going to be a good player down the road, but his play really has been the biggest cause of another failed season this year. Whether that's his fault or not, in terms of him being ready to take the reins, is probably a more debatable point.

Wish we had hired Trestman.

Looks like he just copied and pasted what a lot of the simpletons on here have been posting. Get him even an average qb and let this anti-stevie movement die a quick, painless death.

Perhaps they meant lump of coal?

Stevie is a really good receiver. Lee Evans was also. TJ Graham is a useful piece in a good offense too. He's always getting separation downfield for anyone who's been to a game or seen the all 22 video. The problem lies with the pile of burning dog excrement the Bills have had at QB for the last decade. Some people make it out to be more than that because they either don't understand football or they just don't like the guy but it really isn't all that complicated. Pretty sure everyone would agree that Larry Fitzgerald is one of the best receivers in the game. Look at his stats over the past 5 years ever since Kurt Warner retired. Other than 2011, they're very similar to Stevie's. The Bills have talent at most positions except for the one that matters the most. Fix that, and everything else falls into place.

Glass half full: Beebe running back and stripping the ball from Leon Lett. Glass half empty: Any other play from that game.

Is that correct? We've been last in the division the past five years? Unbelievable. I didn't think it was that bad.

Getting tired hearing about the noise there. It loses some of it's lustre when fans are told to scream so they can break a sound record. Crowd noise should be an organic reaction. Not manufactured like this.

He's a good running back in a great situation. He isn't, and never was, better than Fred. That was proven anytime they played in the same game. And none of this "he is trying harder now" nonsense. He ran hard when he was here. But he was never the best back on the team. A small part of me wishes that Fred would have gotten traded to a real team just so people would appreciate his talent more.

How did this guy last until the third round with the resources teams put into scouting these days? I can't imagine it was simply his height. Not every qb-needy team last year could have been that stupid, right?

Soul crushing loss yesterday but the only thing that changes is that we gotta beat new England now (as well as the other three). Whereas before the scenarios were losing that game and getting in at 8-8, it's now winning out and getting to 8-8. And this way gives us the better conference record. So technically, losing yesterday was a good thing! (I tried)

It is, but there is no way to keep the kicking game in ot and have it still be a fair shot to both teams. Unless you make ot two halves also and both teams take turns kicking off. Which nobody wants. It's a small concession to make in order to have a truly fair chance for both teams. Ross tucker is absolutely right. The new rules are not balanced.