Alphadawg7 Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 The most I can hope for is that below average Fitz can sling the ball down the field and show the potential of what our offense COULD look like if we had a QB that threw past 5 yards on every play..... We do not have our starting QB on the roster..... Precisely my point...if Fitz does enough to show what we could do with a real QB, would Ralph then say, lets get a QB before we get a coach? Would he rationalize that DJ was undone because of the inept play at QB and Ralph decide to use that as an excuse to keep him given his contract status and just pursue a QB? Thats my original question...and thats what I mean when I said could Fitz actually save DJ's job. It was never speculated Fitz would morph into our QB of the future (although its possible, I mean he barely has the experience of a 2nd year QB, so who knows what he can do yet) and get us to the playoffs, thats where others took it as they didnt even read the OP probably and reacted to just the title... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 Now does everyone see what I was speculating on. Todays game is exactly what I was talking about. What happens if Fitz can do just enough to give our passing game some life and make enough plays to steal a few wins for us? Would that bite us in the azz and give Ralph reason enough to give DJ another chance next year with a new QB? Fitz isnt very good, but his play clearly highlights what is severly lacking with Trent under center...his inablility to see the field. His complete ineptness to throw downfield is unquestionably a big handicap on this offense. Its only two games now, but if Fitz keeps doing just enough to win us some of these games against weak teams I worry it will lead to Ralph once again keeping DJ and looking for a QB instead... I hope that doesnt happen as there is so much talent available at HC, but you have to admit, its now a more threatening possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Now does everyone see what I was speculating on. Todays game is exactly what I was talking about. What happens if Fitz can do just enough to give our passing game some life and make enough plays to steal a few wins for us? Would that bite us in the azz and give Ralph reason enough to give DJ another chance next year with a new QB? Fitz isnt very good, but his play clearly highlights what is severly lacking with Trent under center...his inablility to see the field. His complete ineptness to throw downfield is unquestionably a big handicap on this offense. Its only two games now, but if Fitz keeps doing just enough to win us some of these games against weak teams I worry it will lead to Ralph once again keeping DJ and looking for a QB instead... I hope that doesnt happen as there is so much talent available at HC, but you have to admit, its now a more threatening possibility. 11 for 22 for 123 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 11 for 22 for 123 yards. Lets not forget TO's contribution to those numbers with his drops... MORE importantly, those numbers dont win games, TD's do...Fitz 3 TD's in 6 quarters for the offense...Trent 1 offensive TD in 14 qtrs of play...ONE Oh, and FYI: Trent has games like this all the time, except we lose them because to go along with those numbers he produces ZERO TD's while Fitz found away to get TWO out of our offense today...theres you difference in winning many of these losses we have had the last 2 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Now does everyone see what I was speculating on. Yeah, the 167 yards of total offense the Bills put up today really proves your point. Never mind that it was their season low by far. And forget about the fact that the 119 yards passing per game that Fitzpatrick is putting up is 70 yards a game less than what Edwards was averaging. The Bills offense is obviously greatly improved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StupidNation Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Well think about this... if DJ was that BBBAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDD how did we win 2 games we shouldn't with a lot of starters missing? If anything he is showing he is pretty good with no talent. Where he sucks is on offense and for that reason he should be fired. He would make a decent D-coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 Yeah, the 167 yards of total offense the Bills put up today really proves your point. Never mind that it was their season low by far.And forget about the fact that the 119 yards passing per game that Fitzpatrick is putting up is 70 yards a game less than what Edwards was averaging. The Bills offense is obviously greatly improved! Proves what point? Who is making a point? I worried about a hypothetical situation, that so far has been 100% right as Fitz has done just enough to win us two games. Read my post above genius...Under Trent, 1 TD in 14qtrs of play...under Fitz, 3 TD's in under 6 qtrs of play. But you keep going on your stats, I will go with the stats that win games TOUCHDOWNS And man, what is it with you? Do you just blast people before you read a post? I never said Fitz is going to save the offense but you act like this thread was about how great Fitz would be when it was just a "what if" question if we win some ball games under Fitz becaue he gets a little life in the passing game. You would have to be blind or clueless to not be able to identify the fact that Fitz is better utilizing our WR's despite very limited work with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Lets not forget TO's contribution to those numbers with his drops... MORE importantly, those numbers dont win games, TD's do...Fitz 3 TD's in 6 quarters for the offense...Trent 1 offensive TD in 14 qtrs of play...ONE Oh, and FYI: Trent has games like this all the time, except we lose them because to go along with those numbers he produces ZERO TD's while Fitz found away to get TWO out of our offense today...theres you difference in winning many of these losses we have had the last 2 years... Oh I get it, drops count for Fitz but not for Edwards. I think Edwards has sucked mbut how many picks did the D have giving him the ball inside the 30? Both suck and Fitz is not the reason we have won 2 in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I agree the numbers suck but Fitz is 5-0 in his last 5 starts. That TD pass to Evans was beautiful as well. I agree that Fitz plays ugly football,but when he's in the team finds a way to win. When Edwards is in they find a way to lose. Also did anyone else notice that TO and lee Evans actually sat next to Fitz......it was weird. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Proves what point? Who is making a point? I worried about a hypothetical situation, that so far has been 100% right as Fitz has done just enough to win us two games. Read my post above genius...Under Trent, 1 TD in 14qtrs of play...under Fitz, 3 TD's in under 6 qtrs of play. But you keep going on your stats, I will go with the stats that win games TOUCHDOWNS And man, what is it with you? Do you just blast people before you read a post? I never said Fitz is going to save the offense but you act like this thread was about how great Fitz would be when it was just a "what if" question if we win some ball games under Fitz becaue he gets a little life in the passing game. You would have to be blind or clueless to not be able to identify the fact that Fitz is better utilizing our WR's despite very limited work with them. lmao...I aint the only one who thinks your avatar looks like a pedifile personal ad...so F Bomb me all you want, but your avatar looks like it belongs on a pedifile wanted poster and the nude male back pic on your profile is even weirder... Another post to remind you of, being as its something you never posted according to you. ( fun bringing up past posts isn't it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I worried about a hypothetical situation, that so far has been 100% right as Fitz has done just enough to win us two games. Actually the Bills have won 2 games, not Fitzpatrick. And in both games he's done less than Trent Edwards has been doing. Read my post above genius...Under Trent, 1 TD in 14qtrs of play...under Fitz, 3 TD's in under 6 qtrs of play. And if not for Jairus Byrd, Fitzpatrick would have 1 TD in 8 qrtrs of play. And man, what is it with you? Do you just blast people before you read a post? I never said Fitz is going to save the offense but you act like this thread was about how great Fitz would be when it was just a "what if" question if we win some ball games under Fitz becaue he gets a little life in the passing game. I've read your posts. You say stuff like "Trent is what is holding this offense back" and then pretend that's not what you meant. And then you spout nonsense about how our "offensive production is clearly" better with Fitzpatrick when clearly it is not. And now your rambling about how today was a perfect example of what you meant, when in reality Fitzpatrick stunk it up worse than Edwards has in any game this year. And of course now you're selling some horseshlt about how you were just being hypothetical. If you're going to run around this board telling people how you know so much more than them and then proceed to make crap up and pretend you didn't say it, you are going to get called on it. Now come back with some "what are you talking about" mularkey and pretend you're the paragon of innocence. I won't be bothering to read it for the umpteenth time. EDIT: Just saw yet another example of your continuing garbage. You claimed Trent was the lowest rated 1st half QB in the league and when somebody called you on it, you claimed you meant to say amongst the lowest. You're completely full of crap on a regular basis and I want everybody here to know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Actually the Bills have won 2 games, not Fitzpatrick. And in both games he's done less than Trent Edwards has been doing. And if not for Jairus Byrd, Fitzpatrick would have 1 TD in 8 qrtrs of play. I've read your posts. You say stuff like "Trent is what is holding this offense back" and then pretend that's not what you meant. And then you spout nonsense about how our "offensive production is clearly" better with Fitzpatrick when clearly it is not. And now your rambling about how today was a perfect example of what you meant, when in reality Fitzpatrick stunk it up worse than Edwards has in any game this year. And of course now you're selling some horseshlt about how you were just being hypothetical. If you're going to run around this board telling people how you know so much more than them and then proceed to make crap up and pretend you didn't say it, you are going to get called on it. Now come back with some "what are you talking about" mularkey and pretend you're the paragon of innocence. I won't be bothering to read it for the umpteenth time. That's a bad word! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 Actually the Bills have won 2 games, not Fitzpatrick. And in both games he's done less than Trent Edwards has been doing. And if not for Jairus Byrd, Fitzpatrick would have 1 TD in 8 qrtrs of play. I've read your posts. You say stuff like "Trent is what is holding this offense back" and then pretend that's not what you meant. And then you spout nonsense about how our "offensive production is clearly" better with Fitzpatrick when clearly it is not. And now your rambling about how today was a perfect example of what you meant, when in reality Fitzpatrick stunk it up worse than Edwards has in any game this year. And of course now you're selling some horseshlt about how you were just being hypothetical. If you're going to run around this board telling people how you know so much more than them and then proceed to make crap up and pretend you didn't say it, you are going to get called on it. Now come back with some "what are you talking about" mularkey and pretend you're the paragon of innocence. I won't be bothering to read it for the umpteenth time. EDIT: Just saw yet another example of your continuing garbage. You claimed Trent was the lowest rated 1st half QB in the league and when somebody called you on it, you claimed you meant to say amongst the lowest. You're completely full of crap on a regular basis and I want everybody here to know it. LMAO Simon...read my post, its 100% hypothetical scenario of what if we win some games because Fitz does just enough...I am not changing it to be hypothetical now, its been that way the whole thread...so again, read before you blast. And yes, today is 100% what I was hypothetically suggesting in my original post, Fitz was effective enough to get us some points. And FYI: BYRD DIDNT THROW A TD! So to make a claim that Fitz only leads us to one score in SIX, not eight quarters of play is stupid. You have no idea if thats true and you know it. What is offensive production...ummm TOUCHDOWNS...how many has Trent led us on in his last 3.5 games? ONE...how many has Fitz led us on in 1.5 games THREE...that alone shows more offensive production becuase guess what, points win games and Fitz's production equaled 2 wins while Trents equaled 1-3 including a loss to a QB who completed TWO passes. And for the last time genius, this isnt a thread on Fitz being great, it was what happens if we win a few of these games we should have been winning if Fitz does enough for us to win? Will it save DJ's job? And so far, Fitz is 2-0... Simon, if you are going to accuse someone of being full of it, maybe you should take the time to understand the post first. You read like one line, decide what the whole post says and blast people for it...lmao at you PS: You and I both know this goes back to a heated debate over Trent...and guess what, on several occassions you blasted me saying you knew more about football from playing football....but dont take it out on me just because it drives you nuts Trent didnt live up to your argument... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Actually the Bills have won 2 games, not Fitzpatrick. And in both games he's done less than Trent Edwards has been doing. And if not for Jairus Byrd, Fitzpatrick would have 1 TD in 8 qrtrs of play. I've read your posts. You say stuff like "Trent is what is holding this offense back" and then pretend that's not what you meant. And then you spout nonsense about how our "offensive production is clearly" better with Fitzpatrick when clearly it is not. And now your rambling about how today was a perfect example of what you meant, when in reality Fitzpatrick stunk it up worse than Edwards has in any game this year. And of course now you're selling some horseshlt about how you were just being hypothetical. If you're going to run around this board telling people how you know so much more than them and then proceed to make crap up and pretend you didn't say it, you are going to get called on it. Now come back with some "what are you talking about" mularkey and pretend you're the paragon of innocence. I won't be bothering to read it for the umpteenth time. EDIT: Just saw yet another example of your continuing garbage. You claimed Trent was the lowest rated 1st half QB in the league and when somebody called you on it, you claimed you meant to say amongst the lowest. You're completely full of crap on a regular basis and I want everybody here to know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 You're completely full of crap on a regular basis Well, that is the very definition of an a-hole, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Well, that is the very definition of an a-hole, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 something I am sure you are very familiar with, lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Fitz isn't going to save anything. But, Jairus Byrd might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 You're completely full of crap on a regular basis and I want everybody here to know it. I've been saying this for how long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 something I am sure you are very familiar with, lmao that your an A-hole, yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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