LGB Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 If you are going to do something, give it your best shot. If the Bills fire DJ, Cowher, Gruden, Dungy, Holgrem and Shanahan seem to be the best replacements. But why would anyone of these proven football talents want to come to WNY and work for Russ Brandon? The only way this might happen is if RW handed them the keys to the kingdom and placed them in charge of all football operations. But there is one problem with that. They would still have to work for RW and being GM and HC is different than only concentrating on HC. Cowher, Gruden and Dungy all have plush broadcasting jobs. Holgrem and Shanahan have been spending time with their families. The other concern is: will RW step up to the plate after the Tom Donahoe experiment and pony up for proven GM talent? The more likely scenario: the team goes up for auction and a new era begins – but quite possibly not in Orchard Park. The new owner would likely want a new taxpayer subsidized stadium and it could be hard, if not Impossible for economically depressed Buffalo – even if we give it our best shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherman Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I expect the next head coach to be another person with previous experience. Mike Sherman or Mike Nolan come to mind. They have been head coaches and both are doing a good job as a coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPR4444 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Brian Billick is out there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGimp Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Dick can out coach all of them....if they were drunk, stoned and passed out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. ChumChums Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Dick can out coach all of them....if they were drunk, stoned and passed out Even then, it'll be a damn close call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glass To The Arson Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Dungy please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mile High Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Dungy please He fits the teams "system" the best right now. I really would love Gruden though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Lieutenant Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Ralph fires Jauron. Ralph pays Jauron 3 million each year for the next 3 years to not be the Bills head coach. Ralph hires one of these coaches for at least an additional 5 million a year. Don't get your hopes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boom Jam Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I expect the next head coach to be another person with previous experience. Mike Sherman or Mike Nolan come to mind. They have been head coaches and both are doing a good job as a coordinator. I wouldn't mind bringing in Dom Capers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Ralph fires Jauron. Ralph pays Jauron 3 million each year for the next 3 years to not be the Bills head coach. Ralph hires one of these coaches for at least an additional 5 million a year. Don't get your hopes up. I think it's $3M for the next 2 years, but the point is still valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlegm Alley Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Dungy please He fits the teams "system" the best right now. I really would love Gruden though. You guys seem to forget that when Tony Dungy stepped down as HC of the Colts, he effectively retired from the NFL. I just don't see him returning to the NFL considering what happened to his son a few years back, which is something that Dungy says could've been prevented had he not been putting in so many hours as an NFL HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Herm Edwards, maybe Mariucci? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSpeed Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 My take on RW. (Warning! This is purely my gut feelings. No brain cells have been harmed while writing this post.) Ralph does not care if the Bills win or lose. He just doesn't care. Although I believe he's enjoying the profits from the Bills, I don't think he owns the Bills for money reasons either. I believe he owns this team for bragging rights. It's his show piece, his expensive race horse, the toy only a few kids possess and he has one. He's hanging out with HIS rich buddies (more than likely not other owners) so he can flash his NFL owner card in their faces. (If there is such a thing) The winning or losing means nothing to him anymore. It's all about giving him self-importance in front of his piers. If he sold the team before he dies he no longer has that big stick he carries around. Bottom line is this... Russ and DJ make him feel comfortable. They're quiet unassuming and they don't make Ralph work to own his team. Yeah he probably would like it if his race horse would win the Kentucky derby, but I think he is just as happy right now knowing he has a horse in the race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 My take on RW. (Warning! This is purely my gut feelings. No brain cells have been harmed while writing this post.) Ralph does not care if the Bills win or lose. He just doesn't care. Although I believe he's enjoying the profits from the Bills, I don't think he owns the Bills for money reasons either. I believe he owns this team for bragging rights. It's his show piece, his expensive race horse, the toy only a few kids possess and he has one. He's hanging out with HIS rich buddies (more than likely not other owners) so he can flash his NFL owner card in their faces. (If there is such a thing) The winning or losing means nothing to him anymore. It's all about giving him self-importance in front of his piers. If he sold the team before he dies he no longer has that big stick he carries around. Bottom line is this... Russ and DJ make him feel comfortable. They're quiet unassuming and they don't make Ralph work to own his team. Yeah he probably would like it if his race horse would win the Kentucky derby, but I think he is just as happy right now knowing he has a horse in the race. I agree. It is about the money with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 OK usually I would say Ralph would go with a no name B-list coordinator BUT the fans are really starting to hate what Ralph is doing with this team (They had to bring in TO just to survive another DJ season). Going into next season there won't be another TO like free agency grab available for the Bills and the draft can't generate that much interest if DJ or a no-name is the head coach. So in order to keep those season ticket renewals up Ralph might go after a guy like Gruden or Schotenheimer. Both guys have been proven to be able to resurrect franchises and are big names that would insure the fans remain interested in the team. Now I know Ralph doesn't want to spend big on a head coach but drastic times call for drastic measures and hiring a proven head coach could in the long run make him money. Russ is business savvy and knows how to market his teams and next season (Lets say we go 6-10 this year) a coach with a ring like Gruden could be the way he markets it. Gruden might cost a lot (4-5 million) but he would be cheaper than a Cower or Holmgren (6-8 million a year) and the season ticket renewals he would provide would more than compensate for his cost. So its a much better possibility now that Ralph hires a Grunden like coach than ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I agree. It is about the money with him If it was about the money he wouldn't have a payroll that is consitantly in the middle of the pack. If it was about the money with Ralph he would have just moved the team to LA or Toronto or the countless other places he could have moved the team to. Ralph loves Buffalo and has consitantly passed up chances to move the team. Sure he makes some penny wise dollar stupid moves but to say the man doesn't care to see a winning product is just not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 My take on RW. (Warning! This is purely my gut feelings. No brain cells have been harmed while writing this post.) Ralph does not care if the Bills win or lose. He just doesn't care. Although I believe he's enjoying the profits from the Bills, I don't think he owns the Bills for money reasons either. I believe he owns this team for bragging rights. It's his show piece, his expensive race horse, the toy only a few kids possess and he has one. He's hanging out with HIS rich buddies (more than likely not other owners) so he can flash his NFL owner card in their faces. (If there is such a thing) The winning or losing means nothing to him anymore. It's all about giving him self-importance in front of his piers. If he sold the team before he dies he no longer has that big stick he carries around. Bottom line is this... Russ and DJ make him feel comfortable. They're quiet unassuming and they don't make Ralph work to own his team. Yeah he probably would like it if his race horse would win the Kentucky derby, but I think he is just as happy right now knowing he has a horse in the race. i cant disagree with any of this. sad but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Ralph fires Jauron. Ralph pays Jauron 3 million each year for the next 3 years to not be the Bills head coach. Don't get your hopes up. That is unconfirmed. I looked online and could find no confirmation of guaranteed money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornerville Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 None of the above will come here to coach the Bills. Get ready for Bobby April and much of the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 That is unconfirmed. I looked online and could find no confirmation of guaranteed money. coaches contracts arent like players contracts, if that is what youre getting at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 My darkhorse is John Fox...Looks like they want to run him out of town down here Carolina unless he can turn it around quick...Not saying he would be better or worse than the above mentioned...But he would likely be a little cheaper and more willing to come... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 HOLMGREN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMIEBUF12 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 the beauty of this is there are really good coaches available to the bills this time.even if they got the worst out of the bunch it would still be an upgrade over jauron....i mean if say washington gets cowher and dallas gets shanahan.,the bills would still be in line for mike holmgren,gruden and the coach i want marty schottenheimer..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Cowher, Gruden, Dungy, Holgrem, Shanahan seriously, why do people continue to bring up the names of coaches that have zero chance of being hired by Ralph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Another topic about these guys? RALPH WILL NOT SIGN ANY OF THEM! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and CONTROL! Actually, I sat back and thought about it. I want Holmgren. Best of the lot at developing QB's as no way they part with the HC and QB in the same year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdBlueNorth Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 OK usually I would say Ralph would go with a no name B-list coordinator BUT the fans are really starting to hate what Ralph is doing with this team (They had to bring in TO just to survive another DJ season). Going into next season there won't be another TO like free agency grab available for the Bills and the draft can't generate that much interest if DJ or a no-name is the head coach. So in order to keep those season ticket renewals up Ralph might go after a guy like Gruden or Schotenheimer. Both guys have been proven to be able to resurrect franchises and are big names that would insure the fans remain interested in the team. Now I know Ralph doesn't want to spend big on a head coach but drastic times call for drastic measures and hiring a proven head coach could in the long run make him money. Russ is business savvy and knows how to market his teams and next season (Lets say we go 6-10 this year) a coach with a ring like Gruden could be the way he markets it. Gruden might cost a lot (4-5 million) but he would be cheaper than a Cower or Holmgren (6-8 million a year) and the season ticket renewals he would provide would more than compensate for his cost. So its a much better possibility now that Ralph hires a Grunden like coach than ever. I like Gruden as well and I think that he is a pretty good coach. That being said, I would prefer to have Schotenheimer simply because he has a better track record of getting an offense on track, developing QB's, getting a running game going, and using the TE's. Also, I think he has enough contacts in the business to assemble a good staff - the last good staff we had was Wade Phillips' (with the exception of his drinking buddy that he let run the Special Teams) they could at least put together a game plan and execute it. Marty has done a great job where ever he has been, but has been plagued by those first round playoff problems. I would love to experience the excitement of actually getting to the playoffs again so why not roll the dice and get rid of dead dick. It's Marty-ball time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGB Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 I like Gruden as well and I think that he is a pretty good coach. That being said, I would prefer to have Schotenheimer simply because he has a better track record of getting an offense on track, developing QB's, getting a running game going, and using the TE's. Also, I think he has enough contacts in the business to assemble a good staff - the last good staff we had was Wade Phillips' (with the exception of his drinking buddy that he let run the Special Teams) they could at least put together a game plan and execute it. Marty has done a great job where ever he has been, but has been plagued by those first round playoff problems. I would love to experience the excitement of actually getting to the playoffs again so why not roll the dice and get rid of dead dick. It's Marty-ball time. Marty Schottenheimer is a somewhat interesting name. Not sure if he is a great game-day coach. He was fired by the Chargers in 2007, after a 14–2 record and a disappointing second round loss after a first round bye in the playoffs. What Bill's fans wouldn't do right now for a 14–2 record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdBlueNorth Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Marty Schottenheimer is a somewhat interesting name. Not sure if he is a great game-day coach. He was fired by the Chargers in 2007, after a 14–2 record and a disappointing second round loss after a first round bye in the playoffs. What Bill's fans wouldn't do right now for a 14–2 record? That's what I am talking about! 14-2 and they give the guy a heave-ho out of town. What we wouldn't give to see a year like that again... it will be a long time before the Chargers see that kind of performance again too, although they do have a better front office courtesy of the great Buffalo defection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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