ColdBlueNorth Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Still think that he was one if not the only defensive player with true impact potential as a rookie in the early 1st round. I wonder what it would have taken to trade up a few spots to grab him rather than the crop of light edge rushers who may or may not pan out against the big dogs. In yesterday's game we saw the difference between a defensive lineman with a high motor, and one (a rookie) that can forklift your veteran center 5 yards deep on a play. Maybin sounds too much like Maybe, as a Bills fan I do hope I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Still think that he was one if not the only defensive player with true impact potential as a rookie in the early 1st round. I wonder what it would have taken to trade up a few spots to grab him rather than the crop of light edge rushers who may or may not pan out against the big dogs. In yesterday's game we saw the difference between a defensive lineman with a high motor, and one (a rookie) that can forklift your veteran center 5 yards deep on a play. Maybin sounds too much like Maybe, as a Bills fan I do hope I am wrong. See, this is exactly the type of mentality that I hate. I know a lot of people are down on our GM and coach, etc. but c'mon. Raji was picked 9th. We picked 11th. End of controversy. Moving on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdBlueNorth Posted August 23, 2009 Author Share Posted August 23, 2009 See, this is exactly the type of mentality that I hate. I know a lot of people are down on our GM and coach, etc. but c'mon. Raji was picked 9th. We picked 11th. End of controversy. Moving on... Hence the term trading up. There was much discussion as to which player would benefit our defense the most. I was of the opinion that it would be Raji, and there were some that agreed even though pass-rushing was considered the high-priority need. This led to discussions regarding whether a DT can help a pass rush. My comment was the Raji looked good, and I still think that he would have been a good pick. What controversy are you referring to Erik? Feel free to "move on" as you put it. I would rather discuss the merits of the defensive rookie class with more rational posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Hence the term trading up. There was much discussion as to which player would benefit our defense the most. I was of the opinion that it would be Raji, and there were some that agreed even though pass-rushing was considered the high-priority need. This led to discussions regarding whether a DT can help a pass rush. My comment was the Raji looked good, and I still think that he would have been a good pick. What controversy are you referring to Erik? Feel free to "move on" as you put it. I would rather discuss the merits of the defensive rookie class with more rational posters. Green Bay was moving to a 3-4 and Raji was a no-brainer for them. You do realize it takes two to complete a trade right? Why would GB trade with us or anyone before them? Oakland? Forget about it...Jaguars? Maybe but they needed a tackle and got Monroe. Plus we would have likely had to given up our 2nd round pick...my point is that it is pretty unfair to Maybin to compare him to Raji when he didn't get picked before him and the Bills really had no shot at him. Of course Raji was a good pick, that's why he went #9 in the draft. I think Raji is going to have a great career as a pro. I just fail to see what that has to do with the Bills or Aaron Maybin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladiebla Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Given the ownage pressure Raji applied he would have fixed the tampa 2 scheme for sure, however he went at 9 we drafted at 11. Trading up would have cost us Wood and Levitire, which would have meant having no o-line at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazie Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Hence the term trading up. There was much discussion as to which player would benefit our defense the most. I was of the opinion that it would be Raji, and there were some that agreed even though pass-rushing was considered the high-priority need. This led to discussions regarding whether a DT can help a pass rush. My comment was the Raji looked good, and I still think that he would have been a good pick. What controversy are you referring to Erik? Feel free to "move on" as you put it. I would rather discuss the merits of the defensive rookie class with more rational posters. Moving up to a more expensive draft pick was not and is not feasible for RW owned Bills. Erik IS the rational one here. Moving on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdBlueNorth Posted August 23, 2009 Author Share Posted August 23, 2009 Moving up to a more expensive draft pick was not and is not feasible for RW owned Bills. Erik IS the rational one here. Moving on... Hardly the point of my original post.... "zazie"? There is very little rational thought on the board at the moment, particularly from Erik and his apparent entourage of zazies. OK so moving up 2 spots in a draft is impossible - I get the logic I thought Raji looked good, and would have looked good in a Bills uniform - we will see how Maybin's coming out party compares. Like I said before, I hope I am wrong and that he lights things up ala a young Jason Taylor. Whatever...moving on so I can read more of the enlightened posts by Erik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 My face is explode (now that would be a suitable smiley for this board) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 My face is explode (now that would be a suitable smiley for this board) hey...is that you in your avatar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 hey...is that you in your avatar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladiebla Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 OK so moving up 2 spots in a draft is impossible - I get the logic No way Greenbay would have traded away, so that meant having to trade up 3 spots in the top 10. That is going to cost you bigtime (see what the Jets had to give up to trade up to 5). The cost issue versus the needs of the Bills is where the problem is/was. It would have meant trying to rebuild the o-line with 3rd round picks it's best. Did Raji look great? He sure did. Should we have taken him at 11 if he would have been there? For sure! Would trading up for him have been an option? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdBlueNorth Posted August 23, 2009 Author Share Posted August 23, 2009 No way Greenbay would have traded away, so that meant having to trade up 3 spots in the top 10. That is going to cost you bigtime (see what the Jets had to give up to trade up to 5). The cost issue versus the needs of the Bills is where the problem is/was. It would have meant trying to rebuild the o-line with 3rd round picks it's best. Did Raji look great? He sure did. Should we have taken him at 11 if he would have been there? For sure! Would trading up for him have been an option? No. Now THAT was a sane post. Yes, that would have cost the Bills, and yes they would have had to target a team that picked prior to GB. Everyone knew the Pack wanted Raji. The Raiders or the Jaguars both would have been fairly certain of still getting their man at the 11th position so I think there was the potential, but I do not think that the Bills brass had a DT in their sights. They were going edge rusher all the way. Obviously it is water under the bridge, and I am trying to talk about something other than how bad the team looked last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Hardly the point of my original post.... "zazie"? There is very little rational thought on the board at the moment, particularly from Erik and his apparent entourage of zazies. OK so moving up 2 spots in a draft is impossible - I get the logic I thought Raji looked good, and would have looked good in a Bills uniform - we will see how Maybin's coming out party compares. Like I said before, I hope I am wrong and that he lights things up ala a young Jason Taylor. Whatever...moving on so I can read more of the enlightened posts by Erik. Now folks THAT is funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazie Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Now THAT was a sane post. Yes, that would have cost the Bills, and yes they would have had to target a team that picked prior to GB. Everyone knew the Pack wanted Raji. The Raiders or the Jaguars both would have been fairly certain of still getting their man at the 11th position so I think there was the potential, but I do not think that the Bills brass had a DT in their sights. They were going edge rusher all the way. Obviously it is water under the bridge, and I am trying to talk about something other than how bad the team looked last night. It is the actual money cost that makes the scenario impossible. No way would RW have approved going up and drafting a guy that was going to cost him millions more to sign. Simple as that. It is stupid to contemplate anyway; it did not happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Maybin sounds too much like Maybe It's tough to argue with this sort of scintillating analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in Pasadena Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 It's tough to argue with this sort of scintillating analysis. I was thinking that "BJ" sounded too much like.....BJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Given the ownage pressure Raji applied he would have fixed the tampa 2 scheme for sure, however he went at 9 we drafted at 11. Trading up would have cost us Wood and Levitire, which would have meant having no o-line at all. true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 i dont know but their new toy sure looked good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_red Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I wanted BJ or Orakpo. We got Maybin. ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 It's tough to argue with this sort of scintillating analysis. Don't knock it. That guy that figured out the "Loss-man" thing a couple years ago was dead on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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