bills1960 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 It has the Bills taking Maybin over Orakpo? I dont' understand, I can see them taking Maybin, but over Orakpo? That's pushing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 It's Maybin all the way. The guy has a phenomenal first step with a ton of upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPicc2114 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I agree.. Maybin is clearly better.. the best first step of all the linemen in the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I think Orakpo is the safer bet to be a complete DE. Maybin could be a bust, or a superstar, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fewell733 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Orakpo has a few warts - Texas laziness, might be injury prone, few/no pass rush moves. I think the laziness might be overstated since he couldn't be in as phenomenal condition as he is if he didn't work his a$s off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 When the Buccaneers took Cadillac Williams it was between him and DeMarcus Ware. The knock on Ware was that teams thought that he was too "one dimensional". I wonder if they wished that they rethought that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bourbonboy Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 They both scare me, but I'd rather see the Bills take Orakpo if he's there...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Orakpo has a few warts - Texas laziness, might be injury prone, few/no pass rush moves. I think the laziness might be overstated since he couldn't be in as phenomenal condition as he is if he didn't work his a$s off. All that talk seems to come from posters, from what I have seen. I don't know that I have seen a single profile of him, from a respected site, that has called him "lazy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 When the Buccaneers took Cadillac Williams it was between him and DeMarcus Ware. The knock on Ware was that teams thought that he was too "one dimensional". I wonder if they wished that they rethought that pick. Cadillac Williams looked excellent before the injury. In fact, you may recall him running right over the Bills when they played in Tampa in 05. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bourbonboy Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Cadillac Williams looked excellent before the injury. In fact, you may recall him running right over the Bills when they played in Tampa in 05. I remember - he looked unstoppable, but if I recall he only had a couple games like that before the Caddy ran out of gas, and never looked the same again. Just our luck that we were the roadkill for one of those games.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I remember - he looked unstoppable, but if I recall he only had a couple games like that before the Caddy ran out of gas, and never looked the same again. Just our luck that we were the roadkill for one of those games.... His first three games, he was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Cadillac Williams looked excellent before the injury. In fact, you may recall him running right over the Bills when they played in Tampa in 05. No doubt but when all things are somewhat equal defense should first and as great as Williams started off that Ware turned out to be a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I think Orakpo is the safer bet to be a complete DE. Maybin could be a bust, or a superstar, IMO. agreed. maybin scares me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 No doubt but when all things are somewhat equal defense should first and as great as Williams started off that Ware turned out to be a stud. And, had Williams not suffered that injury, he might have produced some of the greatest rushing stats of our lifetime...at the rate he was going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fewell733 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 His first three games, he was awesome. Gruden ran him into the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 It's Maybin all the way. The guy has a phenomenal first step with a ton of upside. I agree.. Maybin is clearly better.. the best first step of all the linemen in the draft Because clearly only one step around the tackle gets you to the QB. I really can't take it when fans regurgitate garbage that they hear, and then decide that it's their opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 It has the Bills taking Maybin over Orakpo? I dont' understand, I can see them taking Maybin, but over Orakpo? That's pushing it. What will be Maybin's natural playing weight? Sure he put some on for the draft but he'll return close to his original weight in time. I think Orakpo is the better pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhg Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 And, had Williams not suffered that injury, he might have produced some of the greatest rushing stats of our lifetime...at the rate he was going. Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Seriously? Sure, why not? Of course I'm not saying he WOULD have, but here are his first three games, before suffering an injury: 148 yards (against the Vikings), 128 yards (Bills), 158 yards (Packers). The point I'm making is, he was the guy they thought he was when they drafted him. Going back and lamenting they didn't pick someone else is ridiculous. He was great...and he was overused and got hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Maybin is a damn good pass rusher, but his run defense is questionable at best. Orakpo, meanwhile, has a lot of negative buzz from a few scouts... some believe he shouldn't even be a first rounder. Orakpo seems to have Vernon Gholston syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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