Coach Tuesday Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 More and more mocks have us picking Maybin at 11. I confess that I haven't seen him play or work out. I know he's sort of a one-year wonder and had something like 22 tackles for a loss this year. Any PSU fans out there who can fill us in on this guy? Is he explosive? A leader? Were his tackles behind the LOS solo efforts, for the most part? Did he win battles to get back there? Or were they more schematic as far as you can tell? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 He sucks. He'll be poorly coached in buffalo and will be another wasted pick. oh , sorry, just get a jump on next years threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 More and more mocks have us picking Maybin at 11. I confess that I haven't seen him play or work out. I know he's sort of a one-year wonder and had something like 22 tackles for a loss this year. Any PSU fans out there who can fill us in on this guy? Is he explosive? A leader? Were his tackles behind the LOS solo efforts, for the most part? Did he win battles to get back there? Or were they more schematic as far as you can tell? Thanks in advance. I don't want him. i don't want any of the DEs listed at the top. Try as hard as you can to trade down or if you have to, draft a big person (Raji or Jerry or one of the top tackles or Rey depending on his pro day). Sorry to hijack but the thought of one of these DEs at #11 scares me a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Maybin was considered too small for the DE in the NFL weighing in at 230 during the PSU season. He then showed up at the combine weighing 250, having put on 20 pounds. His combine performance was a little disappointing, his 40 times were slower due to the extra weight. The overall consensus on him, one year wonder or not, is that he has the most explosive first step of any DE/OLB in the draft. If you go to http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3919153&a...egoryid=2459789 McShay goes over in film exactly how fast he can be off the edge The downside is that he seems to get overmanned in the run game at times. If we drafted him I think he could be an excellent situational pass rusher. I think we might need someone who would be more of an everydown player, but if Chris Ellis shows a little more development than he did last year, Maybin's ceiling is very high and he could fit in very well into our system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Maybin was considered too small for the DE in the NFL weighing in at 230 during the PSU season. He then showed up at the combine weighing 250, having put on 20 pounds. His combine performance was a little disappointing, his 40 times were slower due to the extra weight. The overall consensus on him, one year wonder or not, is that he has the most explosive first step of any DE/OLB in the draft. If you go to http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3919153&a...egoryid=2459789 McShay goes over in film exactly how fast he can be off the edge The downside is that he seems to get overmanned in the run game at times. If we drafted him I think he could be an excellent situational pass rusher. I think we might need someone who would be more of an everydown player, but if Chris Ellis shows a little more development than he did last year, Maybin's ceiling is very high and he could fit in very well into our system Hmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 If we pick Maybin it will be another long list of dumbass picks.. maybin is no wheres ready for the NFL and the Bills can't afford a project, and that is what Maybin is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 More and more mocks have us picking Maybin at 11. I confess that I haven't seen him play or work out. I know he's sort of a one-year wonder and had something like 22 tackles for a loss this year. Any PSU fans out there who can fill us in on this guy? Is he explosive? A leader? Were his tackles behind the LOS solo efforts, for the most part? Did he win battles to get back there? Or were they more schematic as far as you can tell? Thanks in advance. I think if Brown or Orakpo aren't there at 11, then you look at another position besides DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 How about Brown out of Florida State? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Maybin was considered too small for the DE in the NFL weighing in at 230 during the PSU season. He then showed up at the combine weighing 250, having put on 20 pounds. His combine performance was a little disappointing, his 40 times were slower due to the extra weight. The overall consensus on him, one year wonder or not, is that he has the most explosive first step of any DE/OLB in the draft. If you go to http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3919153&a...egoryid=2459789 McShay goes over in film exactly how fast he can be off the edge The downside is that he seems to get overmanned in the run game at times. If we drafted him I think he could be an excellent situational pass rusher. I think we might need someone who would be more of an everydown player, but if Chris Ellis shows a little more development than he did last year, Maybin's ceiling is very high and he could fit in very well into our system Thanks for that link Beastmode54. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I think if Brown or Orakpo aren't there at 11, then you look at another position besides DE. I concur 200% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJPearl2 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Thanks for that link Beastmode54. I watched that Todd McShay piece and when he said "high motor" I threw up in my mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 He has ridiculous speed.... could be like Jason Taylor from years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Maybin can be effective if used as a pass rusher from DE and LB. Rotate him around with Kelsay, Denney and whoever is at OLB and you have yourself a player the offense has to account for at all times. Is he a complete player? At this point no, but he's a good specialist that can develop. Orakpo and Brown are both slated to be tweener DE/OLB as well and I like Maybin more so than Brown as a pass rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Maybin was considered too small for the DE in the NFL weighing in at 230 during the PSU season. He then showed up at the combine weighing 250, having put on 20 pounds. His combine performance was a little disappointing, his 40 times were slower due to the extra weight. The overall consensus on him, one year wonder or not, is that he has the most explosive first step of any DE/OLB in the draft. If you go to http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3919153&a...egoryid=2459789 McShay goes over in film exactly how fast he can be off the edge The downside is that he seems to get overmanned in the run game at times. If we drafted him I think he could be an excellent situational pass rusher. I think we might need someone who would be more of an everydown player, but if Chris Ellis shows a little more development than he did last year, Maybin's ceiling is very high and he could fit in very well into our system 20 lbs of weight gain in a month for a guy his size isn't natural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 20 lbs of weight gain in a month for a guy his size isn't natural. I thought that too. I'm not sure if he gained it during the course of the year, which could be possible, or in a short time before the combine. If it was before the combine then I would say a lot of it was most likely water weight, which can be gained easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 20 lbs of weight gain in a month for a guy his size isn't natural. See also this allegation about Cushing: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/risersandfallers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiobuffalo Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 he is only 20 or 21 years old and gained 20lbs at the combine i think he would be a soild OLB or DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Big ten players are hardly ever effective at the NFL level. Maybin would be a very bad and risky pick at #11. Which is why our stupid FO will probably end up picking him. Right now, this would be my pecking order at #11... Crabtree WR Raji DT Orakpo DE Brown DE Pettigrew TE Jackson DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 LMAO... now players that come from certain conferences are no good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiobuffalo Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Big ten players are hardly ever effective at the NFL level. Maybin would be a very bad and risky pick at #11. Which is why our stupid FO will probably end up picking him. Right now, this would be my pecking order at #11... Crabtree WR Raji DT Orakpo DE Brown DE Pettigrew TE Jackson DE why would we get a WR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoring is not hardy Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I go back and forth on Maybin. To me he has the most upside of all the ends, including Johnson. Maybin is an athletic freak with an amazing first step. However, are we in a position to let him develop for a couple years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Big ten players are hardly ever effective at the NFL level. Maybin would be a very bad and risky pick at #11. Which is why our stupid FO will probably end up picking him. Right now, this would be my pecking order at #11... Crabtree WR Raji DT Orakpo DE Brown DE Pettigrew TE Jackson DE Braylon Edwards, Jake Long, Santonio Holmes, Marion Barber, Joe Thomas, Poz, Lamarr Woodley, and those are just a few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 why would we get a WR? IMO Crabtree is so good he'd be impossible to pass on. I mentioned in another thread about S. Johnson being the perfect fit at #2 WR, but the exception is if Crabtree fell. He's got HOF talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I go back and forth on Maybin. To me he has the most upside of all the ends, including Johnson. Maybin is an athletic freak with an amazing first step. However, are we in a position to let him develop for a couple years? That is EXACTLY the question I keep raising. Good thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoring is not hardy Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 IMO Crabtree is so good he'd be impossible to pass on. I mentioned in another thread about S. Johnson being the perfect fit at #2 WR, but the exception is if Crabtree fell. He's got HOF talent. I agree, but I don't see any scenario where he gets past Oakland, Jacksonville, and San Fransisco. Not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Braylon Edwards, Jake Long, Santonio Holmes, Marion Barber, Joe Thomas, Poz, Lamarr Woodley, and those are just a few Poz and Edwards??? Sorry, but both are on the path of being busts. I'll give you that they churn out very good offensive lineman. You got me on that. There are the exceptions as in Woodley and Barber, and Holmes, but for the most part Big Ten players suck in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Poz and Edwards??? Sorry, but both are on the path of being busts. I'll give you that they churn out very good offensive lineman. You got me on that. There are the exception as in Woodley and Barber, and Holmes, but for the most part Big Ten players suck in the NFL. Brilliant to call a MLB, who essentially was a rookie and was part of a defense that went from 31st to 14th. a bust already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Poz and Edwards??? Sorry, but both are on the path of being busts. I'll give you that they churn out very good offensive lineman. You got me on that. There are the exceptions as in Woodley and Barber, and Holmes, but for the most part Big Ten players suck in the NFL. Tom Brady (Michigan) says hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I would hardly call Braylon a bust either. He is 2 years removed from a 1200+ yard and 16 TD season. Last year he had a case of the drops and still had over 800 yards receiving. Not a great year last year, but not a bust. He also had over 800 yards receiving in his second year. If any of our second year players do that, I'll be thrilled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly McButterpants Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 If we pick Maybin it will be another long list of dumbass picks.. maybin is no wheres ready for the NFL and the Bills can't afford a project, and that is what Maybin is... Bingo! Can we move along from this? I'll be very disappointed if they select Maybin. He has Eric Flowers written all over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Bingo! Can we move along from this? I'll be very disappointed if they select Maybin. He has Eric Flowers written all over him. Well, I don't know much about the current crop of Bills' linebackers. Except that I haven't heard the name of one of them mentioned by any media outlet all last season, as doing anything noteworthy of especial mention. "Feature " running backs, receivers, safeties, DE, OT, etc.... I want a feature LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Tom Brady (Michigan) says hi. With 1,696 players in the league there are bound to be a few exceptions. You can count on Maybin being a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 With 1,696 players in the league there are bound to be a few exceptions. You can count on Maybin being a bust. Drew Brees Jason Witten Flozell Adams Steve Hutchison Julian Peterson Charles Woodson Antoine Winfield Kerry Collins Kris Dielman Owen Daniels Jake Long Nick Mangold Casey Wiegmann Courtesy of the 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Ok, so let me get this straight...No California players, no Big 10 players, All WRs must be 6'4 or taller, No Texas players, DE's must be at least 280lbs and not white, no LBers under 6'2 250, No Ohio State players....any restrictions I missed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanky46 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 More and more mocks have us picking Maybin at 11. I confess that I haven't seen him play or work out. I know he's sort of a one-year wonder and had something like 22 tackles for a loss this year. Any PSU fans out there who can fill us in on this guy? Is he explosive? A leader? Were his tackles behind the LOS solo efforts, for the most part? Did he win battles to get back there? Or were they more schematic as far as you can tell? Thanks in advance. I watched Path to the Draft last night and Mayock stated that Maybin's only redeemimg factor is speed and he was terrible at the combine. Not only in the forty but also in the linebacker drills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 3, 2009 Author Share Posted March 3, 2009 I watched Path to the Draft last night and Mayock stated that Maybin's only redeemimg factor is speed and he was terrible at the combine. Not only in the forty but also in the linebacker drills. IF that is the case I'm hoping we don't take him. I'd rather grab a complete player. This team has too many holes as it is, not to mention a disturbing inability to retain young players beyond their rookie contracts and attract free agents. In other words, if Cushing is a more complete LB, I'd take him over Maybin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Ok, so let me get this straight...No California players, no Big 10 players, All WRs must be 6'4 or taller, No Texas players, DE's must be at least 280lbs and not white, no LBers under 6'2 250, No Ohio State players....any restrictions I missed? Florida State defensive ends I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I watched Path to the Draft last night and Mayock stated that Maybin's only redeemimg factor is speed and he was terrible at the combine. Not only in the forty but also in the linebacker drills. I didn't hear Mayock say that. I respect his opinion greatly. Maybe we should pass on Maybin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Ok, so let me get this straight...No California players, no Big 10 players, All WRs must be 6'4 or taller, No Texas players, DE's must be at least 280lbs and not white, no LBers under 6'2 250, No Ohio State players....any restrictions I missed? Also, no Oklahoma State players like former Bills' first rounders Phil Dokes, Rueben Gant, or Terry Miller. We can however draft Oklahoma State players in the second round like Thurman Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Ok, so let me get this straight...No California players, no Big 10 players, All WRs must be 6'4 or taller, No Texas players, DE's must be at least 280lbs and not white, no LBers under 6'2 250, No Ohio State players....any restrictions I missed? no fat chicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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