Beerball Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 inside the 10, minute left they spike the ball on first down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 inside the 10, minute left they spike the ball on first down Big Ben is looking very JPish in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 WTF were they thinking?? That was a Jauron call. Trying to save time for the Ravens to come back? Gonna be an interesting review here. And if they uphold the call, does Pitts go for the win on 4th? Good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 WTF were they thinking?? That was a Jauron call. Trying to save time for the Ravens to come back? Gonna be an interesting review here. And if they uphold the call, does Pitts go for the win on 4th? Good game. Gotta kick the FG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 WTF were they thinking?? That was a Jauron call. Trying to save time for the Ravens to come back? Gonna be an interesting review here. And if they uphold the call, does Pitts go for the win on 4th? Good game. It looks to me like the ball touched the plane of the goal line, but I don't think he had possession until he came down. I think the call stands....and Tomlin kicks the FG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 WTF were they thinking?? That was a Jauron call. Trying to save time for the Ravens to come back? Gonna be an interesting review here. And if they uphold the call, does Pitts go for the win on 4th? Good game. wow, he was not in. go for it? eat my words, they gave him the TD. Did the ball ever cross the plane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobilz Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 That's interesting. He didn't say the ball crossed the plane. He said "two feet in the end zone + possession". Is that a touchdown? Don't recall seeing that situation before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobilz Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 we are cursed.Pitt is blessed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Great time to have a defensive meltdown, Ravens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJPearl2 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Pitt is blessed because they have a great front office and great players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Pitt is blessed because they have a great front office and great players. "Find a way to win". Obviously the Bills have the opposite mantra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 That's interesting. He didn't say the ball crossed the plane. He said "two feet in the end zone + possession". Is that a touchdown? Don't recall seeing that situation before. I always thought the ball had to cross. Guess not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I always thought the ball had to cross. Guess not. me too..wtf is that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I always thought the ball had to cross. Guess not. Two feet = one ball? Actually, I guess that makes sense. If a guy makes a catch at the back of the endzone where he reaches over the back line and drags his feet, it's a TD. I guess we just aren't used to thinking of it from the perspective of the front of the EZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 That's interesting. He didn't say the ball crossed the plane. He said "two feet in the end zone + possession". Is that a touchdown? Don't recall seeing that situation before. It was sort of loud here at the time. Didn't he also mumble something about the ball being "in" the plane? It doesn't matter where his feet were. I think they blew that one either way, there wasn't enough there to overturn what I thought was a great call on the field by the head linesman. If a guy makes a catch at the back of the endzone where he reaches over the back line and drags his feet, it's a TD. That's cuz at the back of the endzone the ball has already crossed the goalline by 10 yards. Apples to oranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Two feet = one ball? Actually, I guess that makes sense. If a guy makes a catch at the back of the endzone where he reaches over the back line and drags his feet, it's a TD. I guess we just aren't used to thinking of it from the perspective of the front of the EZ. now your explanation makes absolutely no sense...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 It was sort of loud here at the time. Didn't he also mumble something about the ball being "in" the plane?It doesn't matter where his feet were. I think they blew that one either way, there wasn't enough there to overturn what I thought was a great call on the field by the head linesman. The announcers seemed to agree with the call on the field that the ball didn't break the plane. Very hard to say because it's hard to tell from the side view exactly when he makes the catch. It was very close...IMO too close to overturn on the decision of whether or not he broke the plane. So I guess they gave it to them because his feet were down in the EZ. That's cuz at the back of the endzone the ball has already crossed the goalline by 10 yards. Apples to oranges. But that's irrelevant until the ball is in someone's hands, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 IMO too close to overturn on the decision of whether or not he broke the plane. So I guess they gave it to them because his feet were down in the EZ. I agree the call on the field should have stood regardless of what it was. But the location of his feet is irrelevant and I don't know why the guy even mentioned it other than to establish that/when he had possession. His whole body can be in the endzone but if the ball doesn't hit the line it is not a TD so there's no way they gave it to him because of where his feet were. But that's irrelevant until the ball is in someone's hands, right? Yeah, I'm just saying it isn't a good comparison with this play because in this case (Bal/Pitt) the only thing that matters is whether the ball broke the plane, while in the back of the endzone the plane is irrelevant and the only thing that matters is feetdown w/ possession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 But the location of his feet is irrelevant and I don't know why the guy even mentioned it other than to establish that/when he had possession.His whole body can be in the endzone but if the ball doesn't hit the line it is not a TD so there's no way they gave it to him because of where his feet were. Yup, at the core it's a rules question. If two feet and possession (without breaking the plane) is NOT a touchdown, than it was a bad reversal. But that's what the ref specifically said in his explanation of the reversal, hence my original post on the subject. Yeah, I'm just saying it isn't a good comparison with this play because in this case (Bal/Pitt) the only thing that matters is whether the ball broke the plane, while in the back of the endzone the plane is irrelevant and the only thing that matters is feetdown w/ possession. So are the rules are different in the front and back of the EZ? I didn't know that. I understand the practical nature of it, but that seems odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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