stuckincincy Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Yeah you did just Fine hahaha Calling Dr. Howard, Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 After such a promising first 4 picks and our TE was there. Who was our TE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 No More GAYhawks please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In space no one can hear Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 This pick certainly isn't inspiring Don't you dare tell me everything will be fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Wing '73 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Check out who he is bowling over in this one... http://media.kusports.com/img/wallpapers/2...ne_1024x768.jpg I thought that guy played for the Armidillos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risin Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 I agree you may be looking at our future fullback What about the scouting reports that call him a "sub-par blocker" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huuuge Bills Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 DAMNIT!!! I was wishing that I would have heard of every player we drafted today! But because I don't know who they are, I'm just going to get mad for NO REASON!! Me too, Marv's old! That'll show em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInSouthBuffalo Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Reminds me of Derek Schouman who is already on the Bills roster. I thought they might address line depth. Oh well........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 According to the reports, he has great hands and runs precise routes. I also recall that he was very productive for KU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 I does kind of remind me of Chris Cooley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Gun10 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Why Not Owen Schmitt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPicc2114 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 What about the scouting reports that call him a "sub-par blocker" ? lets see one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 I'm not upset, but I think the people who are feel we are drafting projected 7th rounders in the 4th. Correct ... People are reading the draft projections. Both of our 4th rounders were projected as 7th or UDFA. You never know? I trust Modrak and the coaches more than the people who write the draft marketing data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Sorry but the last 2 picks have sucked (both should have been 7th-UDFA) with the DE pick not that bad I agree 100% I'm mystified by this draft so far. Every pick after Leodis McKelvin has some problem associated with them that makes them a questionable pick IMO. TE | (6'2", 251, 4.849) | KANSAS Scouts Grade: 35 Flags: (S: SPEED) Player lacks ideal speed at position Strengths: Hybrid capable of lining up at both the tight end and fullback position. Quick off the ball and able to avoid contact working against press coverage. Does a good job of selling the run and gets into the flats quickly off play action. Smooth, runs clean routes and is at best getting open underneath. Has a wide frame and does a nice job of using his body to shield defenders from the ball. Possesses an understanding of how to attack defenders and set up breaks. Appears to read defenses well and does a nice job of finding open areas working against zone coverage. Gives great effort as an in-line blocker and is relentless once in position. Takes sound angles to blocks, flashes the ability to adjust to the moving target in space and can get into position at the second level. Is as effective lead blocking from the backfield as he is lined up at tight end and is somewhat versatile. Weaknesses: Lacks top-end speed and isn't going to stretch the middle of the field. Lacks the overall strength to consistently sustain blocks, loses balance at times and is seen on the ground a lot. Does not have great body control and struggles to adjust to passes thrown outside frame. Overall: Fine signed with Kansas in 2002 but didn't enroll because of an injury. After redshirting the 2003 season, he played in all 35 of the Jayhawks' games (19 starts) over the next three years (2004-06'), collecting 52 receptions for 615 yards (11.8 average) and six touchdowns. Fine played in all 13 games (10 starts) as a senior, hauling in 46 catches for 394 yards (8.6 average) and four touchdowns. He also was a productive contributor on special teams coverage units during his career (11 tackles, 10 assists). Bottom line: Fine is versatile enough to provide depth for a team that likes to use H-Backs but he doesn't have prototypical speed or power so he projects as a seventh round pick. Linkage This draft is a C so far in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Maybe he'll turn out to be a fine blocking back for Marshawn? Well, that' fine as long as there aren't off field issues, he's really walking a fine line. Drafted where he was a fine could really hurt his pocketbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 I agree 100% I'm mystified by this draft so far. Every pick after Leodis McKelvin has some problem associated with them that makes them a questionable pick IMO. TE | (6'2", 251, 4.849) | KANSAS Scouts Grade: 35 Flags: (S: SPEED) Player lacks ideal speed at position Strengths: Hybrid capable of lining up at both the tight end and fullback position. Quick off the ball and able to avoid contact working against press coverage. Does a good job of selling the run and gets into the flats quickly off play action. Smooth, runs clean routes and is at best getting open underneath. Has a wide frame and does a nice job of using his body to shield defenders from the ball. Possesses an understanding of how to attack defenders and set up breaks. Appears to read defenses well and does a nice job of finding open areas working against zone coverage. Gives great effort as an in-line blocker and is relentless once in position. Takes sound angles to blocks, flashes the ability to adjust to the moving target in space and can get into position at the second level. Is as effective lead blocking from the backfield as he is lined up at tight end and is somewhat versatile. Weaknesses: Lacks top-end speed and isn't going to stretch the middle of the field. Lacks the overall strength to consistently sustain blocks, loses balance at times and is seen on the ground a lot. Does not have great body control and struggles to adjust to passes thrown outside frame. Overall: Fine signed with Kansas in 2002 but didn't enroll because of an injury. After redshirting the 2003 season, he played in all 35 of the Jayhawks' games (19 starts) over the next three years (2004-06'), collecting 52 receptions for 615 yards (11.8 average) and six touchdowns. Fine played in all 13 games (10 starts) as a senior, hauling in 46 catches for 394 yards (8.6 average) and four touchdowns. He also was a productive contributor on special teams coverage units during his career (11 tackles, 10 assists). Bottom line: Fine is versatile enough to provide depth for a team that likes to use H-Backs but he doesn't have prototypical speed or power so he projects as a seventh round pick. Linkage This draft is a C so far in my opinion. Still going with an A- or B+. We've addressed our needs and I think Fine will be a fine young player for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Anderson's Lunch Pail Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 I think a lot of this is special teams driven. You have to remember, we lost Wire, Haggen, Stamer and Aiken. We need to replenish our special teams. I think it's a good thing that the team is conscious of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv Levy Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 He's just the kind of player Steve Fairchild looks for Please don't say that last name on this board anymore, please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike formerly from Florida Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 I think a lot of this is special teams driven. You have to remember, we lost Wire, Haggen, Stamer and Aiken. We need to replenish our special teams. I think it's a good thing that the team is conscious of this. Very good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 I think a lot of this is special teams driven. You have to remember, we lost Wire, Haggen, Stamer and Aiken. We need to replenish our special teams. I think it's a good thing that the team is conscious of this. Yeah, those guys were the core of why we have had the best or top 3 special teams units for the last few years. If we want to have any chance against the Pats*, Chargers, etc. we have to beat them in that phase of the game. And Moorman has to have a better year.... That's 4 guys to replace too, not just 1 or 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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