nodnarb Posted October 15, 2004 Author Share Posted October 15, 2004 Will either of you even consider the part (even if not the whole reason) that missed hot reads played into this decision? It's right there on tape. I feel like a broken record. 71307[/snapback] if that was a valid criteria to cut a player with obvious value to other teams, then: 1. Bledsoe would have been cut due to not seeing the field, taking bad sacks at the worst times, not getting rid of the ball, not throwing it away, not shuffling to create more space for himself, missing the route adjustment with moulds, fumbling the ball to give a game away, and any other number of offenses that qood quarterbacks don't make. 2. Mike Williams would have been cut due to his being shredded by LBs in Oakland. 3. Jonas Jennings would have been cut due to his being shredded by Abraham in NY 4. Reed would have been cut for continuing to produce nothing 5. Travis Henry would have been cut for missing holes, tripping, and missing blocks 6. Takeo SPikes would have been cut for missing two key tackles in the Jets' final winning drive. 7. McGee would have been cut for getting picked on and not making a play all day. It goes on and on...Shaw has more production through 4 games than Reed, and has had about 1/3 the opportunities. These arguments are baseless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOOOOOO Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Nod.... Shaw is 30 and Reed is 24....... Why would you cut Reed over Shaw....Has Shaw been that much better?? Noooo You cut the older guy in this situation and you hope the youngster can come around..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 if that was a valid criteria to cut a player with obvious value to other teams, then: 1. Bledsoe would have been cut due to not seeing the field, taking bad sacks at the worst times, not getting rid of the ball, not throwing it away, not shuffling to create more space for himself, missing the route adjustment with moulds, fumbling the ball to give a game away, and any other number of offenses that qood quarterbacks don't make. 2. Mike Williams would have been cut due to his being shredded by LBs in Oakland. 71358[/snapback] That would have made me very happy indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 You can keep a player on your roster, but you can't make him play. Shaw may very well play like an all-pro in New England becuase he wants a ring. But what was the point of keeping him on the Bills if he was going to dog it, other than to keep another team from signing him? Did the Bills make a mistake cutting Antowain Smith? He played great in NE but like stevestojan in Buffalo! Like I said, you can't make a player play for you. He's got to want to. I would rather have players who want to be in Buffalo. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 I think I found a link and blurb about Bobby Shaw: Bobby Shaw Signs 71440[/snapback] Huh? WTF? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 You SOB!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 AAaagghhh!!! My eyes! My eyes! Someone post a picture of the fairy to make the image go away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinVA Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 I think I found a link and blurb about Bobby Shaw: Bobby Shaw Signs 71440[/snapback] "Kevin is a smart, articulate person, and he works extremely well with quarterbacks" heres a great quote from the article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofiba Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 if you think thats bad, check out #2 on this list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 if that was a valid criteria to cut a player with obvious value to other teams, then: 1. Bledsoe would have been cut due to not seeing the field, taking bad sacks at the worst times, not getting rid of the ball, not throwing it away, not shuffling to create more space for himself, missing the route adjustment with moulds, fumbling the ball to give a game away, and any other number of offenses that qood quarterbacks don't make. 2. Mike Williams would have been cut due to his being shredded by LBs in Oakland. 3. Jonas Jennings would have been cut due to his being shredded by Abraham in NY 4. Reed would have been cut for continuing to produce nothing 5. Travis Henry would have been cut for missing holes, tripping, and missing blocks 6. Takeo SPikes would have been cut for missing two key tackles in the Jets' final winning drive. 7. McGee would have been cut for getting picked on and not making a play all day. It goes on and on...Shaw has more production through 4 games than Reed, and has had about 1/3 the opportunities. These arguments are baseless. 71358[/snapback] The problem is that was not my argument. Shaw has a HISTORY, not one game, a HISTORY. My EXAMPLE was the jets game because that's fresh in people's minds, but it occured multiple times last season, and I would assume it has carried over in practice as well. There was also mention last season of Shaw running "poor routes" which could include "poor" reads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BiB_ Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 What happens to the roster spot? It will be filled by.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 What happens to the roster spot? It will be filled by.... 71460[/snapback] R.Rich? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BiB_ Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 R.Rich? 71465[/snapback] That I'd like to see, but he keeps whining like a little girl that he's too old and out of shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Tip you waitstaff... 71298[/snapback] i hope stevestojan doesn't see your typo. he might have something to say about your grammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 i hope stevestojan doesn't see your typo. he might have something to say about your grammer. 71510[/snapback] I don't even know if that's a real word and am too lazy to look it up. Took a shot. Apologies in advance to people who perform such duties. FWIW, I tip very well when deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 FWIW, I tip very well when deserved. 71515[/snapback] I think i tip too well sometimes when its NOT desevered. I guess i feel im obligated to at least 20% even if they SUCK... I gotta reconsider that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BiB_ Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 I don't even know if that's a real word and am too lazy to look it up. Took a shot. Apologies in advance to people who perform such duties. FWIW, I tip very well when deserved. 71515[/snapback] Is this some oblique slam at waitstaff? Who spend many tireless hours on their feet everyday making sure people like you get extra icecream on their pie? How elitist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Is this some oblique slam at waitstaff? Who spend many tireless hours on their feet everyday making sure people like you get extra icecream on their pie? How elitist. 71519[/snapback] Dead nutz. As usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper13 Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Well, at least NE is now taking our garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxboro Mike Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Does Shaw play special teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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