Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 On NFL Live he said that because the the Bengals cut Chris Henry they are becoming very interested in getting Kelly. They are sending scouts and a WR coach to his workout on April 9th. Also he mentioned that they might trade down to the Bills because they know that we need a WR too. I don't know what to make of this. I say we don't give into the Bengals possible trade up offer. I still think Sweed or Thomas might be better than Kelly at this point. Did I forget to mention how deep the WR class is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJPearl2 Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 They can have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerjamhead Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Cool - one less team in front of Buffalo that might be thinking about taking Rivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Terrific, we get Ellis at #9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBilliever Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 But... but that would be a reachzors!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 But... but that would be a reachzors!?!?! Its only a reach if the Bills pick him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Interesting rumour. But with TJ and CJ (for now) still in the fold WR isn't a pressing need. Especially considering how bad their D is. Passing on Ellis would be dumb of them, and if they did, we would take him. If they are planning on dealing CJ then WR becomes a major priority for them, otherwise, I don't see it. But them sending scouts to his workout means something. Maybe they think he could fall to round two if he bombs the workout and they would take him there. Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamOnDan Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Terrific, we get Ellis at #9. Oh Yeah! Now there is a guy that is worth picking even though we seem set at DT. There isn't too many DL with that kind of talent. At 11, I'm not really about drafting the 3rd DE, or any position that isn't absolutely terrible. But Gholston, C Long, Ellis, or Dorsey was available at 11 I'd crap. There is a HUGE dropoff at the D line after those 4. The next wave of DL are way overvalued right now because the way the Giants won the superbowl. Now, I'm not saying that there aren't guys that are going to develope and be really good D-lineman someday. I'm saying that any DL outside of these 4 is a bigger reach than whoever the Bills have ranked as the #1 player at other positions. And the four players mentioned are way way more NFL ready than the "next wave" which will come off the board way too fast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherman Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Any chance they may be trying to work a three way trade with Johnson for Shepard working it's way in there somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 ellis would make our DT rotation Stroud, williams, ellis, mccargo, johnson that's pretty freaking monster mix in the fact that ellis and johnson can also play DE, and you've got a serious line. see, all the guys talking about DLDLDLDLDL, i'll take one at 11 if it is a potential top 5 talent, but not some guy just because. if no top line is there we are better off taking WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Great NEws! #1 OLB Keith Rivers drops in our lap, and the Bills have the best LB corps since the good old days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Great NEws! #1 OLB Keith Rivers drops in our lap, and the Bills have the best LB corps since the good old days. If we drafted Rivers- what do you think about the possibility of playing more 3-4 defense? Can Stroud or McCargo play NT? If we played more 3-4 it would take a position some perceive to be thin(DT) and make it deep. Plus it would get 4 great LBs on the field. We could really confuse defenses and switch up formations constantly. I think Rivers gives us alot of flexibility and depth, and provides insurance if we lost Crowell- which I hope doesn't happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted April 7, 2008 Author Share Posted April 7, 2008 If we drafted Rivers- what do you think about the possibility of playing more 3-4 defense? Can Stroud or McCargo play NT? If we played more 3-4 it would take a position some perceive to be thin(DT) and make it deep. Plus it would get 4 great LBs on the field. We could really confuse defenses and switch up formations constantly. I think Rivers gives us alot of flexibility and depth, and provides insurance if we lost Crowell- which I hope doesn't happen Schobel - Stroud - Kelsay/Denney Crowell - Rivers - POZ - Mitchell That's not bad when you think about it, however I doubt this will happen because DJ likes the 4-3 defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 There has got to be a lot more to this than we know right now. I don't know why Buffalo would only want to move up two spots? It should only cost them one 4th round pick but I think that's too high for two spots. I guess it depends on who's available. This could also mean that the Bungles keep the first round pick and then trade for Buffalo's first round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In space no one can hear Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Great NEws! #1 OLB Keith Rivers drops in our lap, and the Bills have the best LB corps since the good old days. Taking Rivers makes no sense at all. None. Mitchell, Poz and Crowell are a solid starting lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerjamhead Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 If Rivers is the guy the Bills covet, I think they have to swap firsts with Baltimore. The value chart shows that they would probably have to toss in the 3rd round pick to get there though. Too pricey? I don't know... The Bills take the elite LB in the draft, and Baltimore takes either Clady or Otah (I'm thinking Clady) and essentially get their third rounder back from the Bills minus one draft position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Taking Rivers makes no sense at all. None. Mitchell, Poz and Crowell are a solid starting lineup. I disagree. I believe in drafting the best available player- and if Rivers falls to us he most likely is the highest rated. You can never have too many playmakers in your front 7. Check out my post about some 4-3 packages and let me know what you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerjamhead Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Taking Rivers makes no sense at all. None. Mitchell, Poz and Crowell are a solid starting lineup. So what does make sense? Please enlighten us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Terrific, we get Ellis at #9. That would be the best possible scenario, IMO. A monster D-line makes even ordinary LBs and CBs look great, so getting Ellis would be vastly preferable to landing either Rivers or one of the CB possibilities with the 11th pick. There are enough ways to trade back into the bottom of round one to snag the WR we need, which would be the best value place to get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 That would be the best possible scenario, IMO. A monster D-line makes even ordinary LBs and CBs look great, so getting Ellis would be vastly preferable IMO to landing either Rivers or one of the CB possibilities with the 11th pick. There are enough ways to trade back into the bottom of round one to snag the WR we need, which would be the best value place to get one. Ellis would be a great fit for the Bills. My draft board for the Bills is #1 Dorsey, #2 Ellis. I like Rivers too. Who knows who is going to drop on draft day- someone always does. We are sitting pretty at pick 11. Someone is gonna slide and the 11 slot for salary is doable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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