DeLuca1967 Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Numbers don't lie. 98 yds passing? Win 222 yds passing? Win 102 yds passing? Win It seems the less you rely on Loseman to make a play the better the Bills chances of victory. At some point the Bills may win a game 40-0 with Loseman not completing a pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Do you know what crusading is? Numbers don't lie. 98 yds passing? Win 222 yds passing? Win 102 yds passing? Win It seems the less you rely on Loseman to make a play the better the Bills chances of victory. At some point the Bills may win a game 40-0 with Loseman not completing a pass 827944[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Seriously, it would probably be wise to adjust the offense to maximize our strengths and minimize our weaknesses. That woule mean, in my opinion, go the two tight end route and often keeping a blocking back in. The running game is paramount, no question, but JP plays a huge role with passes to the tight end and to the running back with occassional (very occassional-once or twice a game) forays downfield to Evans. The net result is a low passing yardage for JP not because of JP but because of our adjustments to stop the pass rush. result? We get to keep the ball a lot longer with time killing drives, the "cover 2" folks we see have to cheat to stop the run...and the occassional bomb can be a game-breaker. Parcells has made a career out of that strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 The net result is a low passing yardage for JP not because of JP but because of our adjustments to stop the pass rush.827987[/snapback] No, no, no. You're not following his excessively repetitive, yet mindblowingly myopic point: "When we lose, it is because of JP, and when we win, it's in spite of him. That way, I am right and you all are wrong. Again." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Ignore the crusaders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazykat Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Numbers don't lie. 98 yds passing? Win 222 yds passing? Win 102 yds passing? Win It seems the less you rely on Loseman to make a play the better the Bills chances of victory. At some point the Bills may win a game 40-0 with Loseman not completing a pass 827944[/snapback] Right, we'll just rely on McGahee and our wonderful line who have powered him to one 100 yard game this season against the Jets. Seems to me that was the plan. What happened to it? Whose failure is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Wow, what a concept, lets not put all the pressure on, and rely on our young QB to win games for us and rely on other aspects of the game to win. What a concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillWalton Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Bottom line: quarterbacks taken in the first round should have the talent to win games for their teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Numbers don't lie. 98 yds passing? Win 222 yds passing? Win 102 yds passing? Win It seems the less you rely on Loseman to make a play the better the Bills chances of victory. At some point the Bills may win a game 40-0 with Loseman not completing a pass 827944[/snapback] Teams that put up these kind of numbers typically only beat teams that are really bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Teams that put up these kind of numbers typically only beat teams that are really bad. 828211[/snapback] Usually so, but every week there's a couple of games where the loser put up big numbers and the winner could barely get out of their own way. Poor PGH - ran the up big numbers on OAK and DEN but sit now at 2 and 6. Turnovers kill.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificCoastBillsFan Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Numbers don't lie. 98 yds passing? Win 222 yds passing? Win 102 yds passing? Win It seems the less you rely on Loseman to make a play the better the Bills chances of victory. At some point the Bills may win a game 40-0 with Loseman not completing a pass 827944[/snapback] Wow, are them not the type of numbers Big Ben had when the steelers went to the SB? Oh, what he was a rookie....just expected to manage the game and not loose it while he learns the system. While JP is not a rookie, he is not a "experienced vet" in a new system, so let him manage the game, and not turn the ball over.....No I am not saying he will lead us to the SB anytime soon. But he will gain the experience most QBs need, learn the current system, and hopefully get some connection with at least one of the recievers. But that makes too much sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Bottom line: quarterbacks taken in the first round should have the talent to win games for their teams. 828201[/snapback] No one should be forced to win games single handidly in a team game. And JP did win that game for us on Sunday, it was his TD pass to Evans that won the game. The defence kept us in the game, they didn't score the go ahead TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Teams that put up these kind of numbers typically only beat teams that are really bad. 828211[/snapback] absolutely correct. no dispute. it's a team game. you need a good team to play consistently to beat anything other than a bad team consistently. do we have that on offense yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Numbers don't lie. 98 yds passing? Win 222 yds passing? Win 102 yds passing? Win It seems the less you rely on Loseman to make a play the better the Bills chances of victory. At some point the Bills may win a game 40-0 with Loseman not completing a pass 827944[/snapback] This is actually how the Steelers went on to 15-1 in their first season... Of course that requires the running game, defense and ST to be on top of their game. Unfortunately, I don't think this bills team can excel in all those aspects consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Numbers don't lie. 98 yds passing? Win 222 yds passing? Win 102 yds passing? Win It seems the less you rely on Loseman to make a play the better the Bills chances of victory. At some point the Bills may win a game 40-0 with Loseman not completing a pass 827944[/snapback] I know the point of your post was to take another slap at JP. However, you may have actually stumbled onto something here. For as bad as the OL looked in pass protection on Sunday, they looked exceptional in run blocking (save for a couple of 3rd and 1 non-conversions). In fact, the Packers couldn't stop the rushing attack in the 4th quarter, when they needed to. Indy's run defense is their achilles heal. I would personally like to see our gameplan consist of something like a 2-1 run to pass ratio on Sunday to keep the Colts' offense on the sidelines. In order for that to happen the offense will have to avoid the penalties, of course, to keep us out of 3rd and long situations. Additionally greater commitment to the running game should force the Colts to back off their pass rushing -- and may set things up for some play-action passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Maybe they should get him to attend the same kind of classes that Seneca Wallace attended to help him learn. They said it did wonders for him and he seems to run the Seattle offense well, even without Shaun Alexander behind him to hand the ball off to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Do you know what crusading is? 827950[/snapback] What he doesn't know could fill a library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Poor PGH - ran the up big numbers on OAK and DEN but sit now at 2 and 6. Turnovers kill.. 828221[/snapback] I am still amazed at how bad they are playing. Interesting point from the Sports Guy and how the loser of the Super Bowl does not make the playoffs the following year. The theory is since the Seahawks got screwed so badly by the officials that Karma is now causing Pittsburgh to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 I am still amazed at how bad they are playing. Interesting point from the Sports Guy and how the loser of the Super Bowl does not make the playoffs the following year. The theory is since the Seahawks got screwed so badly by the officials that Karma is now causing Pittsburgh to lose. 828468[/snapback] I don't know, I guess the name of the woman driving the car that hit Big Ben while he cruised helmet less on a sports bike in the offseason could have been Karma. Big Ben having his bell rung multiple tiems definitly isn't helping Pittsburgh with their try for a repeat. I still don't buy into the, If the refs don't screw us we would have won the SB that everyone is on when it came to the Seahawks last year. Sure some calls where not going their way, but it was not the sole cause for them losing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 I don't know, I guess the name of the woman driving the car that hit Big Ben while he cruised helmet less on a sports bike in the offseason could have been Karma. Big Ben having his bell rung multiple tiems definitly isn't helping Pittsburgh with their try for a repeat. I still don't buy into the, If the refs don't screw us we would have won the SB that everyone is on when it came to the Seahawks last year. Sure some calls where not going their way, but it was not the sole cause for them losing 828505[/snapback] I can't argue with that. Just found it interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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