BillWalton

Give me Trevor Pryce over Justin Smith/Rod Coleman/any other DLineman out there.

Sports Illustrated just broke down the Cover 2 defense in their most recent issue. Brian Urlacher himself is quoted as saying that the Bears "play the Tampa Two no more than 35% to 40% of the time." Maybe a 350 pound Gilbert Brown-type DT won't work in the Cover 2. But a John Henderson-type certainly can play on this team when over 60% of the time one of the defenses that runs it the most in the league isn't even running a Cover 2!

JP is 6'2 217. The prototypical size for a QB is 6'4-6'6, and heavier than 217.

We would have signed Pickett OR Tripplett, not both.

Might I add what is most concerning about this issue is that we spent a 1st, 3rd, and 4th round draft pick on the secondary and going into next year it still looks like a potential weakness for the team. I've hoped that the Bills might win the Super Bowl before I die. At 22, I'm just hoping they make the playoffs before I'm gone.

Right, McGee has played so well he got benched one game. Clements waited until Week 9 until you could tell him apart from any other average CB in the league. Thomas has dropped two sure interceptions that I can remember off the top of my head. Greer has been adequate mostly because he's had the least playing time out of all of them. Like who?

As if seeing him get plowed over by Ahman Green last week wasn't enough to convince me that he wasn't worth a top 10 pick....

Bottom line: quarterbacks taken in the first round should have the talent to win games for their teams.

The only way that could happen is if they saw a newspaper headline saying: "Colts trade Manning to Bills for Losman in youth movement"

I'm still waiting to see JP's much-documented "rocket arm." I didn't see it yesterday on the long passes to Lee (yes, on the TD he couldn't step into it, but on the one earlier JP criminally underthrew Lee) or on the passes that he was skipping all over the field to the WR's feet.

Regardless of anyone's opinion on who should be our starting RB, the Green Bay game proved one fact: Runningback is the easiest position in the NFL to replace. That's why when his contract is up Willis should just be sent on his way to resign elsewhere. And yes, this has been my stance long before yesterday.

Didn't you read a previous poster in this thread that said Gregg Williams was exactly the type of "in-your-face" intense coach that Jauron isn't, and he bombed in Buffalo. There are successes and failures with both calm and intense coaching styles, neither is the right way.

Tony Dungy is about as unanimated as it gets on the sidelines and he's won in Tampa and in Indy. Same goes with Belichick. On the flip side, tom Coughlin might be the most "heated" coach and I've heard a number of times that he's one of the worst coaches in the league.

Personally I want to know why we drafted a safety as a Top 10 pick when we were planning on running a two deep defense. I heard all of this talk of Whitner being versatile enough to play up at the line, blitz, or even cover WRs man-to-man. I haven't seen anything out of him, or how we use him, to suggest that we couldn't have the same production from a 3rd round draft pick.

Picking a stud center at the very end of the 1st round makes alot of sense actually when the biggest weakness on your team for the past decade has been the offensive line.

Or how about if we shelled out top dollar for Steve Hutchinson, moved down and drafted Mangold and then took Marcus McNeill with our next pick. The oline would look something like: Peters - Hutchinson - Mangold - Villarial/Gandy - McNeill But thank God we shored up our secondary first...

Well we managed to bring in guys like Fletcher, Spikes, Sam Adams, Troy Vincent, and Lawyer Milloy. That got us exactly nowhere.

And then he followed it up brilliantly by operating the worst 2-minute drill (if you can call it that) in NFL history.

I think Aaron Schobel made Matt Light look like Gandy against the Bears last Sunday... Brady got as beat up in the 1st half against us as JP ever has in a half of football.

I didn't even mention the Arizona game. I said that the Bears are averaging 14 more points and 70 more yards per game this year with only 1 new starter on the entire team (The FS)! The only other difference is Grossman at QB instead of Orton. The fact that he is worth that much to the offense is what he has proved.

First of all, it's not so much the turnovers but how brutal they are. Or making just plain boneheaded plays. Secondly, Chicago had virtually the same offense and defense last year. The offense had Mushin, Berrian, Jones, Benson and Desmond Clark last year too. Furthermore, their entire offensive line is the same, and they have the same head coach. The main difference has been at quarterback. Last year with Orton at QB they averaged 16 points and 256 yards per game. This year with Grossman at QB they are averaging 30 points and 325 yards per game. Nice try though....

Plain and simple, Bills fans have waited for a quarterback to replace Jim Kelly since 1996. People are sick and tired of being told "just wait another year" or "give him more time" whether it's unfair to JP or not. It just compounds the problem when Bills fans see so many other young QBs that look great and have success (e.g., Eli, Big Ben, Rivers, Brady, Brees, Palmer, Leftwich).

McNair is a former league MVP who quarterbacked a team to the Super Bowl! Grossman is still quarterbacking the highest scoring offense in the league and even has fewer career starts than JP (13 to 15)! JP has accomplished...exactly what?

Waiting for someone to respond to this comment....

The point is that QBs drafted in the 1st round are supposed to at least show signs of continued development in their first few seasons. JP is making mistakes that would get QBs benched even down at the high school level (e.g., taking a 15 yard sack at the end of the 1st half against the Lions. And maybe even more disturbing, trying to throw a pass after being taken down to his knee on that play....which caused him to fumble, but luckily was bailed out by already being called down). Has he ever once shown some signs of good game-clock management or field awareness? I'd love it if you could point out even one, because he looks completely lost on the field half the time.