John from Riverside Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 We dont want "fat run stopping guys" in our supposid Tampa 2 defense.... But the idea of trading for McFarland was real and had Tampa not been asking for so much we probably would have grabbed him..... SOOOOOO......ligher quicker DT's but interest in McFarland? Inconsistant..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 We dont want "fat run stopping guys" in our supposid Tampa 2 defense.... But the idea of trading for McFarland was real and had Tampa not been asking for so much we probably would have grabbed him..... SOOOOOO......ligher quicker DT's but interest in McFarland? Inconsistant..... 808968[/snapback] TB's defensive coordinator, Marty Kiffin, is a gem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMIEBUF12 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 and on top of that tony dungy who is supposed to be the "guru" of tampa cover two is the coach who just traded for booger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluv Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 We dont want "fat run stopping guys" in our supposid Tampa 2 defense.... But the idea of trading for McFarland was real and had Tampa not been asking for so much we probably would have grabbed him..... SOOOOOO......ligher quicker DT's but interest in McFarland? Inconsistant..... 808968[/snapback] Well actually he is only 300 lbs and is more of a pass rusher in the Warren Sapp mold whom he replaced but he would be the biggest DT on the Colts roster. For the money, 2nd rnd draft pick and his production the past 3 seasons I wouldn't add him to the Bills roster. But tell you the truth I wish to the minimum had kept Adams or added a Grady Jackson in the offseason. for since we rotate DT' anyway, why not keep a fat body in their on running downs or goaline; they can't be worse than Anderson! Ideally I wish we still had Phat Pat but that is another topic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 We dont want "fat run stopping guys" in our supposid Tampa 2 defense.... But the idea of trading for McFarland was real and had Tampa not been asking for so much we probably would have grabbed him..... SOOOOOO......ligher quicker DT's but interest in McFarland? Inconsistant..... 808968[/snapback] Never mind the little fact that booger played for the buccs, you know, the buccs from tampa who revolutionized the Tampa-2 defense, that we currently employ? Booger is listed at 300 btw. He's probably a bit bigger, but hes still a prototypical good cover-2/tampa-2 DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Well actually he is only 300 lbs and is more of a pass rusher in the Warren Sapp mold whom he replaced but he would be the biggest DT on the Colts roster. For the money, 2nd rnd draft pick and his production the past 3 seasons I wouldn't add him to the Bills roster. But tell you the truth I wish to the minimum had kept Adams or added a Grady Jackson in the offseason. for since we rotate DT' anyway, why not keep a fat body in their on running downs or goaline; they can't be worse than Anderson! Ideally I wish we still had Phat Pat but that is another topic... 808982[/snapback] Only 300 pounds..LOL I'm sure the DT's and OL will be addressed in the offseason...well...they better be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 We dont want "fat run stopping guys" in our supposid Tampa 2 defense.... But the idea of trading for McFarland was real and had Tampa not been asking for so much we probably would have grabbed him..... SOOOOOO......ligher quicker DT's but interest in McFarland? Inconsistant..... 808968[/snapback] Not inconsistent. Booger fits the mold we're looking for. Not sad we didn't get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 But tell you the truth I wish to the minimum had kept Adams 808982[/snapback] The media here in Cincy have finally stopped their love fest about Sam being a run stopper. His quick move off the snap dried up in their 2 defeats... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 We dont want "fat run stopping guys" in our supposid Tampa 2 defense.... But the idea of trading for McFarland was real and had Tampa not been asking for so much we probably would have grabbed him..... SOOOOOO......ligher quicker DT's but interest in McFarland? Inconsistant..... 808968[/snapback] When Dick was HC of Chicago, and their D was one of the best in the league, he had Keith Traylor and Ted Washington as his tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I'm just curious about it because Tampa didn't receive to much in return for the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stussy109 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Well actually he is only 300 lbs and is more of a pass rusher in the Warren Sapp mold whom he replaced but he would be the biggest DT on the Colts roster. For the money, 2nd rnd draft pick and his production the past 3 seasons I wouldn't add him to the Bills roster. But tell you the truth I wish to the minimum had kept Adams or added a Grady Jackson in the offseason. for since we rotate DT' anyway, why not keep a fat body in their on running downs or goaline; they can't be worse than Anderson! Ideally I wish we still had Phat Pat but that is another topic... 808982[/snapback] What production have we gotten out of 2nd rd picks anyways? We usually trade them off. We currently have Kelsay, Parrish, Reed and traded off Henry. SO compare McFarland to those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I'm just curious about it because Tampa didn't receive to much in return for the trade. 809015[/snapback] Other than off-loading a $$$$$ contract for a 30+ year-old DT who will only get worse with age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluv Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 The media here in Cincy have finally stopped their love fest about Sam being a run stopper. His quick move off the snap dried up in their 2 defeats... 808994[/snapback] Yeah but if he was in a rotation such as the obe we used versus him being in 95% of the snaps he'd to the very minimal be serviceable, especially when motivated to play hard to get more snaps. He would be btter than Anderson anyday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluv Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 What production have we gotten out of 2nd rd picks anyways? We usually trade them off. We currently have Kelsay, Parrish, Reed and traded off Henry. SO compare McFarland to those guys. 809028[/snapback] But his salary was alittle too high for his production and if he doesn't restructure then you will have an overpaid player. Or if he is cut then you're out of a player and a pick. I'll pass on him for he is not the true run plugger that we need and besides we are rebuilding this year and not in contention; let's just wait until the draft or free agency to get possibly a better and/or cheaper option at DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I'm just curious about it because Tampa didn't receive to much in return for the trade. 809015[/snapback] No? The Colts only got a 2nd and a 5th for trading away Marshall Faulk in his prime. I think that because the Bills give so many away and select duds as of late, many Bills Fans don't understand how vital draft picks are in terms of building a good football team. Now, couple in the fact that Ralph has less money to sign UFAs than a huge majority of the NFL owners, and the draft is even more important. Levy has already shown a tendency to hand over picks to other football teams, and even refuse much needed extra picks when offered them via trade. This time he did the right thing imo. I would rather have the 2nd round pick (which will probably be an early one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I think that because the Bills give so many away and select duds as of late, many Bills Fans don't understand how vital draft picks are in terms of building a good football team. ... Levy has already shown a tendency to hand over picks to other football teams, and even refuse much needed extra picks when offered them via trade. 809201[/snapback] Please. Both these lines are so over the top they had me reaching for my ignore button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 We dont want "fat run stopping guys" in our supposid Tampa 2 defense.... But the idea of trading for McFarland was real and had Tampa not been asking for so much we probably would have grabbed him..... SOOOOOO......ligher quicker DT's but interest in McFarland? Inconsistant..... 808968[/snapback] They read KzooMike's posts Kidding aside it probably has more to do with McFarland coming from the Cover 2. I don't expect us to change the approach much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Hmmmm...I've got to admit if I were to line up against a guy they called booger, I'd be a little nervous and distracted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Please. Both these lines are so over the top they had me reaching for my ignore button. 809217[/snapback] OK, I take it back. Everything has been looking great in terms of our recent drafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 OK, I take it back. Everything has been looking great in terms of our recent drafts. 809232[/snapback] Glad I convinced you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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