buffaloboyinATL Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 He got absolutely obliterated on the sideline when he was running down to try and cover a punt. Miami's return man just crushed him as he was stepping out of bounds. It was kind of a cheap shot but they say you always have to be ready. He is spending time in the hot tub today I'm guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Ouch! No worries. My boy is TOUGH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 Ouch! No worries. My boy is TOUGH! 778686[/snapback] He got back up so you must be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 That hit was so good I never noticed Moorman sticking the ball on the one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 19, 2006 Author Share Posted September 19, 2006 That hit was so good I never noticed Moorman sticking the ball on the one. 778698[/snapback] That's why I said it was a cheap shot. Leonhard wasn't even near the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 1) It wasn't a cheap shot. Ungentlemanly, yes; Welker should have just steered JL out of bounds to take him out of the play. 2) It sounded much worse than it really was. That was the sound effect of plastic hitting plastic about 2 feet from the mics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.EvansHands Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 LOL no way... I was at the game in the upper corner of the side the play was on.... WOW did Jim get smoked. That crunch was heard all the way up in my cheap seats. One dolphin fan leaned over and yelled to me "your boy got crushed bit@h" to which I replied: Your team is on the one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackur Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 LOL no way... I was at the game in the upper corner of the side the play was on.... WOW did Jim get smoked. That crunch was heard all the way up in my cheap seats. One dolphin fan leaned over and yelled to me "your boy got crushed bit@h" to which I replied: Your team is on the one. 778744[/snapback] lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 There's no way that was a cheap shot, the punt returner is allowed to block anyone to keep them from downing the ball, and with Welker knowing the ball was going to bounce near the goal line and leonhard right there why would he not try and keep him from downing it? Good hit. Leonhard needs to wake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generaLee83 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 That hit was so good I never noticed Moorman sticking the ball on the one. 778698[/snapback] That was great, all the Miami fans and even the announcers were proclaiming how great a hit it was, etc etc. Meanwhile.................... Moorman just pinned the ball on your fu_king goal line you retards, HA!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Jimmy just won honors for #3 in ESPN's "Jacked up" this week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 19, 2006 Author Share Posted September 19, 2006 Jimmy just won honors for #3 in ESPN's "Jacked up" this week! 778790[/snapback] I saw that. Dubious honor, but an honor none the less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 and while dierdork was blathering about the hit, I was screaming at the television..."IT'S AT THE ONE, DIERDORK...WHAT A PUNT!" Moorman killed 'em yesterday. Jimmy L was simply a scrifice to the god(s) of special teams. It happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I saw the ball go out at the one and let out an exclamation, which woke my wife (she's got a cold). So she watches the replay, showing Leonhard get hit and says "why'd you get excited about that?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers_is_back Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 LOL no way... I was at the game in the upper corner of the side the play was on.... WOW did Jim get smoked. That crunch was heard all the way up in my cheap seats. One dolphin fan leaned over and yelled to me "your boy got crushed bit@h" to which I replied: Your team is on the one. 778744[/snapback] There's no way that was a cheap shot, the punt returner is allowed to block anyone to keep them from downing the ball, and with Welker knowing the ball was going to bounce near the goal line and leonhard right there why would he not try and keep him from downing it? Good hit. Leonhard needs to wake up. 778777[/snapback] 1st of all ... that first quote is priceless. Great comeback bro! 2nd of all ... I would NOT think that it was a cheap shot if Leonhard was actually going towards the ball, but he was not. He was about 4 inches from being out of bounds and Welker railed him. Thats kind of cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 1st of all ... that first quote is priceless. Great comeback bro! 2nd of all ... I would NOT think that it was a cheap shot if Leonhard was actually going towards the ball, but he was not. He was about 4 inches from being out of bounds and Welker railed him. Thats kind of cheap. 778818[/snapback] He's fair game there. Good hit, Leonhard got up, and MOORMAN DROPPED IT IN AT THE ONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers_is_back Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 He's fair game there. Good hit, Leonhard got up, and MOORMAN DROPPED IT IN AT THE ONE! 778820[/snapback] Of course he is fair game. If he is in bounds then he is fair game. But he was seriously less than a foot from being out of bounds and a good 5-10 yards away from the ball. It was cheap but within the legal rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Of course he is fair game. If he is in bounds then he is fair game. But he was seriously less than a foot from being out of bounds and a good 5-10 yards away from the ball. It was cheap but within the legal rules. 778828[/snapback] I'm not looking for a fight, really, but I looked in the dictionary for the definition of "cheap" and it said: knocking the sauce out of someone who isn't fair game. How can it be cheap if he was fair game? if the ball bounces at the one, Leonard dives into the end zone and knocks it back in and it's downed at the one, Welcher (sp?) gets booed by the Miami faithful. i'm sure he heard them booing Culpepper, and figured "Damn, they'd booing the guy maing $8 mill a year, they'll tear me up". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 There's no way that was a cheap shot, the punt returner is allowed to block anyone to keep them from downing the ball, as long as he doesn't flash a fair catch signal. If he puts a hand up he's not allowed to touch anybody from that point on, but if he doesn't signal he's a live blocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 as long as he doesn't flash a fair catch signal. If he puts a hand up he's not allowed to touch anybody from that point on, but if he doesn't signal he's a live blocker. 778844[/snapback] Do you know if Welker gave the fair catch signal? I wasnt paying attention, but I would think that if he did and proceeded with the hit he would have gotten a penalty, but I didnt see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers_is_back Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I'm not looking for a fight, really, but I looked in the dictionary for the definition of "cheap" and it said: knocking the sauce out of someone who isn't fair game. How can it be cheap if he was fair game? if the ball bounces at the one, Leonard dives into the end zone and knocks it back in and it's downed at the one, Welcher (sp?) gets booed by the Miami faithful. i'm sure he heard them booing Culpepper, and figured "Damn, they'd booing the guy maing $8 mill a year, they'll tear me up". 778836[/snapback] Correct me if Im wrong, but didnt Leonhard get nailed at about the 8 yard line at about the same time the ball was hitting the ground. So you think that there was a chance Leonhard was going to dive 8 yards and touch the ball at the exact same time??????? He was one foot from in bounds. It was LEGAL but it was CHEAP. that simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Do you know if Welker gave the fair catch signal? I wasnt paying attention, but I would think that if he did and proceeded with the hit he would have gotten a penalty, but I didnt see it. 778853[/snapback] He didn't signal for a fair catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Do you know if Welker gave the fair catch signal? I wasnt paying attention, but I would think that if he did and proceeded with the hit he would have gotten a penalty, but I didnt see it. 778853[/snapback] No, he kept his hand down which kept him in the play; they'd have definitely nailed him if he even hinted at a wave. My guess is that Leonhard knew it but gave himself up anyways in an effort to make a play for field position. I get the sense that the guy doesn't mind being drilled and may actually kind of like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 19, 2006 Author Share Posted September 19, 2006 It was LEGAL but it was CHEAP. that simple 778858[/snapback] Agreed. He did not have to hit him, the play was over. Not a penalty but not neccesary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Correct me if Im wrong, but didnt Leonhard get nailed at about the 8 yard line at about the same time the ball was hitting the ground. So you think that there was a chance Leonhard was going to dive 8 yards and touch the ball at the exact same time??????? He was one foot from in bounds. It was LEGAL but it was CHEAP. that simple 778858[/snapback] I think the play was going at full speed, I think the return man doesn't know definitively where the ball is going to land, or what the cover man is going to do, and he hits him because that's what he's supposed to do. My recollection was that Leonard was around the 5, but it could have been the 8. Doesn't change anything for me. And frankly, I hate the fins as much as anyone on this board, or anyone in the city of Buffalo, etc. In 1992, I was down in the Miami area on business after the hurricane. I was riding with some people from work and we were within a few miles of Joe Robbie stadium. I mentioned I wanted to swing by, we did, I got out of the car, went over, and spit on the stadium wall. So, it pains me to say it, but I'd bet you the only people who think it was a cheap shot are a select few bills fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 In 1992, I was down in the Miami area on business after the hurricane. I was riding with some people from work and we were within a few miles of Joe Robbie stadium. I mentioned I wanted to swing by, we did, I got out of the car, went over, and spit on the stadium wall. Props to timmo..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Props to timmo..... 778873[/snapback] Of course Simon, it's explainable. I was just a kid, my 32nd birthday was still a few months off. I kid you not, I'm a Bills fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I mentioned I wanted to swing by, we did, I got out of the car, went over, and spit on the stadium wall. 778869[/snapback] Whoa!!!!! Hey, now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Of course Simon, it's explainable. I was just a kid, my 32nd birthday was still a few months off. I kid you not, I'm a Bills fan. 778877[/snapback] Hey you don't gotta explain nothing to me. I'm just jealous I didn't get to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Correct me if Im wrong, but didnt Leonhard get nailed at about the 8 yard line at about the same time the ball was hitting the ground. So you think that there was a chance Leonhard was going to dive 8 yards and touch the ball at the exact same time??????? He was one foot from in bounds. It was LEGAL but it was CHEAP. that simple 778858[/snapback] yeah but daquixers, if he was 8 yards away he could still get to the ball in under a second figuring he was close to top speed and that he has to run sub 4.8 40. So, Welker was in his rights to label leohard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.EvansHands Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 1st of all ... that first quote is priceless. Great comeback bro! 2nd of all ... I would NOT think that it was a cheap shot if Leonhard was actually going towards the ball, but he was not. He was about 4 inches from being out of bounds and Welker railed him. Thats kind of cheap. 778818[/snapback] Yeah, I was not impressed with the general football intelligence of the Fin fans and their stupid chants. My god if I had to hear them get excited by EVERY first down they got. It was like they had never gotten one... "its ANOTHER miami dolphins...FIRST down" Yay. Egads man. Finally as the Fin fans realized they had nothing to cheer about, the 5 bills fans near me and I began taking over the chant for EVERY bills first down.. "ITs another BUFFALO FIRST DOWN" ... wow that made them pissed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Hey you don't gotta explain nothing to me.I'm just jealous I didn't get to do it. 778884[/snapback] it was delightful, a word not often assocaited with loogey-hawking. if it helps, it was a whopper, and you can take credit for half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 and while dierdork was blathering about the hit, I was screaming at the television..."IT'S AT THE ONE, DIERDORK...WHAT A PUNT!" That's funny - I am on vacation at a lake house and (long story) we were watching the game on a fuzzy 10 inch TV down on the dock and it was difficult to see everything that was going on. On that punt Dan is blathering on for 5 minutes about Welker and I kept saying "Did it go into the end zone?" - I don't think they even mentioned that the punt went out at the one. BTW - getting pretty sick now of the media's love of Welker - they were orgasming all over him in week 1 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers_is_back Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Ok so I just watched the play again on DirecTV's replay (shows the entire game in 30 minutes) and Leonhard was on the 10 yard line when he got hit and it looks as if he had about half a foot out of bounds and his entire body was heading out of bounds. I was unsure before but now I am sure that it was a cheap shot. I wish I knew how to screen capture my TV. So Leonhard would have had to dive 9 feet and touch the ball after going OUT of bounds which is directly where he was heading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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