Ramius Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2330942 Why you sign Warner before McCown is beyond me. The cards have won 10 games the past 2 years, and mccown has started in 8 of those 10 wins. Warner is old, concussion and fumble prone, and close to being washed up. But i guess decisions like this are why they are the cardinals. Anyway, since McCown will want to start, he'll likely be gone from arizona. what are the thoughts on tossing him into the Bills QB mix? (i doubt it will happen, someone will take a chance on him and pay him decent bucks, because he's shown promise and is still young) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2330942 Why you sign Warner before McCown is beyond me. The cards have won 10 games the past 2 years, and mccown has started in 8 of those 10 wins. Warner is old, concussion and fumble prone, and close to being washed up. But i guess decisions like this are why they are the cardinals. Anyway, since McCown will want to start, he'll likely be gone from arizona. what are the thoughts on tossing him into the Bills QB mix? (i doubt it will happen, someone will take a chance on him and pay him decent bucks, because he's shown promise and is still young) 604004[/snapback] maybe to teach him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Wow, that has to be the stupidest franchise ever. The Giants would not put up with Warner for more than a year, yet the Cards are handing this guy the keys to the city. I don't pity cards fans at all. There is no way the fans of Buffalo would let a QB like Warner get paid that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I'll pass... I remember when he came here to play against us a couple of years back. He was totally ineffective and commented after the game that he had a whole new respect fro what Jim Kelly was able to accomplish in the Arctic conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I don't pity cards fans at all. There is no way the fans of Buffalo would let a QB like Warner get paid that much. 604012[/snapback] We did not want Rob Johnson to get 5 years 25 million but the Bills still gave him that $ though correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 All it really says is that Warner will make $7milliion this year without incentives. How big was the signing bonus? This could really be nothing more than a 1 yr deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 He was coming on REALLY strong at the tail end of the season. He was throwing for 300+ almost every week. I didn't see Holcomb or Losman doing that at ALL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 We did not want Rob Johnson to get 5 years 25 million but the Bills still gave him that $ though correct? 604076[/snapback] You win today's You Dog! Award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I didn't see Holcomb or Losman doing that at ALL. 604082[/snapback] Eagerly awaiting Holcumbs_Arm's opinion now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I just want to take a moment and say how proud I am that you used the proper use of the word re-sign. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I just want to take a moment and say how proud I am that you used the proper use of the word re-sign. Thank you. 604100[/snapback] Does this post indicate a return to the "kinder, gentler" days of TSW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Eagerly awaiting Holcumbs_Arm's opinion now.... 604086[/snapback] Fair enough. Holcomb did throw for over 300 yards against the Bengals. And the Bills don't have the Cards' talent at WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 He was coming on REALLY strong at the tail end of the season. He was throwing for 300+ almost every week. I didn't see Holcomb or Losman doing that at ALL. 604082[/snapback] From Darftsharks: This means Warner is off the market (sorry Detroit) and Josh McCown will be leaving in free agency. Warner was extremely productive in spurts last year, actually posting top-5 fantasy numbers over a 6-game stretch before he sprained his MCL in December. He developed a perfect rapport with Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin (who became the most dangerous WR duo in pro football) and topped 300 yards 5 times in only 8 full starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Fair enough. Holcomb did throw for over 300 yards against the Bengals. And the Bills don't have the Cards' talent at WR. 604150[/snapback] The Cards have very good wrs and potentially great ones, but you're selling Moulds and Evans short. Boldin is very similar too Moulds but he's only done it for 2 years. And while Fitzgerald could be a superstar, Evans outplayed him as a rookie and has a bright future as well. Plus, the Bills are a run first type team where as the Cards have no running game. Thus, they are forced to throw and put up high receivng numbers. That being said, I think McCown is getting screwed and I think someone will get a very good (and fairly cheap) QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Fair enough. Holcomb did throw for over 300 yards against the Bengals. And the Bills don't have the Cards' talent at WR. 604150[/snapback] Bills and fellow bum AZ ended up with identical 5 -11 records. Throw no stones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Bills and fellow bum AZ ended up with identical 5 -11 records. Throw no stones... 604199[/snapback] Point taken. Actually, considering Kurt Warner threw for 300 yards five times in just eight starts, behind Arizona's trash OL, I have to give the guy credit. I mean, with numbers like those, he sounds a little like the real Kurt Warner. That's a scary thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Point taken. Actually, considering Kurt Warner threw for 300 yards five times in just eight starts, behind Arizona's trash OL, I have to give the guy credit. I mean, with numbers like those, he sounds a little like the real Kurt Warner. That's a scary thought. 604264[/snapback] With today's "Hey ref, he gave me a dirty look and touched me with a pinky finger!!!" rules, a 300 yd. qb game isn't what it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 With today's "Hey ref, he gave me a dirty look and touched me with a pinky finger!!!" rules, a 300 yd. qb game isn't what it used to be. Oh, what I'd give for a 300 yard game from JPL or KH... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 The Cards have very good wrs and potentially great ones, but you're selling Moulds and Evans short. Boldin is very similar too Moulds but he's only done it for 2 years. And while Fitzgerald could be a superstar, Evans outplayed him as a rookie and has a bright future as well. Plus, the Bills are a run first type team where as the Cards have no running game. Thus, they are forced to throw and put up high receivng numbers. That being said, I think McCown is getting screwed and I think someone will get a very good (and fairly cheap) QB. 604167[/snapback] Moulds and Evans are a good tandem, but I am afraid to say, they are not in the Boldin/Fitzgerald neighborhood just yet. True Evans had a better rookie season than Fitzgerald, but Fitzgerald, if I recall, was injured part of his rookie season, and was second fiddle to the phenom that was Boldin. This year they both put up top receiver numbers, nearly every week, no matter what crappy QB was throwing them the ball...if you are using Fitzgerald's rookie season to offset his second year success, you have to use Evans second year stats (despite the circumstances) to offset his rookie stats.... If the Cards offered us Fitzgerald and Boldin for Moulds and Evans, I would take that deal in a split second... All said, I think the Cards are foolish to give up on McCown so quick (he has been very productive), particularly in favor of Warner. McCown would be at least a great back-up for someone (maybe the Bills?), and would likely be an upgrade for about half the teams in the NFL right now (maybe the Bills?), as a starter. From what I have heard, it is more a case of McCown being in Denny Greenes dog-house, than for his production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfladave Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 With today's "Hey ref, he gave me a dirty look and touched me with a pinky finger!!!" rules, a 300 yd. qb game isn't what it used to be. 604281[/snapback] As in, a 300 yard game isn't what it used to be in Buffalo on any given Sunday by the home team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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