Chilly Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Vince Young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCBongo Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 JP is going to be fine. He showed signs of promise during the season and when he was benched, he did not make any excuses. He took it like a man - and the shows character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I can see now when his career comes to an end in Buffalo. Right, wrong or indifferent I just don't see JP being able to be patient and experienced enough to overcome the turbulence that has endured in the couple of years that he has been there. So which reason do you think will undermine him and his career in Buffalo the most? a) The coaching/administration changes. b) The pathetic O-Line. c) The divided team atmosphere. d) The indecision of making a committment to him. e) His teammates' abilities and efforts. f) His ability to play in the NFL this early in his career. Bottom line, I don't see this guy having the intangibles to overcome this kind of start to his career. If you're relying on him to be THE MAN in the near future, or at all, then you better be prepared for some heartache. 591661[/snapback] If his Bills career ends before he finds success here, it will be in no small part due to idiot fans and the knee-jerk reactions they tend to provoke. And yes, you should be reading something into that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 They should like cut him now and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfladave Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 They should like cut him now and stuff. 591756[/snapback] For sure, that would be like totally radical ya know. This topic makes as much sense to me as the Janikowski or Lindell one does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 For sure, that would be like totally radical ya know. This topic makes as much sense to me as the Janikowski or Lindell one does. 591758[/snapback] AD was right. The offseason SUCKS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 If I have ANYTHING with the rise or fall of Losman or any other professional athlete, then I want to be paid accordingly. I'd much rather be compensated handsomely then to trade barbs with the "elite" posters on this message board. I'll respect the opinions on this board but I just don't believe in chastising people for having them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 If I have ANYTHING with the rise or fall of Losman or any other professional athlete, then I want to be paid accordingly. I'd much rather be compensated handsomely then to trade barbs with the "elite" posters on this message board. I'll respect the opinions on this board but I just don't believe in chastising people for having them. 591767[/snapback] How many times do we have to hear, then, that this kid isn't going to make it? He's either going to prove it on the field or he isn't. Period. Let's at least give him that chance. Hell, let's give him at least one whole season. The people forecasting his doom, the people advocating trading for Damon freaking Huard for crying out loud, all of this stuff is preposterous. If my reaction was harsh, it's just that it's getting tough to even bother to read this stuff anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 I appreciate your stance on redundant posts but I promise you that this was not my intention. I go in and out on following this board. I have been active for just the last couple of weeks because of all the current controversies. The more developements I see the more ramifications I realize. The point is with no ill will intended for Losman is with all that he has endured in such a short, young career is that the odds are starting to stack up heavily against him. With all the disappointments that this organization and fanbase has been thru in the last few years this aspect should be considered. This, in my opinion, is not a longshot scenario. If people are tired and bored with this subject matter, then this post will just fade away. If there is interest in this subject, then I would like to hear if it's a pro or con opinion. I meant no offense to anybody. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I can see now when his career comes to an end in Buffalo. Right, wrong or indifferent I just don't see JP being able to be patient and experienced enough to overcome the turbulence that has endured in the couple of years that he has been there. So which reason do you think will undermine him and his career in Buffalo the most? a) The coaching/administration changes. b) The pathetic O-Line. c) The divided team atmosphere. d) The indecision of making a committment to him. e) His teammates' abilities and efforts. f) His ability to play in the NFL this early in his career. Bottom line, I don't see this guy having the intangibles to overcome this kind of start to his career. If you're relying on him to be THE MAN in the near future, or at all, then you better be prepared for some heartache. 591661[/snapback] WHY do YOU want him to FAIL ????? that goes for all of you JP bashers a little positive thought could help .I I want him to be the best and help the bills win it all . hartache , so payton manning is no good . you people are sick . why be a bills fan ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfladave Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I'd much rather be compensated handsomely then to trade barbs with the "elite" posters on this message board. I'll respect the opinions on this board but I just don't believe in chastising people for having them. 591767[/snapback] I'm sorry but when you post, "Which reason do you think JP will attribute his, failure for not succeeding in Buffalo?", you are begging to be ridiculed and barbed. Your post implies that JP will blame someone other than himself for his inevitable downfall. This is outrageous 2 reasons: 1. JP has never blamed anyone except himself for any of his short comings. 2. Your statement implies/assumes that no matter what JPs failure is written in stone. Now get off your high horse and deal with criticism of your post by making valid and compelling arguments. Just don't expect people not to call you on a post title like yours. BTW I understand your logic when you mention that if people are sick of a topic they would simply stop reading, replying and ganging up against those who insist on crusading. However we live in the real world and some people just can't let go of a crusade, regardless of which side they are on, especially in the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMIEBUF12 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 No he is going to be a 3rd year player. 591739[/snapback] YES TECHNICALLY HE WILL BE A 3RD YEAR PLAYER................but he had a broken leg his 1st year and in his 2nd season he split his starts with kelly holcomb,so basically he is still a kid thats what i meant by rookie.not his years on the team more his actual football exp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finknottle Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 YES TECHNICALLY HE WILL BE A 3RD YEAR PLAYER................but he had a broken leg his 1st year and in his 2nd season he split his starts with kelly holcomb,so basically he is still a kid thats what i meant by rookie.not his years on the team more his actual football exp 591817[/snapback] Like Frank Reich. He was a good rookie for a lot of years here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 It could be any number of things: Terrorists George Bush Global Warming FEMA The Mayor of Buffalo Crab People {Taste like crab, talk like people} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 It's true that JP hasn't been a crybaby so far but it is still very early in his career. If he doesn't succeed in Buffalo then there will be a reason for it, not blame. I did offer a multiple choice. Choice f was making him accountable. There is alot going AGAINST him so far, if you, me or anybody else likes it or not. Can you or anybody else remember any young QB going thru so much in such a young, short career and rebounding successfully for their original team? I'm curious, ANYBODY? I'm not rooting against him, I'm a BIG Bills' fan, I just don't choose to look thru rose colored glasses. When I post I'm looking for opinions, either for or against, that's all. The personal attacks are boorish. If that makes me on a high horse then giddy-up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I appreciate your stance on redundant posts but I promise you that this was not my intention. I go in and out on following this board. I have been active for just the last couple of weeks because of all the current controversies. The more developements I see the more ramifications I realize. The point is with no ill will intended for Losman is with all that he has endured in such a short, young career is that the odds are starting to stack up heavily against him. With all the disappointments that this organization and fanbase has been thru in the last few years this aspect should be considered. This, in my opinion, is not a longshot scenario. If people are tired and bored with this subject matter, then this post will just fade away. If there is interest in this subject, then I would like to hear if it's a pro or con opinion. I meant no offense to anybody. Thanks. 591782[/snapback] That's reasonable. I think you'll be surprised, but you're entitled to your opinion. Just hoping you don't go all "Holcomb's Arm" on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfladave Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Can you or anybody else remember any young QB going thru so much in such a young, short career and rebounding successfully for their original team? I'm curious, ANYBODY? I'm not rooting against him, I'm a BIG Bills' fan, I just don't choose to look thru rose colored glasses. When I post I'm looking for opinions, either for or against, that's all. The personal attacks are boorish. If that makes me on a high horse then giddy-up! 591826[/snapback] I did a quick search of the QB ratings of 12 current QBs in the first year that they played in at least 4 games: JP 64.9 Eli 55.4 Bledsoe 65 McNabb 60.1 Holcomb 44.3 Brad Johnson 68.5 Brees 76.9 Leftowich 73 Plummer 73.1 Hasselbeck 70.9 Peyton 71.2 Palmer 77.3 This tells me that not all QBs start out like Marino or Roethlisberger. They all had growing pains that only went away with real game experience. Does this mean that I think JP is going to be good much less great? HELL NO! I would never claim that, just like I would never claim he is definitely going to be a bust. I will hold back from he must go until I do see him get to play more than 8 games however, especially since he did improve so much over the last 4 games compared to the first 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Whatever its more interesting than the daily let's assign JP to NFL europe thread. 591691[/snapback] When did anyone post that we should sign him to NFL Europe? I think it might be a way to get him a little more game time and experience before going into next season. A little OT but - What are the requirements for going to NFL Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 this whole topic is tired. he's started 8 games for a pathetic coach behind a more pathetic o-line. the super bowl hasn't even been played yet for christ sakes. when do pitchers and catchers report? 591673[/snapback] Agreed. Too much time on people's hands, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 More insightful questions: How often does JP beat up his girlfriend? Is JP a wimp or a wuss? Does JP deserve to be shot or stabbed? Is JP a pedophile or simply like boys? Will he take his failure like a man or commit suicide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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