MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 The Bills and Jets are the only teams without a DC. Every other team has a DC, or DC's (in the case of Houston), even the head coach-less Raiders. Given the fact that the Jets are a mess cap-wise, meaning they'll have to get rid of a good player ot two on defense; that Mangini is younger than Bates, studied under the master Bill Belichick and thus will probably want more say on running the defense (especially since he's a rookie HC); and that with it being down to just 2 teams, a bidding war likely won't occur, I like the Bills' chances of getting him. I really hope it happens and I'd be happy with the coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Chief Navy Pride Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 I concur. GIT R DONE MARV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sen. John Blutarsky Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 I'm not holding my breath... Maybe we'll bring in Georgia Frontiere...we have every other old Ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 I'm not holding my breath... Maybe we'll bring in Georgia Frontiere...we have every other old Ram 583945[/snapback] Put her at TE - she's faster than Mark Campbell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 I'm not holding my breath... I'm not either. If this past week has taught me anything, it's that whatever seems to have a good chance of happening STILL won't, just because we're Bills fans. But again, I think the odds favor the Bills. Come on Ralph, Marv, and Dick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Put her at TE - she's faster than Mark Campbell. 583964[/snapback] Probably more durable too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 At her age, I don't know how much of a "Tight End" she'd be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 At her age, I don't know how much of a "Tight End" she'd be. 583968[/snapback] Rimshot please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typical TBD Guy Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Bates possibly as our DC?! That'll sedate the Sherman lovers for at least a day or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 Bates possibly as our DC?! That'll sedate the Sherman lovers for at least a day or two. If anything should sedate the Sherman lovers, it's that he wanted part ownership and/or GM duties in Buffalo. No thanks. As a fomer Sherman lover, once I found out about that, I was glad it manifested itself earlier rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Why Bates? Who is this guy and why is he so special? I see now..............thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 If anything should sedate the Sherman lovers, it's that he wanted part ownership and/or GM duties in Buffalo. No thanks. As a fomer Sherman lover, once I found out about that, I was glad it manifested itself earlier rather than later. 583999[/snapback] First I heard of that. Where did you find that out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 What about Donnie Henderson from the Jets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 First I heard of that. Where did you find that out? I had a feeling that since Sherman was the GM and HC of the Pack, he'd want that kind of power again. And it makes sense that something happened over the weekend that made the Bills finally choose Jauron. As for part ownership, that was on ESPN or some other website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 What about Donnie Henderson from the Jets? I believe he signed with someone already. Rams, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoff Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 What about Donnie Henderson from the Jets? 584007[/snapback] Bates' son is a coach with the Jets http://www.newyorkjets.com/coaches/index.p...oaches_id=22#22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 Bates' son is a coach with the Jets http://www.newyorkjets.com/coaches/index.p...oaches_id=22#22 So were Heimerdinger and Marrone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 If anything should sedate the Sherman lovers, it's that he wanted part ownership and/or GM duties in Buffalo. 583999[/snapback] A link is requested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in VA Beach Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 A link is requested. 584022[/snapback] I think this goes back to that soprano crap and we all know how reliable that guy has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 I had a feeling that since Sherman was the GM and HC of the Pack, he'd want that kind of power again. Maybe. And it makes sense that something happened over the weekend that made the Bills finally choose Jauron.I kind of thought Ralph and Marv just kinda' thought Jauron was a better fit, personality-wise. Nothing nearly as dramatic as what you propose. As for part ownership, that was on ESPN or some other website. 584009[/snapback] It wasn't espn (I just did a search of their site). There are a lot of web sites out there, but neither NewsNow or Google News returned anything inferring that Sherman made any such demands. I'm not saying that you didn't see what you said you saw, but I am more than a little skeptical that it actually went down that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 What it comes down to for me is that there was a reason the Bills waited so long to make an announcement that Jauron was the guy, if indeed he was their guy all along (and the interviews of Lofton, Caldwell, and Capers were courtesy interviews, I believe). It just seemed like something happened on Saturday, as SOPRANO'S source (who has been batting .500) said, to make them finally go with Jauron. Maybe it's wrong I don't know (and I don't think any of us will ever know) or maybe people really DO think that Sherman was successful because of a weak division and Favre. In any case, I like the assistants the Bills have added so far, and Bates' addition would make me feel a lot better about Jaruon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMIEBUF12 Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 and bates would come here knowing sherman got snubbed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 and bates would come here knowing sherman got snubbed? And Bates should care...why? It's not like HE'S making $3.5M for doing nothing this year. And the Jets didn't even interview Sherman. Is that better than interviewing him and not giving him the job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 and bates would come here knowing sherman got snubbed? 584122[/snapback] I don't have a crystal ball, but IF Bates is offered the job, and IF he turns it down only because Sherman's personality and/or style and/or philosphy didn't mesh with those of Levy's and/or Jauron's, he's not the type of guy I'd want in Bflo anyway.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 I don't have a crystal ball, but IF Bates is offered the job, and IF he turns it down only because Sherman's personality and/or style and/or philosphy didn't mesh with those of Levy's and Jauron's, he's not the type of guy I'd want in Bflo anyway.... Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 and bates would come here knowing sherman got snubbed? 584122[/snapback] Why not? He worked for other coaches before Sherman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan III Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Also in that Clayton article Bills coach Dick Jauron got a later start than the Jets' Eric Mangini, but he's jumped to a significant lead in assembling his staff. Jauron beat out the Jets for former Rams offensive coordinator Steve Fairchild. The Bills made a great hire along their defensive line by getting Bill Kollar of the Rams. Those two moves show the advantage of having an established, longtime head coach vs. a young 34-year-old head coach. Jauron has a long history in the NFL and a great reputation for assistants. Mangini is a bright mind, but he doesn't have a long background of working with different coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 I had a feeling that since Sherman was the GM and HC of the Pack, he'd want that kind of power again. And it makes sense that something happened over the weekend that made the Bills finally choose Jauron. As for part ownership, that was on ESPN or some other website. 584009[/snapback] The only place that was ever seen was right here on TBD. Soprano said it when Jaraun got into town. As far as anyone knows, Sherman was never in the lead for the job and never negotiated anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 The only place that was ever seen was right here on TBD. Soprano said it when Jaraun got into town. As far as anyone knows, Sherman was never in the lead for the job and never negotiated anything. True and as I mentioned, likely we'll never know what happened. But I still believe that ultimately what prevented Sherman from coming to Buffalo was him wanting GM duties, since he had that in GB, and once you've tasted power, you want more. Whether he made that clear from the beginning or in an 11th hour power play, as I said we'll probably never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in VA Beach Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 A lot of folks mention that the Sheman no-deal might sway Bates. And while its impossible to say. .. Based on some of the packer fan comments on this board recently, it sounded like the two had a business relationship. I remember reading that they did not usually interact on the sidelines, at practice, or at social functions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Why Bates? Who is this guy and why is he so special?I see now..............thanks 584001[/snapback] For starters he is the best DC available. He worked wonders with a young and injured Pack D last year. Prior to that, he was the reason that Miami's defenses were so damn good all those years. After Wandstadt was fired during the 2004 season he took over as interim HC. They won 3 of their last 6 games including a HUGE win over the Patriots. Quite an accomplishment when you consider the situation the Phins were in last year. Many of the Dolphins players were lobbying for Bates to get the HC job before Saban was hired. We would be very fortunate to land him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregroland17 Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 according to wgr this morning, we made bates an offer!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiragandhi'sthong Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 That would be perect ... she could kill off another another aging man and work to take over quote=Falstaff_in_Philly,Jan 25 2006, 09:32 PM] I'm not holding my breath... Maybe we'll bring in Georgia Frontiere...we have every other old Ram 583945[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 OOOH....he's from the Belichick coaching tree! Git 'er done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjwbills Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 For starters he is the best DC available. He worked wonders with a young and injured Pack D last year. Prior to that, he was the reason that Miami's defenses were so damn good all those years. After Wandstadt was fired during the 2004 season he took over as interim HC. They won 3 of their last 6 games including a HUGE win over the Patriots. Quite an accomplishment when you consider the situation the Phins were in last year. Many of the Dolphins players were lobbying for Bates to get the HC job before Saban was hired. We would be very fortunate to land him. 584267[/snapback] Top 10 defense every year of the 10 yrs he's coordinated an NFL team. What other coordinator in the league has that accolade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Rimshot please 583984[/snapback] That is wrong for so many reasons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obie_wan Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 I believe he signed with someone already. Rams, maybe. 584010[/snapback] Haslet signed with the Rams as DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyebrian Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 At her age, I don't know how much of a "Tight End" she'd be. 583968[/snapback] More like a "wide receiver" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Anyone notice that Bates' son is the QB coach for the Jets? Jeremy Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinesc Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 What about Donnie Henderson from the Jets? 584007[/snapback] He signed with Detroit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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