stuckincincy Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 It seems a lot of these networks go as far as they can stretching these stories using the words "could" or "might". 421962[/snapback] They merely serve up what an audience addicted to the likes of "American Idol" or "Survivior" or "Jimmy Kimmel" demands... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTS Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 We just got word from our CEO that our offices in downtown New Orleans "have been basically destroyed". Our offices are described as a first-class, high rise complex. That doesn't sound good for lower quality buildings in the area. Our colleagues, thankfully, are all safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 That probably looks a lot worse than it actually is. My point was that the steel girdwork is still standing; it's the canvas and sheeting that's gone. The reports were that part of the roof was "blown off." The reactionaries were essentially saying that when half of the shingles blow off, a roof is utterly, utterly destroyed, even tho the beams are still standing. 421814[/snapback] If you're talking about frame construction, when half the shingles are gone a roof pretty much IS destroyed. I'd wager the standard is different for the Superdome... Plus...who among us knows how the roof on the Superdome is constructed, really? I've heard three different descriptions of its construction now. So who's to say the roof is or isn't structurally compromised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I've heard the odd report about a western breach - the Mississipi river side. But who knows? 421957[/snapback] Supposedly 40k houses are flooded just east of New Orleans proper. They didn't define "flooded", though...and that number keeps changing from 5k to 40k to 10k... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Supposedly 40k houses are flooded just east of New Orleans proper. They didn't define "flooded", though...and that number keeps changing from 5k to 40k to 10k... 421974[/snapback] Tomorrow may well be appalling. A tremendous bunch of energy hit the Gulf states ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reuben Gant Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 (edited) When a roof is missing a third or half of its shingles, there is a good chance of major damage. With no power, there is no air conditioning. Moist + hot = mold. Edit: not that I am worried about the Superdome getting mold. I was referring to peoples houses. Edited August 29, 2005 by Reuben Gant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Plus...who among us knows how the roof on the Superdome is constructed, really? I've heard three different descriptions of its construction now. So who's to say the roof is or isn't structurally compromised? 421970[/snapback] It looks like this site would probably contain the info you are looking for, but it is either no longer available or is temporarily down(maybe it is hosted in New Orleans). http://www.superdome.com/site.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I wonder if the peoples of the world will send all kinds of money, aid supplies, and other such help to the U.S. I guess when you're the "world's lone superpower" everyone else is quick to feed at the trough of our kindness, but when the tables are turned.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 If you're talking about frame construction, when half the shingles are gone a roof pretty much IS destroyed. I'd wager the standard is different for the Superdome... Plus...who among us knows how the roof on the Superdome is constructed, really? I've heard three different descriptions of its construction now. So who's to say the roof is or isn't structurally compromised? 421970[/snapback] You aren't going by the AP stylebook and dictionary definition of "destroyed." Destroyed means pretty much nothing is left standing. The WTC was destroyed. The Superdome's roof was damaged. The steel gridding is still standing; on the face, it does look pretty bad in that section, but who knows. They may just need new canvasing (probably not, tho). The engineers will do the postmortem of how it held up and what to do going forward. The language they used to describe the damage, especially "blown off" in the commonly used lexicon (which conjures images of an entire roof, framework, trusses and plywood in the next county over), was craptacular, as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I wonder if the peoples of the world will send all kinds of money, aid supplies, and other such help to the U.S. I guess when you're the "world's lone superpower" everyone else is quick to feed at the trough of our kindness, but when the tables are turned.... 421988[/snapback] The nation of Bengladesh always does. It's not much, of course, but they appreciate what we have done for them. They also contribute troops if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiew Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I'm thinking that Mississippi will be reporting more damage than New Orleans will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I wonder if the peoples of the world will send all kinds of money, aid supplies, and other such help to the U.S. I guess when you're the "world's lone superpower" everyone else is quick to feed at the trough of our kindness, but when the tables are turned.... 421988[/snapback] sad but true. I would love to see some the USAs benevolence rewarded but am not holding my breath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I wonder if the peoples of the world will send all kinds of money, aid supplies, and other such help to the U.S. I guess when you're the "world's lone superpower" everyone else is quick to feed at the trough of our kindness, but when the tables are turned.... 421988[/snapback] No need to wonder; they won't. I'm more interested if any of our celebrities will be helping to raise money/donate money to help rebuild the hard hit areas or if they save those notions for concerts where the cameras are rolling. Watching the MTV awards last night, Green Day was still congratulating themselves for participating in Live8... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I'm thinking that Mississippi will be reporting more damage than New Orleans will. 422006[/snapback] There is expected flooding up through the Mississippi, Ohio, and Tennessee river valleys coming up in the next day or two. I've been preparing for several inches of rain...but truthfully our agriculture needs the moisture. Sadly, the Gulf states will get that wash running down their way eventually and may get a bad round of flooding after the hurricane has moved north... I expect a lot of commodity food prices to rise; the south is such a large producer of foodstuffs. I'd guess the cotton crop will be devestated, too. Plus what Katrina did to Fla. crops and flower nurseries...Yike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegtapr Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I'm thinking that Mississippi will be reporting more damage than New Orleans will. 422006[/snapback] Sadly, I think that the media focus on N.O. may have caused many people in Miss. to not take the precautions they should have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Sadly, I think that the media focus on N.O. may have caused many people in Miss. to not take the precautions they should have. 422056[/snapback] You're right. My brother in law was suppose to close on his house he sold up there tomorrow. I wonder whats left of it, it was just outside of Hattisburg, right where the eye went over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Sadly, I think that the media focus on N.O. may have caused many people in Miss. to not take the precautions they should have. 422056[/snapback] I have driven thru rural Mississippi and Alabama and they are so impoverished. Very sad. Run down trailer homes which are not meant to withstand storms. May Katrina be merciful to those she has yet to visit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 We just got word from our CEO that our offices in downtown New Orleans "have been basically destroyed". Our offices are described as a first-class, high rise complex. That doesn't sound good for lower quality buildings in the area. Our colleagues, thankfully, are all safe. 421968[/snapback] Hey now is the chance to convince them to build in Buffalo... it's got to be the cheapest place ever to build an office. No disasters either. Probably can pay the work force 2/3 of most other cities, the cost of living is so low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 You aren't going by the AP stylebook and dictionary definition of "destroyed." Destroyed means pretty much nothing is left standing. The WTC was destroyed. The Superdome's roof was damaged. The steel gridding is still standing; on the face, it does look pretty bad in that section, but who knows. They may just need new canvasing (probably not, tho). The engineers will do the postmortem of how it held up and what to do going forward. No, I'm not. I'm going by the practical definition of "destroyed" as "beyond recovery, thus requiring total removal and rebuilding from scratch". And I have no friggin' problem with that, either. The language they used to describe the damage, especially "blown off" in the commonly used lexicon (which conjures images of an entire roof, framework, trusses and plywood in the next county over), was craptacular, as usual. 421994[/snapback] Yes, it was. But then, this is the media - specifically, Fox. It usually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I'm thinking that Mississippi will be reporting more damage than New Orleans will. 422006[/snapback] Probably. Last report I heard, Gulfport was getting hammerred. "Complete devastation" was the phrase that was used to describe it. And of course, they wouldn't exaggerate at all... Still, Gulfport was in a bad position after the storm shifted east. "Complete devastation" it probably isn't, but I wouldn't be surprised if the city was substantially wrecked. Apparently the coastal casinos suffererd badly early... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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