Greg Rousseau has turned out to be a complete slug.

[Avisan]

13 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

i listed it because you conveniently left out Mills 2/0😂😂

 

look, i get your perspective- that this limited offense led by allen should be scoring 25+ w zero turnovers on the best defense in the league or they've failed. and defensively as long as we play well for one half, mission accomplished

The defense played well overall when looking at the full game.  Last time I checked, the game doesn't end at halftime.

 

I would generally hope for more than 12 points from our offense, yes.  We can call it 16 due to the missed XP and passing up the shorter field goal, but would ding them for short-field turnovers that led to 6 points for the other team.

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, Avisan said:

The defense played well overall when looking at the full game.  Last time I checked, the game doesn't end at halftime.

 

I would generally hope for more than 12 points from our offense, yes.  We can call it 16 due to the missed XP and passing up the shorter field goal, but would ding them for short-field turnovers that led to 6 points for the other team.

there you go

[Avisan]

7 minutes ago, billsfan714 said:

Think I saw a stat that was the lowest pressure rate allowed by the Texans OL in about 2 years.

Our defensive line has a lot of injuries.  Sefense still shut down the passing game for the most part.

[FireChans]

22 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

i listed it because you conveniently left out Mills 2/0😂😂

 

look, i get your perspective- that this limited offense led by allen should be scoring 25+ w zero turnovers on the best defense in the league or they've failed. and defensively as long as we play well for one half, mission accomplished

they have to play well for one half after spotting a backup QB 20 points.

 

And listen. You get that entire sweet deal and all you have to do is hand out a bunch of $80M deals on defense and draft exclusively a million defensive players every season. 

Edited 1 hour ago by FireChans

[GoBills808]

Just now, FireChans said:

they have to play well for one half after spotting a backup QB 20 points.

 

And listen. You get that entire sweet deal and all you have to do is hand out a bunch of $80M deals on defense and draft exclusively a million defensive players every season. 

look at his perspective

 

this is the true genius of mcdermott and beane. look at how this defensive HC has conditioned our fanbase

[BADOLBILZ]

10 minutes ago, billsfan714 said:

Think I saw a stat that was the lowest pressure rate allowed by the Texans OL in about 2 years.

 

 

It's probably the first time the Texans OL has faced DT's lining up on the edge as well.

 

I can't remember the last time the Bills couldn't even FIELD enough DE's to play a game.  But that's been their reality lately.

 

The Bills defensive front is not competitive with only Groot playing effectively in an 8-9 man rotation.  

[Avisan]

5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

look at his perspective

 

this is the true genius of mcdermott and beane. look at how this defensive HC has conditioned our fanbase

The Bills have an average defensive unit, I wish it were better (and it very likely would be if remotely healthy) but it is what it is

 

And what it is is average, not terrible

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, Avisan said:

The Bills have an average defensive unit, I wish it were better (and it very likely would be if remotely healthy) but it is what it is

 

And what it is is average, not terrible

enough w the injuries excuses lol. this is pro football. every team has injuries

 

an average unit performing average-ly vs a bad offense is not something to crow about

 

 

[Avisan]

3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

enough w the injuries excuses lol. this is pro football. every team has injuries

 

an average unit performing average-ly vs a bad offense is not something to crow about

 

 

Our average defense posted an above-average performance versus a below-average offense, which is what one would expect.  It hit par.

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, Avisan said:

Our average defense posted an above-average performance versus a below-average offense, which is what one would expect.  It hit par.

 

ok

 

'above average' lol

 

just agree to disagree

 

[Gunsgoodtime]

13 minutes ago, Avisan said:

The Bills have an average defensive unit, I wish it were better (and it very likely would be if remotely healthy) but it is what it is

 

And what it is is average, not terrible

Average?  They rank almost dead last in the run.  You seriously think this defense is average?  Wow

[EmotionallyUnstable]

18 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

I can't remember the last time the Bills couldn't even FIELD enough DE's to play a game.  But that's been their reality lately.

Listen, I knew Solomon was an incapable player on early downs at the edge. But I did NOT know his own coaching staff thinks he’s “start-a-defensive-tackle-out-of-position- instead” bad. 
 

That is quite the statement.

13 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

something to crow about

I don’t think anyone is boasting, per se, just stating that they did enough to win the football game. 

[Avisan]

5 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

Average?  They rank almost dead last in the run.  You seriously think this defense is average?  Wow

Yes?  It's bad against the run, if it weren't it would be good.  By the numbers it's an average overall defense.

11 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

 

ok

 

'above average' lol

 

just agree to disagree

 

We held them well below their average offensive yardage and only gave up one point above their average points scored due to two drives starting in field goal range that ended in field goals.  I don't know what else you would call it.

 

I get that you're mad, and stats don't matter when you're mad, but that doesn't mean they stop existing.

[GoBills808]

8 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Listen, I knew Solomon was an incapable player on early downs at the edge. But I did NOT know his own coaching staff thinks he’s “start-a-defensive-tackle-out-of-position- instead” bad. 
 

That is quite the statement.

I don’t think anyone is boasting, per se, just stating that they did enough to win the football game. 

They quite clearly did not

[EmotionallyUnstable]

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

They quite clearly did not

Were you expecting zero points against? 

[GoBills808]

4 minutes ago, Avisan said:

Yes?  It's bad against the run, if it weren't it would be good.  By the numbers it's an average overall defense.

We held them well below their average offensive yardage and only gave up one point above their average points scored due to two drives starting in field goal range that ended in field goals.  I don't know what else you would call it.

 

I get that you're mad, and stats don't matter when you're mad, but that doesn't mean they stop existing.

Yup 

 

Held em to average w their backup QB

 

Youre right. An admirable performance😂😂

Just now, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Were you expecting zero points against? 

would have loved fewer than 20

[BADOLBILZ]

4 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Listen, I knew Solomon was an incapable player on early downs at the edge. But I did NOT know his own coaching staff thinks he’s “start-a-defensive-tackle-out-of-position- instead” bad. 
 

That is quite the statement.

I don’t think anyone is boasting, per se, just stating that they did enough to win the football game. 

 

Yeah Solomon has been unplayable.   I questioned his fit at draft time but am surprised that he is this bad.  

 

I was very bummed when the Bills traded that 4th rounder to Chicago with Austin Booker on the board and THEN picked Solomon in the 5th.  Booker was basically the Bills prototype DE.  Booker hasn't set the world afire yet but he is a good player with a very high ceiling.  

 

You could argue that they wouldn't have Deone Walker if they hadn't made that trade but if Beane doesn't inexplicably trade that Diggs second rounder just to move up in rounds 2 and 3 last spring he probably gets his man Walker later in round 3 anyway.  

 

Solomon has been a net negative.   Hopefully some kind of light goes on for him......on the hoof he shouldn't be the second-worst graded edge in the NFL.........but his first two seasons he's been trash.

[quincy]

13 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Listen, I knew Solomon was an incapable player on early downs at the edge. But I did NOT know his own coaching staff thinks he’s “start-a-defensive-tackle-out-of-position- instead” bad. 
 

 

 

Wow it looks like Morgan Fox might be needed at Pittsburgh - not good if Solomon is veering into ST only territory. 

[Avisan]

5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Yup 

 

Held em to average w their backup QB

 

Youre right. An admirable performance😂😂

would have loved fewer than 20

The defense gave up fewer than 20, fam.  The offense gifted 6.  It's frankly concerning at this point that you aren't able to process that.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

would have loved fewer than 20

If they held them to 19, they still would have lost without that flukey KOR. It that were the case and we went down 19-12, I think people would still be angry about the defense. In the same way you reference that McD has groomed fans to accept his defensive struggles, a section of fans will never rationally accept rational defense imperfection. Regardless, the offense was much bigger and continues to be a much bigger problem for this team Imo