JBI$111 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 4 hours ago, TheBrownBear said: If true, what an enormous whiff by Beane. Basically set the offense back a year. A year? Try most of his first round picks have been whiffs (and many others) and setback this franchise not just a year, but many years! 4 hours ago, Nuncha said: He stays. You know why? He didn't whiff on Josh Allen and many others. He pulled this team out of the bottom of the abyss. 17 seasons no post season before he got here. Josh Allen was by no means a sure thing and to a large degree, Beane got somewhat lucky. His draft record overall is horrendous along with all his bad free agency picks and contracts. He has wasted so much precious draft capital that we've acquired over the years that he needs to stay far away from picking players. Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 42 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Bean misses and then double downs on it. Gets Coleman, and then declares are awful WR room somehow good to go this season. Terrible job by Bean all around. We're not discussing his appearance on WGR or how he's fumbled the WR Room. That's been covered to death and we all know his failures there. We're discussing him having too many 1st and 2nd Round Busts in his tenure and the fact is that it's not any higher than most teams in the league. 1 hour ago, LEBills said: Yea everyone misses on picks to a degree. The GM that draft Phidarian Mathis is no longer a GM. Basically the only GM that has been tenured longer than him that hasn’t at least made a Super Bowl is Chris Ballard with the Colts. Even acknowledging everyone has their whiffs, what picks he has had that have had success have not been significant enough to counteract the misses and get us where we need to go. Not every 1st and 2nd Round Pick is created equal. We haven't had a Top 10 selection since 2018 and 2019. Since then we've picked in the 23-30 range and twice didn't have a pick in the 1st Round. Most years we're picking outside of the range of how many "1st Round Grade" prospects are available in the Draft, regardless of the rhetoric he likes to give of "we got the last player we had a 1st Round Grade on" rhetoric he likes to give on an almost yearly basis. Most of those players you say that aren't giving enough impact are very good return for where they're selected. AJ Epenesa, for example, is often talked about as a bust. But compare him to other 2nd Round DE's over the past 15 years who were taken in Round 2, let alone at the bottom of Round 2 and he looks pretty damn good. Edited 1 hour ago by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote
Perk71 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Coleman was supposedly Allen's guy...🤷♀️ Go Bills!! Quote
BeastMaster Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Beane has butchered the WR position possibly worse than probably any GM in history. Add to it that he has a generational QB and it makes it even more of a disaster Diggs contract extension with him being traded the next offseason Following up with the Samuel contract and Coleman while failing to trade up and secure any of the top guys that are producing Failing to draft anyone meaningful at the position last offseason and then blowing up at radio hosts when they call you out on it Watching Hollins walk and then signing a Chargers cast off with a whopping one TD last season to another big contract This guy has failed the Bills and Josh Allen massively. With the money we have tied up in these wideouts, we could've paid an actual playmaker and would likely be an offense that could not be stopped 1 1 Quote
LEBills Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 38 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: We're not discussing his appearance on WGR or how he's fumbled the WR Room. That's been covered to death and we all know his failures there. We're discussing him having too many 1st and 2nd Round Busts in his tenure and the fact is that it's not any higher than most teams in the league. Not every 1st and 2nd Round Pick is created equal. We haven't had a Top 10 selection since 2018 and 2019. Since then we've picked in the 23-30 range and twice didn't have a pick in the 1st Round. Most years we're picking outside of the range of how many "1st Round Grade" prospects are available in the Draft, regardless of the rhetoric he likes to give of "we got the last player we had a 1st Round Grade on" rhetoric he likes to give on an almost yearly basis. Most of those players you say that aren't giving enough impact are very good return for where they're selected. AJ Epenesa, for example, is often talked about as a bust. But compare him to other 2nd Round DE's over the past 15 years who were taken in Round 2, let alone at the bottom of Round 2 and he looks pretty damn good. Beane hasn’t fumbled every pick, but he hasn’t done well enough. I don’t really care about where we draft, there are good players that go outside the first round every year. The Chiefs dynasty is in part because they found two hall of famers in Kelce and Chris Jones outside of the first round (prior GM but still under Andy). Not to mention Tyreek. Using AJ as an example really isn’t bolstering your point. Yea he is fine for where he is drafted (0 sacks in 12 playoff games lollll) but in such a competitive league nailing 5 fine players is not getting you over the hump as we have seen. The proof is in the playoff exits. Beane (and the Colts GM) stick out as GMs that have had their job for a long time without the results. Quote
Dr.Sack Posted 54 minutes ago Posted 54 minutes ago The game tomorrow vs TB is being played in 20 mph winds. All this focus on WR seems a bit misplaced given the winner is likely the team who has the most rushing yards. Quote
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