Who do we want, who do we need as our next OC/DC?

[The Jokeman]

6 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

As others have said 

 

Mike McDaniel 

Alex Tanney

Mike Kaufka

 

Bills need to transition to a WC offense for the 2nd half of Josh's career and move away from EP

 

Defense is a lost cause because McDermott will micromanage whoever is DC and no competent DC will want to work with that. It will be an internal hire only

Study up on the WCO. It's a timing offense and it's kinda what we want Josh to do now and many will tell you that's not letting Josh be Josh.

[Sierra Foothills]

5 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

All I know is I want Brian Flores as our next HC.  He was the best HC Miami had since Shula who got more out of his rosters than most do.  Pair him with an innovative OC and pick his DC. He got such a raw deal in Miami its stunning he isn't a HC again already.  

 

I would also be open to BB and Josh McDaniels combo - not sure McDaniels leaves NE for anyone but BB at this point, if he would even do that given the upstart Pats and young stud QB.  

 

If nothing else, it would be very entertaining to watch Belichick and Vrabel coaching against each other in the AFC East.

 

[Sierra Foothills]

15 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Marcus Brady was a hot name a few years ago. Kinda gone sideways for him since.

 

In what way had Marcus Brady's stock diminished?

 

Before the spate of significant injuries, the Chargers' offense and Justin Herbert were playing very well.

 

15 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

I liked Waldron as a candidate last time based on his work with Geno in Seattle. But it was an unmitigated disaster in Chicago. With a QB who doesn't play a traditional drop back pocket game. Now obviously Josh >>>>>>>> Caleb. But I think he is off my list for now.

 

Whatever happened to the Bears under Matt Eberflus, I don't think you can blame Waldron.

 

The Bears were 4-5 when he was fired and went 1-7 the rest of the way.

 

In the case of both of these coaches, I think you have to look beyond any perceived blemishes and drill down to find their true value.

 

[BB2004]

Might not be popular, but if Zac Taylor gets fired he would be a good candidate.

[Sierra Foothills]

3 hours ago, BB2004 said:

Might not be popular, but if Zac Taylor gets fired he would be a good candidate.

 

I respected his actions in the Damar Hamlin game when he agreed to call the game with his team leading, 7-3.

 

There's no good reason not to like Taylor that I can think of.

 

[JohnNord]

On 11/15/2025 at 3:06 PM, st pete gogolak said:

If either Mike McDaniel or Kevin Stefanski is fired during the offseason, I would be thrilled with either as OC.

 

For DC, it’s got to be someone from outside the organization.  Maybe Stefanski can bring Schwartz along.

 

if you want to play some real 3D chess, fire McDermott and hire Josh McDaniel. It gives Josh Allen a real OC and sets NE back.

This idea is horrendous JMD is a terrible terrible no good awful head coach at both stops he’s ever been in.

[NeverOutNick]

I hate seeing this thread title. Wish it would get merged. Any part of McBeane not taking the fall, FINALLY for a season we should’ve been the 1 seed I want no part of. But hey they got Brandin Cooks! 

[somnus00]

11 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

lol can we please stop w this

 

if the FO went to Allen and said they were considering Slobodan Milosevic for OC he'd be right on board

I hope not. Serbia had a horrible offense. 

[GunnerBill]

10 hours ago, nosejob said:

Idk, he couldn't get along with Wink Martindale....Wink was showing him up?

 

If the Bills are hiring a new Head Coach to maximise Josh I think it is possible. It isn't what I'd do to be clear, but I don't think it is impossible.

[GunnerBill]

8 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

In what way had Marcus Brady's stock diminished?

 

Before the spate of significant injuries, the Chargers' offense and Justin Herbert were playing very well.

 

 

Whatever happened to the Bears under Matt Eberflus, I don't think you can blame Waldron.

 

The Bears were 4-5 when he was fired and went 1-7 the rest of the way.

 

In the case of both of these coaches, I think you have to look beyond any perceived blemishes and drill down to find their true value.

 

 

On Brady, he was fired after less than two years as the Colts OC. Then the Chargers offense the last two years is hardly a passing juggernaut. 

 

As for Waldron.... I mean I think you can blame him for the offense. He really struggled to design a scheme for a QB who didn't want to play entirely from the pocket. And he had weapons. As I said I thought they should have interviewed him when they hired Joe as their permanent guy. But he wouldn't be on my interview list now if we had a vacancy.

 

[gjv]

BobbyPetrino and Rob Ryan 

[Sierra Foothills]

15 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

In what way had Marcus Brady's stock diminished? Before the spate of significant injuries, the Chargers' offense and Justin Herbert were playing very well.

 

Whatever happened to the Bears under Matt Eberflus, I don't think you can blame Waldron. The Bears were 4-5 when he was fired and went 1-7 the rest of the way. In the case of both of these coaches, I think you have to look beyond any perceived blemishes and drill down to find their true value.

 

6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

On Brady, he was fired after less than two years as the Colts OC. Then the Chargers offense the last two years is hardly a passing juggernaut. 

 

As for Waldron.... I mean I think you can blame him for the offense. He really struggled to design a scheme for a QB who didn't want to play entirely from the pocket. And he had weapons. As I said I thought they should have interviewed him when they hired Joe as their permanent guy. But he wouldn't be on my interview list now if we had a vacancy.

 

In fairness both the 2024 Bears and the 2022 Colts were "sinking ship seasons." Eberflus was a complete failure as a HC as was Frank Reich in Indy. As with Waldron and the Bears, the Indy team that Marcus Brady coached got significantly worse after he left. Reich fired Brady days before he got the axe himself and the 3-5-1 Colts went 1-8 the rest of the way.

 

Track records are a funny thing... many of the hot names that get hired catch lightning in a bottle or were in the right place at the right time. I call it "built by association" (as opposed to guilt by association). If you're in the league long enough your gonna accumulate some blemishes... the shine comes off but that doesn't mean that the shiny, new objects are better.

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Sierra Foothills

[GunnerBill]

46 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

 

In fairness both the 2024 Bears and the 2022 Colts were "sinking ship seasons." Eberflus was a complete failure as a HC as was Frank Reich in Indy. As with Waldron and the Bears, the Indy team that Marcus Brady coached got significantly worse after he left. Reich fired Brady days before he got the axe himself and the 3-5-1 Colts went 1-8 the rest of the way.

 

Track records are a funny thing... many of the hot names that get hired catch lightning in a bottle or were in the right place at the right time. I call it "built by association" (as opposed to guilt by association). If you're in the league long enough your gonna accumulate some blemishes... the shine comes off but that doesn't mean that the shiny, new objects are better.

 

 

The boldes us exactly how I feel about Joe Brady though. If I am moving on at OC it has to be for a proven upgrade. Waldron and Marcus Brady are not that. I'd take Joe Brady over both.

[Sierra Foothills]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

The boldes us exactly how I feel about Joe Brady though. If I am moving on at OC it has to be for a proven upgrade. Waldron and Marcus Brady are not that. I'd take Joe Brady over both.

 

 

Joe Brady was the bright, shiny object with no track record... 5 NFL seasons. Marcus Brady 8 NFL seasons, Waldron 16 NFL seasons.

 

I would take guys with more experience than a guy still living off his "built by association" with Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, and Justin Jefferson.

 

JMO.

 

[GunnerBill]

28 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

 

Joe Brady was the bright, shiny object with no track record... 5 NFL seasons. Marcus Brady 8 NFL seasons, Waldron 16 NFL seasons.

 

I would take guys with more experience than a guy still living off his "built by association" with Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, and Justin Jefferson.

 

JMO.

 

 

Yea, I very strongly disagree. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

For OC, might as well see if 'NoHo Hank' from 'Barry' is available.  His schemes seem about as well thought out and successful as Brady's. 🤨

[stlbills13]

Give me someone from the Rams. 

[GoBills808]

20 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

Study up on the WCO. It's a timing offense and it's kinda what we want Josh to do now and many will tell you that's not letting Josh be Josh.

lol in what way is the west coast offense a 'timing' offense more than any other system? because the routes are typically shorter? 

[The Jokeman]

53 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

lol in what way is the west coast offense a 'timing' offense more than any other system? because the routes are typically shorter? 

Daboll's offense was based on the Air Coryell system, here's a video to help you understand better.

 

 

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, The Jokeman said:

Daboll's offense was based on the Air Coryell system, here's a video to help you understand better.

 

 

lol don't just post a video. give me your thoughts. 

what about the west coast offense makes it more 'timing' based than other systems?