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9 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

This bills team also reminds me a lot of that 23 Chiefs team... 

 

Aside from being an elite team that’s struggling a bit at mid season I don’t see any other similarities at all. 

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1 hour ago, 90sBills said:

 

Aside from being an elite team that’s struggling a bit at mid season I don’t see any other similarities at all. 

 

I mean 1-2 plays in these playoff games and the QBs are basically identical....

 

KC in 23 also had wr issues and were te centric. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

I mean 1-2 plays in these playoff games and the QBs are basically identical....

 

KC in 23 also had wr issues and were te centric. 

 

 


 

Sure on the surface it may seem that way. But KC was defending champs that year. Even though they struggled during the regular season they had that championship experience to draw from.

 

The Bills have had playoff failures year after year. They don’t have a reservoir of playoff success to draw from. Now add on regular season struggles and it’s hard to imagine they’re thinking everything would be fine come playoff time. 

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1 hour ago, 90sBills said:


 

Sure on the surface it may seem that way. But KC was defending champs that year. Even though they struggled during the regular season they had that championship experience to draw from.

 

The Bills have had playoff failures year after year. They don’t have a reservoir of playoff success to draw from. Now add on regular season struggles and it’s hard to imagine they’re thinking everything would be fine come playoff time. 

 

Beating the same dynasty 5 years in a row, then Losing by literally 1-2 plays for basically 4 of the 5 years to the same team that's a dynasty means KC has more accomplishments. It doesn't mean they're better. If anything its about luck when it's that close 

 

I understand it's frustrating but that's just the truth.

 

Sometimes things just don't go your way. It doesn't mean things are wrong or a team in sports isn't great. 

 

If anything that's why so many people are frustrated. Because the team is great and has proven to be great in many moments they just don't have the trophy....

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On 11/14/2025 at 9:19 PM, Mike in Horseheads said:

Well, this is a new one. They should not have lost to the Falcons and Dolphins period.


It sucks as we squandered the opportunity to beat 8-1 and in striking distance of the Pats when we would beat them and the Ravens at full strength beat them the next week.

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On 11/14/2025 at 7:59 PM, transplantbillsfan said:

I got to thinking about this because I was thinking ahead to the Patriots game when we play a division rival coming off their bye... which sucks.

 

We also played the Falcons coming off their bye.  We know how that went.

 

We also played another division rival in the Dolphins coming off a Thursday night game with an extra 4 days of rest.

 

And ya know what, we're going to play another big conference game against the Bengals where they're coming off a Thanksgiving Thursday Night Football game.

 

Yes, the Bills benefitted from the bye week coming in to play the lowly Panthers and a Saints team we got extra rest for after a TNF game  and will benefit from playing on TNF next week against the Steelers, but we have 2 divisional road games this year where we are scheduled with a rest disadvantage.  

 

All rest disadvantages against conference opponents except the Steelers.

 

 

By itself, I wouldn't really cry foul, but the Bills are -7 in rest disadvantage days for the whole season.  The next closest AFC teams even remotely contending for an AFC playoff spot are the Steelers and Browns both at -4 followed by the Texans at -2.  All the other AFC contenders for the playoffs have a rest advantage with the Jags (if we wanna call them a contender) at +1, the Chiefs and Patriots at +2, the Bengals and Colts at +3 and the Ravens and Chargers at +5.

 

Those are just the contenders for playoffs in the AFC.  To show the disparity in rest advantages, there's a 32 day difference from the team with the greatest rest advantage in the Lions at +13 to the team with the biggest rest disadvantage in the Raiders at -19.

 

And yes... gotta go out and win the games you play... but I guarantee statistically it's significantly more advantageous to play a team with a rest advantage rather than a rest disadvantage.  You would really think in a league that touts its own parity, they would really be trying to make the schedule a little more equal than a 32 day rest disparity from top to bottom.

 

I've always felt that rest advantage is way more important than a lot of people give it credit. That's why it's always one of the first things I look at when the schedule comes out. 

 

Unfortunately, the Bills seem to ALWAYS get negative rest advantages, and when they get the advantage in a week-to-week basis, it seems like it never matters, just like you listed this week. 

 

I'm honestly REALLY tempted to go and try and do a study in order to see just how much of a factor rest advantage actually plays.

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Since division games are the most important, I don't see a reason not to do bye weeks by division, and everyone plays a division game off the bye with equal rest. But the NFL gives zero ****'s about fairness. Only $$$

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4 minutes ago, KHAN said:

Since division games are the most important, I don't see a reason not to do bye weeks by division, and everyone plays a division game off the bye with equal rest. But the NFL gives zero ****'s about fairness. Only $$$

I remember when bye weeks were first a thing that’s how they did them, by division. I don’t remember if they played a division game coming out of the bye though 

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5 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

Beating the same dynasty 5 years in a row, then Losing by literally 1-2 plays for basically 4 of the 5 years to the same team that's a dynasty means KC has more accomplishments. It doesn't mean they're better. If anything its about luck when it's that close 

 

I understand it's frustrating but that's just the truth.

 

Sometimes things just don't go your way. It doesn't mean things are wrong or a team in sports isn't great. 

 

If anything that's why so many people are frustrated. Because the team is great and has proven to be great in many moments they just don't have the trophy....


What’s the truth? That KC’s run of playing in the last 5 out of 6 Super Bowl is because…luck? That’s a whole lotta luck for a long period of time. 
 

You can slice it any way you want but the bottom line is they have the trophies and experience to go along with that and Bills don’t. It doesn’t mean that the Bills aren’t a great team. My point was the Bills don’t have the playoff successes KC has. KC was able to glean from those experiences come playoff time regardless of how they played in the regular season. Bills don’t have that foundational template.
 

Just because KC overcame their struggles in ‘23 to win the Super Bowl doesn’t give me any comfort that the current Bills could do the same. I’m hoping they will but as a betting man I wouldn’t put any money it. That’s why I don’t see this current struggle as something the ‘23, or even ‘24 Chiefs, went through.
 

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23 minutes ago, 90sBills said:


What’s the truth? That KC’s run of playing in the last 5 out of 6 Super Bowl is because…luck? That’s a whole lotta luck for a long period of time. 
 

You can slice it any way you want but the bottom line is they have the trophies and experience to go along with that and Bills don’t. It doesn’t mean that the Bills aren’t a great team. My point was the Bills don’t have the playoff successes KC has. KC was able to glean from those experiences come playoff time regardless of how they played in the regular season. Bills don’t have that foundational template.
 

Just because KC overcame their struggles in ‘23 to win the Super Bowl doesn’t give me any comfort that the current Bills could do the same. I’m hoping they will but as a betting man I wouldn’t put any money it. That’s why I don’t see this current struggle as something the ‘23, or even ‘24 Chiefs, went through.
 

 

 

No I said the losses to ic in the playoffs by 1-2 plays has some luck to it. And because of that you can say KC has more accomplishments, but the teams are equal. We beat them every year 

 

Saying KC won Superbowls because of luck, as if I was saying the jets easily could've won the Superbowl like it's lottery. That's ridiculous and a silly interpretation 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

 

No I said the losses to ic in the playoffs by 1-2 plays has some luck to it. And because of that you can say KC has more accomplishments, but the teams are equal. We beat them every year 

 

Saying KC won Superbowls because of luck, as if I was saying the jets easily could've won the Superbowl like it's lottery. That's ridiculous and a silly interpretation 

 

 


The way you structured your writing would lead readers to that interpretation. As beating the Bills have led KC to Super Bowl appearances in 3 of the 4 times they faced. 
 

There’s always luck involved in any aspects of life, especially sports. However, it’s hard to make a case for the two teams being equal when one team has beaten the other team 4 times in elimination games and advanced to Super Bowls. ‘That’s ridiculous and a silly interpretation’ as some would say. 

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26 minutes ago, 90sBills said:


The way you structured your writing would lead readers to that interpretation. As beating the Bills have led KC to Super Bowl appearances in 3 of the 4 times they faced. 
 

There’s always luck involved in any aspects of life, especially sports. However, it’s hard to make a case for the two teams being equal when one team has beaten the other team 4 times in elimination games and advanced to Super Bowls. ‘That’s ridiculous and a silly interpretation’ as some would say. 

 

Buffalo has beat KC 5 yrs in a row. They're not equivalent in accomplishments. They're more or less the same team.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

Buffalo has beat KC 5 yrs in a row. They're not equivalent in accomplishments. They're more or less the same team.

 

 


5 yrs a row in the regular season. But good on you for being able to take that stance. It’s tough to conclude a team with that many SB appearances and a team with none as more or less the same team when they have played head to head for the rights to those SB appearances, imo. 

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1 hour ago, 90sBills said:


5 yrs a row in the regular season. But good on you for being able to take that stance. It’s tough to conclude a team with that many SB appearances and a team with none as more or less the same team when they have played head to head for the rights to those SB appearances, imo. 

 

The 70s raiders were just as good as the Steelers. Steelers had more trophies.

 

But I understand your point 

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