SNAP/EBT/Food Stamps

[The Frankish Reich]

 

Stable Genius Update:

 

Late last week: we would release funds to pay SNAP benefits but we don't have the legal authority to do that. If I have that authority, I would do so right away.

 

Two federal court judges: You not only have that authority, you are in fact duty-bound to release those funds to pay benefits immediately.

 

Trump in the wee hours today: I don't care, I'm not gonna do it unless the Senate Dems pass a continuing resolution.

 

Trump by lunchtime (probably after talking to his lawyers): I am releasing those funds, but I'm gonna take my time doing so. And then only half benefits.

[Pokebball]

2 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

20b to Argentina is a lot of scratch, especially right now. 

While I don't disagree, I can at least understand the economic and geopolitical rationale for this commitment to Argentina.

[Niagara Bill]

5 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I'm happy to review any of my past comments where I suggested Biden lying was an "unimaginable, even impeachable action".   I have stated, emphatically, that Biden has lied the entirety of his career in office.  And, that he's made racially insensitive statements during his time in office.  And, that he was pretty handsy with many of the ladies in his orbit.  I even recall speaking with you about that---ooops, wait, it may have been another poster, Bob in Mich.  Perhaps you know of him?  I always considered him an intelligent, left leaning thinking person. 

 

Anyway, my premise has long been that righteous indignation that Trump lies was neither righteous nor true indignation, simply that you guys like your liars from a different political party.   

 

On the issue of impeachment...probably the greatest travesty of the Biden years was raiding Trump's house, taking material unrelated to whatever investigation they were doing, and leaking selectively to the press to shape a narrative.  I assumed, correctly as it turned out, that most politicians at that level would have a fair amount of classified/top secret documents in their possession.  I also suggested part of the problem was at that level, classified/top secret seemed to be handled as  "Do whatever you want".    Still, my point of view was that these people play at the "Above the law" level, that's just the way it is.  I'd have been fine with Biden did it, Trump did it, Clinton did it....a little humble pie, a few delicious soundbites, whatever.  However, when the Biden DOJ escalates, the R party needs to respond in kind when they are in charge.   

So, if it is found that Biden and his kid received 50,000 000 illegally from a country...say Russia, then it is ok for trump and family to also a accept illegal money, or if Bidens was found to be on Epstein island with underage girls then it is ok for trump.

Be clear leh-nerd. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

3 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

 “I don’t know the man at all. I don’t think I ever met him,” Trump went on. “I have no idea who he is.

Therefore, if he’s telling the truth, he either pardoned a man he knew nothing about or an autopen did. Neither is defensible. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

So, if it is found that Biden and his kid received 50,000 000 illegally from a country...say Russia, then it is ok for trump and family to also a accept illegal money, or if Bidens was found to be on Epstein island with underage girls then it is ok for trump.

Be clear leh-nerd. 

Let’s use a real world example. Let’s say Biden’s son avoided paying his fair share of taxes, and that he violated laws regarding ownership of firearms….that sort of thing. I’d think he should be prosecuted.  At the same time,   if Trump’s son committed the same types of crimes, I’d think he should be prosecuted as well.    Now, I believe that some people are above the law, and have said that for a long time.  It’s unfortunate, it’s not fair, but it is the way it is.  
 

Let’s say thereafter, the opportunity for Joe Biden to pardon his son arises.  I don’t think he should pardon his son, but I understand he’s absolutely, positively going to do that.  If Trump was facing the same situation with his son, I believe he would do the same thing.  

 

I think lots of people, Fergie, Tibsy, Justin Trudeau, and you maybe would see the Biden situation differently than the Trump situation and support it while becoming outraged if Trump did it.  I think since it goes both ways, it’s sorta silly to get too wound up over it. 
 

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Therefore, if he’s telling the truth, he either pardoned a man he knew nothing about or an autopen did. Neither is defensible. 

You’re incorrect.  He’s The President, it’s 100% defensible.  

[SectionC3]

5 hours ago, Pokebball said:

While I don't disagree, I can at least understand the economic and geopolitical rationale for this commitment to Argentina.

I'm an open-minded guy but, objectively, I don't.  I just don't get this one.  It looks to me like Trump is playing favorites with a friendly leader.  Their worthless pesos aren't going to help with SNAP/health care here.  

[Wolfgang]

4 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

So, if it is found that Biden and his kid received 50,000 000 illegally from a country...say Russia, then it is ok for trump and family to also a accept illegal money, or if Bidens was found to be on Epstein island with underage girls then it is ok for trump.

Be clear leh-nerd. 

 

 

 

 

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

On 10/25/2025 at 6:39 AM, SCBills said:

I have to say.. I’ve never had a huge opinion one way or another on this topic. 
 

Although I’m a conservative on most things, I’m generally for a societal safety net.

 

This shutdown, and looming SNAP “crisis” has been radicalizing as to how much these programs are simply hard working taxpayers subsidizing the lives of people who don’t want to work. 
 

It should be there for those who are truly disabled, can’t work or have fallen on hard times. 
 

It’s clearly become a permanent luxury handout program for, what might be, the majority of these programs recipients. 
 

 

 

 

This is massively more complex than people simply living off the dole, and it's almost certainly going to get more complicated as we navigate the concept of what employment is, as we progress through the infantile stages of BS Intelligence replacing human effort. 
 

For instance, what exactly do you see the near-future role of middle-management being?   If I own a major company, I see 'replaceable' in their future, and not too far away. 
 

If true, do they need to learn ebonics to navigate the SNAP program?

 

Education is key.  

[Niagara Bill]

9 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Let’s use a real world example. Let’s say Biden’s son avoided paying his fair share of taxes, and that he violated laws regarding ownership of firearms….that sort of thing. I’d think he should be prosecuted.  At the same time,   if Trump’s son committed the same types of crimes, I’d think he should be prosecuted as well.    Now, I believe that some people are above the law, and have said that for a long time.  It’s unfortunate, it’s not fair, but it is the way it is.  
 

Let’s say thereafter, the opportunity for Joe Biden to pardon his son arises.  I don’t think he should pardon his son, but I understand he’s absolutely, positively going to do that.  If Trump was facing the same situation with his son, I believe he would do the same thing.  

 

I think lots of people, Fergie, Tibsy, Justin Trudeau, and you maybe would see the Biden situation differently than the Trump situation and support it while becoming outraged if Trump did it.  I think since it goes both ways, it’s sorta silly to get too wound up over it. 
 

 

 

Not true, out rage is outrage. 

I see it that if Biden was guilty so is trump for the same  crime. 

You cannot or should not ignore that Biden was 100% wrong and the people around him were 100% wrong in using autopen for pardons, keeping Biden out of the loop for what was done, Biden medical status dud nit give them the right to take on his responsibility.

The same applies to this WH. Either the people around trump take illegal liberties with the autopen and trump has no control (something that is not likely) or trump lied. 

And btw, Trudeau was a corrupt, liberal wacko, and it will take 10 years to undo the damage he did, in this country and around the world.

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

 

https://english.elpais.com/usa/2025-11-03/im-angry-with-my-president-trump-voters-in-florida-confront-the-fallout-of-his-policies-a-year-before-the-midterms.html

 

Across Florida, the disenchantment of residents, business owners, and community activists is palpable. The list of complaints includes the disruption to government aid as a result of the government shutdown, the unstoppable rise in the cost of rest, and persistent inflation. Two judges have said that the government should continue to provide food aid that was scheduled to be suspended on Nov. 1. While the government said it will comply with the rulings, the 42 million Americans who rely on the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) for food are likely to receive the benefits piece meal due to the disruption.

The consequences will be felt especially hard in Miami-Dade County, where the shift of the Latino vote from Democrat to Republican was key to Trump’s victory last year. Here, about 215,000 households (about 24%) rely on SNAP, one of the highest rates in the country. In other words, more than half a million people.

Alexis Maria, a 35-year-old single mother born in West Palm Beach who works as a doctor’s assistant, is among them. She says she voted for Trump because she thought he would be a better leader. “The last time Trump was president, I made more money than ever in my career. Prices were low. Gasoline was cheap. I remember going on vacation. Interest rates were lower. Now everything is out of control. I can’t even afford the air we breathe. Now I see that I made the wrong decision,” she says.

[IYKYK]

57 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Not true, out rage is outrage. 

I see it that if Biden was guilty so is trump for the same  crime. 

You cannot or should not ignore that Biden was 100% wrong and the people around him were 100% wrong in using autopen for pardons, keeping Biden out of the loop for what was done, Biden medical status dud nit give them the right to take on his responsibility.

The same applies to this WH. Either the people around trump take illegal liberties with the autopen and trump has no control (something that is not likely) or trump lied. 

And btw, Trudeau was a corrupt, liberal wacko, and it will take 10 years to undo the damage he did, in this country and around the world.

Funny how you think this way now. Not a peep his four years in office.

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

10 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

You’re incorrect.  He’s The President, it’s 100% defensible.  

For a toadie like you, ya 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

56 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Not true, out rage is outrage. 

I see it that if Biden was guilty so is trump for the same  crime. 

You cannot or should not ignore that Biden was 100% wrong and the people around him were 100% wrong in using autopen for pardons, keeping Biden out of the loop for what was done, Biden medical status dud nit give them the right to take on his responsibility.

The same applies to this WH. Either the people around trump take illegal liberties with the autopen and trump has no control (something that is not likely) or trump lied. 

And btw, Trudeau was a corrupt, liberal wacko, and it will take 10 years to undo the damage he did, in this country and around the world.

Years 1-10 of the Trudeau era…what did you do about it? 
 

With regard to Trump, you’re covering ground we have already covered. It’s not illegal for a President to pardon a convicted criminal.  

[Joe Ferguson forever]

14 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Years 1-10 of the Trudeau era…what did you do about it? 
 

With regard to Trump, you’re covering ground we have already covered. It’s not illegal for a President to pardon a convicted criminal.  

here you go again, deciding when an argument is over.  It's legal if he signed it himself.  It's legal if he lied about not knowing the crypto creep.  It's illegal if someone else signed without his consent.  If he lied and did it for personal gain, it's illegal.  I favor the last scenario.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

16 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

here you go again, deciding when an argument is over.  It's legal if he signed it himself.  It's legal if he lied about not knowing the crypto creep.  It's illegal if someone else signed without his consent.  If he lied and did it for personal gain, it's illegal.  I favor the last scenario.

Certainly nothing precludes you from making a sign for your next Silver Sneakers Protest and Turkey Shoot.  Beyond that, what you favor is pretty much irrelevant.  

47 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

For a toadie like you, ya 

If ignorance was criminal, you would have to register as a felonious bumpkin.
 

Say hello to the fam for me. 
 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

8 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Certainly nothing precludes you from making a sign for your next Silver Sneakers Protest and Turkey Shoot.  Beyond that, what you favor is pretty much irrelevant.  

wow.   you really destroyed me in that debate😂.  Is that your last word on it?  I hope so.  It's all you've got.

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

28 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Certainly nothing precludes you from making a sign for your next Silver Sneakers Protest and Turkey Shoot.  Beyond that, what you favor is pretty much irrelevant.  

If ignorance was criminal, you would have to register as a felonious bumpkin.
 

Say hello to the fam for me. 
 

Says the stupid idiot. 

 

 

[Niagara Bill]

2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Years 1-10 of the Trudeau era…what did you do about it? 
 

With regard to Trump, you’re covering ground we have already covered. It’s not illegal for a President to pardon a convicted criminal.  

1. It is 100% wrong and potentially illegal to lie by any politician. 

2. I voted against Trudeau every time, I donated to the opposition, I spoke to my MP numerous times (he is not liberal), but I did not storm the parliment buildings, I followed the law  I did not threaten to have a vice president killed.

This is what you do in a democracy. 

The extreme left stabs real citizens in the back with excessive taxes, supporting non citizens with the tax money and using woke to try and shame decent people. They threaten democracy from below using Trojan Horse methods.

 

But the extreme right in some countries misuse authority, and threatens democracy By ignoring historic processes and laws the extreme right disenfranchise all citizens.

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

wow.   you really destroyed me in that debate😂.  Is that your last word on it?  I hope so.  It's all you've got.

You fretting over whether or not a President has the power to pardon, then doubling down with silly conspiracy theories is not a debate. 

1 hour ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

Says the stupid idiot. 

There are times I have hope that somewhere deep inside your completely oblivious self, there is a slightly less stupid person screaming to be heard.  

 

This isn't one of those times.