SNAP/EBT/Food Stamps

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 hour ago, nedboy7 said:

Plan for 2. Going from 1000 to 1300 a month.  8k deductible.  Last year we both met our deductible.  We spent 28k on health care. Routine *****. Pretty sad for the best country in the world. 

My wife and I pay about $8k for our high ded plan ($5 K deductible), maybe another $2000-3,000 in a typical year.  We don't take much in terms of prescription drugs, hit the annual physical on an every 18 mos cycle due to schedules, doctor availabilty etc.  We're a couple years away from Medicare. 

 

I've had my issues with health insurance before on the level we need it, I can't imagine difficulties in the event of serious illness and questions about new/aggressive treatments.   

 

Still, I understand that very little happens in the world of health insurance that isn't directly controlled by government regulation.  ACA is the most recent example of that, and I'm in the camp of thinking that's going exactly as the framers of the program wanted it to go.   High cost, access more and more difficult, frustration mounting and the finger pointed at health insurance companies operating in the framework of government regulation. 

 

What would you consider a reasonable cost for health insurance for you and your wife, relative to other costs we incur? $500/month with $2500 deductible?  $750/month with $5000?  How much total out of pocket would you feel comfortable with? 

 

My opinion is that a fundamental shift in priorities is long overdue.  $2,300 per month is a lot of money, and certainly a lot for routine care what I think of woith routine care.  $2,300 a month for access to life saving treatment and care seems like a pretty good deal, especially relative to some of the other things people (myself included) spend money on.  

 

 

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

45-33 would be a nice  score for a Bills win Sunday night.  It's not a good score for trump on the shutdown.

https://thehill.com/homenews/5582193-trump-gop-blamed-shutdown/

The polling on this topic is bizarre given the GOP Congress approval, along with Trump, has gone up since the shutdown. 
 

So people blame them.. but support them at a higher clip than before the thing they blame them for?

[milfandcookies]

32 minutes ago, SCBills said:

The polling on this topic is bizarre given the GOP Congress approval, along with Trump, has gone up since the shutdown. 
 

So people blame them.. but support them at a higher clip than before the thing they blame them for?

nah nobody likes Congress 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

51 minutes ago, SCBills said:

The polling on this topic is bizarre given the GOP Congress approval, along with Trump, has gone up since the shutdown. 
 

So people blame them.. but support them at a higher clip than before the thing they blame them for?

it reflects the fear that much of the electorate has that this will adversely affect them.  It's that reality hitting them in the face. Few see this healthcare debacle as making America great again.  And so far, all the R's are offering is that they don't feel it'll be that bad.  Oz bluntly stated that the other day.  "patriotic" displays and propaganda are rarely useful when people see a quality of life issue going the wrong way.  We'll see more of it from SNAP and Medicaid cuts when the rubber meets the road.

[The Frankish Reich]

So I took a look at the law about that SNAP emergency funding bucket.

There's really no legal reason not to use it IF the Administration wants to keep funds flowing. There's more than adequate justification in doing so based on how the law is written. In fact, better justification than for things like paying active duty military.

So I must conclude that this is, of course, political.

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

it reflects the fear that much of the electorate has that this will adversely affect them.  It's that reality hitting them in the face. Few see this healthcare debacle as making America great again.  And so far, all the R's are offering is that they don't feel it'll be that bad.  Oz bluntly stated that the other day.  "patriotic" displays and propaganda are rarely useful when people see a quality of life issue going the wrong way.  We'll see more of it from SNAP and Medicaid cuts when the rubber meets the road.

So… their net approvals are going up, why?

 

Congressional ballot polling for Dems in ‘26 is shrinking, why?

 

Nothing you said addresses that.

[Wolfgang]

The SNAP/EBT will require an audit after tomorrow...

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

it reflects the fear that much of the electorate has that this will adversely affect them.  It's that reality hitting them in the face. Few see this healthcare debacle as making America great again.  And so far, all the R's are offering is that they don't feel it'll be that bad.  Oz bluntly stated that the other day.  "patriotic" displays and propaganda are rarely useful when people see a quality of life issue going the wrong way.  We'll see more of it from SNAP and Medicaid cuts when the rubber meets the road.

There is no winning solution. Spend and borrow more or impose consequences on people utilizing the program.

Reality is these programs as part of the federal budget are funded by tax receipts and an ever increasing share that's funded from borrowing. We all know it's mathematically unsustainable. And at some point the wheels fall off the bus.

But every time there's a standoff the decision is to cave in and defer the consequences by pushing them off into the future.

[Boatdrinks]

19 hours ago, unbillievable said:

If nothing else, this SNAP controversy opened my eyes to money wasted on this program. 

 

I never realized that the average benefit spends 5X more than I budget for food per month. 

Let’s not forget how SNAP usage went from around 20 million users pre Obama , then exploded to the current 44 million users after Obama eliminated the work requirements. Thats an eye opener for sure. 

On 10/30/2025 at 12:08 PM, Andy1 said:

Still waiting to see a Republican healthcare plan. And now you support SNAP.  Got it. 

Why? They’ve moved on from repeal and replace. It’s better to let the thing crash and burn on its own as was predicted at the time. If the expiration date of the ACA subsidies was so critical to Dems, why didn’t they take care of it themselves during the Biden era ? It seems they could have done this without a single Republican vote. 

[milfandcookies]

A judge just stepped in, they must use emergency funds for SNAP

[4th&long]

A MAGA Mom On SNAP Is Going Viral After She Blasted Her Family For Refusing To Lend Her Grocery Money Because Of Her Trump Vote

 

https://flip.it/tEXiw6

 

That's to bad. 

[TH3]

1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said:

Let’s not forget how SNAP usage went from around 20 million users pre Obama , then exploded to the current 44 million users after Obama eliminated the work requirements. Thats an eye opener for sure. 

Why? They’ve moved on from repeal and replace. It’s better to let the thing crash and burn on its own as was predicted at the time. If the expiration date of the ACA subsidies was so critical to Dems, why didn’t they take care of it themselves during the Biden era ? It seems they could have done this without a single Republican vote. 

So…it’s a good idea to let our HC system collapse? WTF are you even talking about? This is the level of expectation you have for our elected leaders? In what company would that idea pass a board meeting? How about we demand our government finally scrap the hodge podge s.hitshow we currently have. Our country -you - pay 2x what the rest of the civilized world pays…it’s literally bankrupting our country. Why not …you know…fix it?

Edited 2 hours ago by TH3

[Homelander]