B-Man Posted yesterday at 03:06 PM Author Posted yesterday at 03:06 PM Schumer’s Shutdown Did Not Go Well for Him. “The Chuckster doesn’t play hardball as well as some of his predecessors in Senate leadership. Over on the House side of things, Hakeem Jefferies isn’t any sharper. The Democrats rushed into this shutdown driving a clown car with no brakes.” https://pjmedia.com/stephen-kruiser/2025/11/10/the-morning-briefing-schumers-shutdown-did-not-go-well-for-him-n4945810#google_vignette .
Joe Ferguson forever Posted yesterday at 05:59 PM Posted yesterday at 05:59 PM Once again, I'm proud that Tim Kaine is my senator. Pragmatic as always, he put the ;people over politics. He realized that losing the battle is better than losing the war which continues in the midterms. 2
JDHillFan Posted yesterday at 06:41 PM Posted yesterday at 06:41 PM 39 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Once again, I'm proud that Tim Kaine is my senator. Pragmatic as always, he put the ;people over politics. He realized that losing the battle is better than losing the war which continues in the midterms. Good lord. You are so embarrassing. Both Kaine and you are assh*les. If Tim and a small handful of his buddies had put people first 7 weeks ago, millions of everyday people would not have been shat upon by their government. 1 2
Wolfgang Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 45 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: A genius gambit by the Democratic leadership... I hope to see more of this genius in the near future... 1
B-Man Posted 7 hours ago Author Posted 7 hours ago 21 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: "Sorry about all the pain we caused, I wasn't paying attention" is a hell of a position to take.
JDHillFan Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 15 minutes ago, B-Man said: "Sorry about all the pain we caused, I wasn't paying attention" is a hell of a position to take. “So proud of my guy for putting people over politics after seven weeks!” - the unaware dumbass once known as Redhawk
Wolfgang Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 35 minutes ago, B-Man said: "Sorry about all the pain we caused, I wasn't paying attention" is a hell of a position to take. Tim Cain is being modest... He did amazing work over the last month and a half... 1
boyst Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 22 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Once again, I'm proud that Tim Kaine is my senator. Pragmatic as always, he put the ;people over politics. He realized that losing the battle is better than losing the war which continues in the midterms. GoVeRn Me HaRdEr DaDdY!1! 2
Wacka Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Just by his looks, Tim Kaine screams serial killer. 1 1 1
The Frankish Reich Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Shutdowns are dumb. Glad this one is over. I have a couple flights scheduled this month and early next month and I don't need any disruptions. Both sides can pretend they "won" something. In reality, the Air Traffic Controllers are the most powerful force in America. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 hours ago, B-Man said: "Sorry about all the pain we caused, I wasn't paying attention" is a hell of a position to take. He was able to extract a Moratorium on Mischief, which was Harris-esque in scope and importance. I heard somewhere he was looking for Abeyance on Azzholery but just couldn't pull it off because the elections snuck up on him. 55 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Shutdowns are dumb. Glad this one is over. I have a couple flights scheduled this month and early next month and I don't need any disruptions. Both sides can pretend they "won" something. In reality, the Air Traffic Controllers are the most powerful force in America. At the airport, somewhere in American, an annoucement shall soon be made: HIS ROYAL NIBS....THE FRANKISH REICH, HE WHO SHAN'T BE DISRUPTED... 1
BillsFanNC Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Finding Qanon must not have its air travel disrupted! Qanon abounds!
The Frankish Reich Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: He was able to extract a Moratorium on Mischief, which was Harris-esque in scope and importance. I heard somewhere he was looking for Abeyance on Azzholery but just couldn't pull it off because the elections snuck up on him. At the airport, somewhere in American, an annoucement shall soon be made: HIS ROYAL NIBS....THE FRANKISH REICH, HE WHO SHAN'T BE DISRUPTED... You nailed it. No one cares if the National Arboretum closes. Some people care if food stamps are cut off, but they're not the people politicians care about. But eff with my Thanksgiving plans? Now we care. 1
Che Guevara Posted 39 minutes ago Posted 39 minutes ago I think that the democrats just embarrassed and discredited themselves. By caving and agreeing to reopen the government without getting any of what they were asking for as the basis of the shutdown means that the democrats just took ownership of the entire shutdown. The democratic leadership just demonstrated itself to be completely incompetent. At the time of the shutdown, I could see the binary arguments that either side was at fault. The republicans were at fault because they are in the majority, controlling the executive and legislative branches of the government. The majority party sometimes needs votes from the minority party and, hence, they sometimes have to negotiate. The shutdown was one of the times that the republicans were being asked to negotiate and they simply said no. From a minority party position, to then say, "okay don't negotiate but you can't have the votes you need," is a reasonable position to stake. To the contrary, for the republicans to say, "we need 7 (turns out 8 votes) minority party votes to stay open and minority party is saying no so they own the shutdown," is also tangibly factually and the basis for why republicans could claim that the democrats were (are) responsible for the shutdown. I can or could see how both parties could blame the other (although I personally thought one party was definitely more responsible than the other). So, for the democrats to now decide to accept an offer that was floated weeks ago, demonstrates that the democrats were never sincere in the positions they staked (at least the leadership wasn't sincere) and have now essentially taken ownership of the entire shutdown. And, after elections that just showed potentially considerably republican vulnerabilities, the democrats have just triggered a decided political turn. I think that there is a real possibility that rank and file democrats will turn on the democratic leadership in DC. On the one hand, the democrats just set themselves back politically. On the other hand, this might just be the event that triggers a tea party like uprising in the democratic party and possibly reconfigures a democratic party that is desperately in need of a massive shakeup. For example, I think that any democratic primary candidate that does not distance themselves from or doesn't demand a change in leadership (aka., removing Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries) is going to have a hard time winning their primaries. I think that rank and file democrats feel betrayed by their leadership and this betrayal may come at a big political price. Maybe? 1
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